Tue 10 Oct - A Gould Campbell vertical

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Tue 10 Oct - A Gould Campbell vertical

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Let's organise a Gould Campbell vertical, and let's invite Paul and Johnny Symington; see the discussion here about the future of the brand.

Vintages:
  1. 1927 (TC);
  2. 1934 (THRA);
  3. 1963 (AHB);
  4. 1966 (AHB);
  5. 1970 (MPM);
  6. 1975 (TC);
  7. 1977 (JDAW);
  8. 1980 bottle CPR;
  9. 1980 magnum IDJ;
  10. 1983 (SCD);
  11. 1985 (MPM);
  12. 1991 (AP);
  13. 1994 (CPR);
  14. 1997 (IDJ)).
People:
  1. Simon;
  2. Mike;
  3. IDJ;
  4. JDAW;
  5. CPR;
  6. Tom;
  7. AHB;
  8. Axel;
  9. TC;
  10. ’Dia;
  11. Phil;
  12. Dave;
  13. Ray.
Draft of the food order. To be completed.

Waitlist:
  • —None—
Current draft of the placemats.
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I'm in.

Tell me when.

I have exactly none.
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The theme appeals to my love of tradition. I may even have a bottle albeit in traditional terms I'm not sure it has reached maturity!


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Count me in too please. It would a real shame to lose GC, as from my limited experience, it has always tasted well as a 'lesser tier' shipper. One of the things I like about port, and want to learn more about...is the personalities of the different port brands/producers. My concern is that the diverse types will be los,t and there will be the strong commercial brands left and lots of white labelled generic port for the supermarkets.

But on the Gould Campbell front... I should have a 1983 which I will confirm, but also happy to contribute or adopt.

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Doggett wrote:It would a real shame to lose GC, as from my limited experience, it has always tasted well as a 'lesser tier' shipper. One of the things I like about port, and want to learn more about...is the personalities of the different port brands/producers. My concern is that the diverse types will be los,t and there will be the strong commercial brands left and lots of white labelled generic port for the supermarkets.
Very articulately put, and I think reflective of what many here feel.
Derek, perhaps you can tell Simon why tradition is unimportant and the only significant thing is the market?
And while you're at it, maybe you can tell us about Father Christmas.
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djewesbury wrote:Derek, perhaps you can tell Simon why tradition is unimportant and the only significant thing is the market?
And while you're at it, maybe you can tell us about Father Christmas.
Are we in the correct thread for that?
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DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Derek, perhaps you can tell Simon why tradition is unimportant and the only significant thing is the market?
And while you're at it, maybe you can tell us about Father Christmas.
Are we in the correct thread for that?
No. Please make sure to post your answer in the correct place. Thank you.
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I'd very much like to participate. I have 80 and 85 handy, and some 70 in storage. I thought the 80 at the port walk was very tasty indeed.
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I"m of the traditionalist persuasion but with the increasing number of SFE brands and the burgeoning BOB market, something had to give. Am I right in thinking that QH has already gone the same way? Anyhow certainly up for a vertical 'wake' . Can probably offer a '70.
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idj123 wrote:up for a vertical 'wake'
We should probably stop short of naming the tasting "Bring out your dead".
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DRT wrote:
idj123 wrote:up for a vertical 'wake'
We should probably stop short of naming the tasting "Bring out your dead".
Probably a good idea if we're inviting guests who currently own the brand.
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djewesbury wrote:
DRT wrote:
idj123 wrote:up for a vertical 'wake'
We should probably stop short of naming the tasting "Bring out your dead".
Probably a good idea if we're inviting guests who currently own the brand.
I'm glad you like yet another of my good ideas.
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DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:
DRT wrote:
idj123 wrote:up for a vertical 'wake'
We should probably stop short of naming the tasting "Bring out your dead".
Probably a good idea if we're inviting guests who currently own the brand.
I'm glad you like yet another of my good ideas.
Yes yes. I like all your ideas. We discussed this last night. Now do the washing up.
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According to a rumour, Julian wants to come and has something he believes to be GC.
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Oh, yes please, I am in. Will check cellar.
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Fabulous idea, yes please. I have 77, 83 and 94
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I like the idea and count me in, but please can we select a date.

We're hoping to get Johnny over to the UK for the Vesuvio tasting on 24 Feb. It is unrealistic for us to expect him to also be able to come over again for us within a short period so three options occur to me:
(1) We ask Rupert to the Vesuvio tasting and Johnny to the Gould Campbell tasting
(2) We ask Johnny to the Vesuvio tasting and try to tie the Gould Campbell tasting date in with the dates of an event in London which the Symingtons might be attending (such as the BFT, when that date is announced). We can try to get a conditional commitment now in order to try to prevent our chosen director(s) diary(ies) from becoming committed to a trade promotion the night before the BFT (or other event).
(3) We schedule the Gould Campbell vertical to the back end of 2016 and hope that we can persuade Johnny to come over to the UK to two TPF offlines.

I have '63 (halves or bottles), '66 (in storage so will need lots of notice), '77 (in storage - bottles or magnums), '80 (in storage), '91, '94, '03.
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I have emailed Danny asking whether the date of the BFT has been chosen.
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Starting the thread entitled [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10426]BFT, Friday 22nd April 2016[/url], jdaw1 wrote:This thread is hold plans relating to the BFT 2016, which will be on Friday 22nd April 2016.
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Who will reach out to our industry guest?
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I would be in as well. Post soon which Ports I have.

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Does Thursday 21st April work as the date for this offline?
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Thursday 21st April 2016 works for me.
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Thursday 21st works for me and I can confirm I have a bottle of the 1983 for this tasting.
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AHB wrote:Does Thursday 21st April work as the date for this offline?
Works for me. Might that be close to the BFT for 2016? Haven't seen a date yet for that.
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flash_uk wrote:Might that be close to the BFT for 2016? Haven't seen a date yet for that.
jdaw1 wrote:
Starting the thread entitled [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10426]BFT, Friday 22nd April 2016[/url], jdaw1 wrote:This thread is hold plans relating to the BFT 2016, which will be on Friday 22nd April 2016.
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I have 70, 77, 83, 85, 91, 94, 2000 and 2007

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Given Daniel's absence is this now to held at a date other than 21 April 2016?
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idj123 wrote:Given Daniel's absence is this now to held at a date other than 21 April 2016?
That would make sense. We could maybe do something a bit less structured before the BFT?
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Can't commit to the date (april 21) just yet, but would love to attend.

Pencil me in?
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Finally I can make it to another tasting of TPF on the 21st.
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I would love to attend this event

I have GC03, 94, 83, 80, 77, 75, 70, 66
I may also have 27.
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forest26 wrote:I would love to attend this event

I have GC03, 94, 83, 80, 77, 75, 70, 66
I may also have 27.
Just to confirm... This is no longer going ahead on the 21st April as Daniel cannot attend, so will be rearranged for another date. There is now another thread for a tasting on the 21st April now.
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I would be very interested to attend when there is a final date for this event. Thank you :CC3333:
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This thread seems to have gone under my radar...

Have the following vintages of GC:

1924
1934
1966
1970
1975
1977
1983
1985*
1991*
1994
2000*
2003*

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In the first post jdaw1 wrote:Vintages:
  1. 1924 (THRA);
  2. 1927 (TC?);
  3. 1934 (THRA);
  4. 1963 (AHB);
  5. 1966 (AHB, TC, THRA);
  6. 1970 (MPM, IDJ, AP, TC, THRA);
  7. 1975 (TC, THRA);
  8. 1977 (CPR, AHB, AP, TC, THRA);
  9. 1980 (MPM, AHB, TC);
  10. 1983 (SCD, CPR, AP, TC, THRA);
  11. 1985 (MPM, AP);
  12. 1991 AHB, AP);
  13. 1994 (CPR, AHB, AP, TC, THRA);
  14. 2000 (AP);
  15. 2003 (AHB, TC, JDAW believed GC);
  16. 2007 (AP).
First post edited. We need a new date. Perhaps our fearless leader could suggest dates?

Recent declarations: 1896, 1900, 1904, 1908, 1912, 1917, 1920, 1922, 1922, 1924, 1927, 1934, 1942?, 1945, 1955, 1960, 1963, 1966, 1970, 1975, 1977, 1980, 1983, 1985, 1991, 1994, 1997, 2000, 2003, and 2007.

So we are missing 1896, 1900, 1904, 1908, 1912, 1917, 1920, 1922, 1922, 1942?, 1945, 1955, 1960, 1997.
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Has anyone heard from Daniel recently? It would be nice to nudge this tasting back onto the agenda.
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do we have a date for this yet?
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Quick question. Mayson reports that Gould Campbell went to the Symingtons in 1970. Had GC previously been part of Graham? Or was that a separate deal in 1970?
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I had always thought it was a separate deal, but now that you mention it, I haven't found anywhere online the entity that sold the brand to the Symingtons.

Tellingly, there is no Wikipedia for GC, no website for GC, and no acknowledgment that the brand even exists at several Symington establishments (e.g., Dow's Bomfim Lodge, etc).

The legacy of Garret Gould deserves a modern champion. A visionary and a risk taker. A person passionate about sharing the joy of vintage port with the world.

Watch this space...
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A request for the answer has been sent to a Symington.
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We are interested in coming, depending on when it is taking place. Sten, Stefan and Jorgen
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At a small gathering last night I found myself volunteering (being volunteered?) to take on the mantle of progressing this blessed GC vertical. So the first job is to select a date and so as October (2017) was mooted last night let's plump for Monday 9 October 2017 (at the B&F-subject to availability).

Second job is to ask for reconfirmations of attendance for those that originally signed up (who will receive priority )plus confirmations from anyone else still to show their hand. At the same time as the aforementioned please once again confirm what GC you have and would be willing to provide?

Am open to views but my suggestion is that we go as deep as practicable and up to (and including) 1994.

Third job is just to ask for some support from the Administrators (JDAW?) in tidying matters up (post and link-wise) since my capabilities are sorely limited in this regard. :D
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idj123 wrote:Second job is to ask for reconfirmations of attendance for those that originally signed up (who will receive priority )plus confirmations from anyone else still to show their hand. At the same time as the aforementioned please once again confirm what GC you have and would be willing to provide?
This still applies...
DRT wrote:I'm in.
...
I have exactly none.
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B&F closes 10pm on Mondays. Is there a reason why not Tuesday?

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Yes please... I only have a 1983 to offer for this tasting if I can please.
Good work Ian!
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Good man for volunteering Ian :D :D

Still in, 9th or 10th of October both good for me. Can still offer those currently listed in the top post.
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idj123 wrote:Second job is to ask for reconfirmations of attendance for those that originally signed up (who will receive priority )plus confirmations from anyone else still to show their hand. At the same time as the aforementioned please once again confirm what GC you have and would be willing to provide?
Shows hand.

I have twice as much GC as Derek...
(i.e. also none).
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I'd like to come please. Either date in October good. I have 1980.
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jdaw1, in and re the first post, wrote:On Thu 05 Jan 2017 the poster was changed from djewesbury to idj123, to give the latter control over this post and the title of the thread. — jdaw1.
Ian: when a date is selected please edit the first post to add it to the title.
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