Thu 30 Nov 2017, Sandemans and 1970s (for the Placemat Software’s 15th anniversary)

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This post to hold arrangements as and when agreed.

When? Thursday 30th November 2017.

Where? TBD.

Who?
  1. JDAW (S70 mag?);
  2. SCD (W70);
  3. MPM;
  4. TC;
  5. AHB (F70?);
  6. CPR (S77);
  7. DRT (Cr70);
  8. DJ;
  9. CD;
  10. IDJ;
  11. RLC;
  12. WPS (S66).
Theme: a reprise of the first tasting at which there were placemats made by the software (at which were Warre 1970, Fonseca 1970, Croft 1970, Sandeman 1970 single and magnum, Sandeman 1960, and Sandeman 1977).

Reserves and possibles: Current draft of the placemats.
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Thursday 30th November 2017, Sandemans and 1970s: who is in?
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Sounds good to me, count me in.
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Please count me in too Julian. I have a Warre 70 to contribute at this stage.

Never to be one to question the need for a tasting of fine port...but with this being fixed for late 2017, I wondered if there is some significance that I am not aware of for the date and/or the ports to be tasted?
Now I just need to find where that 2017 calendar is...
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We are quorate. Must ascertain which bottles I have. Maybe I could bring a Sandeman 1970 mag from storage.

Obviously the placemat design should be artisanal rather than industrial.
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Yes please, count me in!
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Please count me in.
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Why this date and theme?

I'm sure I can put my name down to attend at this stage, subject to later events changing my availability.

I could contribute S67, keeping to both the "7" and Sandeman themes and having the numerical elegance of being consumed in its 50th year.

Or I could contribute a magnum of F70.

Any preference - choose one of the alternatives, not both!
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Both. Ok, ok, not both. Instead please the magnum of F70 and the bottle of S67. (Peeps: support me.)

Doggett wrote:I wondered if there is some significance that I am not aware of for the date and/or the ports to be tasted?
AHB wrote:Why this date and theme?
You have enough clues, and enough time to follow them. I expect that you will approve. If and when you deduce the answer, please post something cryptic and smug and giving two weeks notice of posting the answer, rather than going straight to it.
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Clearly it is to celebrate the 50th birthday of Natalie Williams, the well known volleyball player from Long Beach (sandy) who played for Port(land) Power and was born on this date in 1970. I trust she will be attending.

p.s. I just realised the real reason for the tasting; where is the smug icon, anyway?
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PhilW wrote:Clearly it is to celebrate the 50th birthday of Natalie Williams, the well known volleyball player from Long Beach (sandy) who played for Port(land) Power and was born on this date in 1970. I trust she will be attending.
Woman (of whom I have never previously heard) born in 1970. In which year will be her fiftieth birthday? Clue: not 2017.
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Sounds excellent count me in, I have S77 if that helps
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My tee-total sister will be very pleased to learn that we will be celebrating her 56th birthday with such wonderful Ports. But, never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few...

I'm in.
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Good news, Mr W. It took some organisation, but I have managed to reschedule my haircut (to the week before), so I am now free for this event and would certainly like to attend.

The undoubtedly even better news is Mrs Gh is also Up for the Cup (of port). Presumably we will have to arrange childcare, but at least we know the barber might be available, eh?

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Excellent. We are at ten people (four of whom are known to understand the theme), so some more bottles will be needed. Which can be decided later.
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Ok then. Do it. What do you want me to contribute?
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Hello, all this sounds too interesting! I don't know Natalie Williams but my birthday is a week prior to the event and I'd love to celebrate it with nice port!
I hope I can be included to the attendees.
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[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=90410#p90410]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:
After some digital archaeology, jdaw1, in [url=http://www.jdawiseman.com/papers/placemat/placemats_list.html#a20021130]the list of old placemats[/url], wrote:
30 Nov 02 www.jdawiseman.com/port/20021130_Sandeman_1970s.pdf R. In Fulham: Sandemans, and 1970s A draft of these placemats was made by hand in Adobe Illustrator, about three weeks before the event. … Placemats for earlier events were also made in Illustrator. But the used placemats were made in PostScript. So this seems to have been the event at which placemats switched from being artisanal to being industrial.
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With twelve people we need more than seven bottles. How should the theme be extended? Obviously ‘both’. But what else?
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jdaw1 wrote:With twelve people we need more than seven bottles. How should the theme be extended? Obviously ‘both’. But what else?
I don't suppose anyone has any early to mid 1st century port lying around?

Or, alternatively but connected to that link, something produced by a family of Scottish origin?
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I've realised that for some strange reason I have not put my name down for this tasting. Can the powers that be remedy this forthwith (or else put me down on the reserve list? :D
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DRT wrote:Or, alternatively but connected to that link, something produced by a family of Scottish origin?
Do we want a second page of Mackenzie? Do we have enough?
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Or Scottish bottlings?
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PhilW wrote:Or Scottish bottlings?
Ooh, good idea.

I have booked the Boot & Flogger’s Red Room.
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If there is space please may I be included.
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Cookie wrote:If there is space please may I be included.
Sure. Please confirm that your diary has the correct year.
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jdaw1 wrote:
Cookie wrote:If there is space please may I be included.
Sure. Please confirm that your diary has the correct year.
Duly noted...thank you.
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Just a post to resurrect this thread as it moves closer to happening... I can confirm I would still like to come, and still have the W70 to offer.
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Glad you nudged this. I've now got the date in my diary.
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Re-awakening this.

The software’s 15th Anniversary: are we still on?
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Do we have a Croft 70 (75cl) yet?

If not, I can bring one of those.
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Very much yes. I can still bring the S77

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I would like to, but there is now a very strong possibility that I will be generally unable to make Thursday evenings during term-time; better down-grade me to maybe/reserve for now; will confirm either way once certain.
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Doggett wrote: 12:46 Sun 06 Mar 2016I have a Warre 70 to contribute at this stage.
Please confirm.

AHB wrote: 17:02 Tue 08 Mar 2016I could contribute S67, keeping to both the "7" and Sandeman themes and having the numerical elegance of being consumed in its 50th year.

Or I could contribute a magnum of F70.
F70 preferred.

Ghandih wrote: 22:44 Thu 17 Mar 2016The undoubtedly even better news is Mrs Gh is also Up for the Cup (of port). Presumably we will have to arrange childcare, but at least we know the barber might be available, eh?
Please confirm availability. Presumably you will adopt.

djewesbury wrote: 13:42 Sun 20 Mar 2016Ok then. Do it. What do you want me to contribute?
Are you still available?

Constandia wrote: 20:45 Mon 04 Apr 2016I hope I can be included to the attendees.
Please confirm.

idj123 wrote: 12:29 Tue 04 Oct 2016put my name down for this tasting
Please confirm.

Cookie wrote: 22:12 Sun 20 Nov 2016If there is space please may I be included.
Please confirm.

DRT wrote: 21:46 Sun 02 Jul 2017Do we have a Croft 70 (75cl) yet?
Thank you. Excellent.

CPR 1 wrote: 06:45 Mon 03 Jul 2017Very much yes. I can still bring the S77
Thank you. Excellent.
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If there is still a space I would like to join in. Could bring Sandeman 66 or 67.

Alternatively since i stumbled over it on the weekend Hutchinson 1970 :evil: :twisted: ....

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WS1 wrote: 12:35 Tue 04 Jul 2017 If there is still a space I would like to join in. Could bring Sandeman 66 or 67.

Alternatively since i stumbled over it on the weekend Hutchinson 1970
And are full again, Wolfgang bringing Sandeman 1966.
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Please consider me reconfirmed.
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I can confirm the W70. Thank you
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PhilW wrote: 08:47 Mon 03 Jul 2017 I would like to, but there is now a very strong possibility that I will be generally unable to make Thursday evenings during term-time; better down-grade me to maybe/reserve for now; will confirm either way once certain.
Confirming I would not be able to make the date (can be removed from reserves).
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Hello all,
I hope you're well. Long time no post, and tbh I'd rather not have to. But, Mrs Gh and I have moved to the seaside (well, Bournemouth), and the logistics of getting ourselves up to the Big Smoke for Port on a Thursday evening are [is "logistics" plural?] beyond us for the time being.
Therefore, with regret, we would like to withdraw our participation at the tasting, and offer our seats at the table to other (and perhaps more) deserving persons.
We hope that the organiser(s) can control the inevitable rush and greatly regret any inconvenience caused.
Have a splendid evening, and we look forward to catching up another time,
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With the absence of the Gandys, we have lost two-thirds of those of the intended attendees who were at the first use of the placemat software, fifteen years ago.

We’re still on, but I feel less need to reproduce precisely an enjoyable but not of-itself remarkable tasting held in late 2002. Should the theme become ‘Bring a Sandeman or a 1970’? Or less specific than that: ‘Bring an Appropriate Bottle, Sighted’. I like the latter.
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Either is good, I shall bring a S70
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{Expletives!} {Expletives!} {Expletives!}

I now recall what happened. When this tasting was created the attempt to book a room was rejected, because it was too far in the future. And I failed to make a diary entry nudging me into booking. And now it’s too late. All rooms taken for that date.

What should I do?
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It would make a fine January tasting to get things going for 2018...
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Doggett wrote: 08:26 Fri 10 Nov 2017 It would make a fine January tasting to get things going for 2018...
Seconded, especially as I can't make the current date!
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jdaw1 wrote: 22:09 Thu 09 Nov 2017 {Expletives!} {Expletives!} {Expletives!}

I now recall what happened. When this tasting was created the attempt to book a room was rejected, because it was too far in the future. And I failed to make a diary entry nudging me into booking. And now it’s too late. All rooms taken for that date.

What should I do?
Have you tried contacting some of the other Davy's establishments we've used in the past? Ignore Mike and Simon, I for one would like to stick to this date :D
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Best bet would be to try other Davy's branches where we might be known.

Alternatives include:
A table in the open area at the B&F - not ideal but perfectly acceptable.

We could try for a table at one of the branches of Hawksmoor, although we'd have to pay corkage unless we moved to a Monday night.

I could enquire whether we might be accommodated at the Naval & Military Club, but we would need to pay corkage and probably would need to pay for room hire.

I can definitely accommodate us at Phyllis Court in Henley-On-Thames, no room hire and modest corkage.

Max Graham (Johnny Graham of Churchill Port's son) has said that we can use the private dining area at Bar Douro as a trial location for a port tasting (so long as he can join us!). We've been talking about setting something up for Jan / Feb when things are quiet in the restaurant, but I could ask if the mezzanine area is free - it might be too much of a push now though as I know he is really busy, but if we delay until Jan / Feb it would be an ideal trial venue.

Let me know if you want me to follow up on any of the venues where I have contacts.
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jdaw1 wrote: 21:10 Wed 11 Oct 2017 With the absence of the Gandys, we have lost two-thirds of those of the intended attendees who were at the first use of the placemat software, fifteen years ago.
jdaw1 wrote: 22:09 Thu 09 Nov 2017 {Expletives!} {Expletives!} {Expletives!}

I now recall what happened. When this tasting was created the attempt to book a room was rejected, because it was too far in the future. And I failed to make a diary entry nudging me into booking. And now it’s too late. All rooms taken for that date.

What should I do?
If we held the tasting in Bournemouth it might solve both of those problems.
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Well, it seems your options are to either change the venue, or change the date. Since people may have made arrangements already, changing the venue seems like the better choice (and AHB has provided some decent suggestions). If, on the other hand, you were to change the date... the Tuesday would look good for me ;)
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