Thu 08 Jun - 67@50 2017

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 20:31 Thu 07 Apr 2016

Thursday 08 June 2017 - 6:00pm Boot and Flogger Booked.

The 1967 vintage falls in the shadow of the outstanding vintages that preceded it. Bottles I have tasted recently have held up pretty well. For those of us who are turning 50 in 2017 (and others), this will be an excellent opportunity to re-evaluate the vintage.

Shippers I am aware of... there are probably more.

Fonseca Guimaraens; TC, IDJ, SCD
Taylors Vargellas; TC, PW
Offley; TC
Martinez; AHB, WS1
Gonzalez Byass; TC?,
Cockburn; TC, AHB, SCD, WS1, AXEL
Rebello Valente;
Sandeman; TC, WS1, AXEL
Messias Cachão; TC
Noval; AHB
Nacional; TC, AXEL
Krohn; TC
Q da Roeda; TC
Butler Nephew; TC
Mackenzie;
Dalva;
Adams (Quinta das Carvalhas);
Kopke;
Pocas;
Royal Oporto; TC

People:

TC; (Confirmed) Kr67, Ms67, NN67, QDR67, S67, T67(crusted), BN67, Kopke (Col), Taylors (Col), Messias (Col), Barros (Col)
JDAW; (confirmed)
MPM; (Confirmed)
PW; (Confirmed) Tv67 (EB BBR)
SCD; (Confirmed) Fg67.
IDJ; (Confirmed)
AHB; (Confirmed) N67
DG; (Confirmed)
WS1 Mz67(Confirmed) +
CMAG (Confirmed)
Caprica (Confirmed)
SMC (confirmed)
Tom (confirmed) Tv (OB)
Wolfgang G. (Ck67 from Axel).

D67 - C.S.
N67 - AHB
Fg67 - SCD
Tv67(OB) - Tom
Tv67(BBR) - PW
Mz67 - WS
Ck67 - WG
T67(Crusted) - TC
BN67 - TC
Kr67 - TC
Ms67 -TC
Cr(QDR) - TC
S67 - TC
NN67 - TC

Ms(Col) - TC
K(Col) - Tc
T67 (Col)- TC
Ba (Col) -TC

With special thanks to Charles Symington who has donated a bottle of D67 from the family's private cellar.

Draft of the placemats.

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 20:36 Thu 07 Apr 2016

With the calendar already pretty full for 2017, I thought I would put a placeholder in for a 67 tasting.
It is still quite a way away so plant of time to find the rarer bottles. Recent tastings (Fg, Tv, Ck, Kr) indicate that the vintage has held up very well.

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:49 Thu 07 Apr 2016

Yes please.

Edit:
I am confident that there were 1967 declarations from: Cockburn; Croft Quinta da Roeda; Fonseca Guimaraens; González Byass; Krohn; Martinez; Messias Quinta do Cachão; Offley Boa Vista; Poças; Quinta do Noval; Quinta do Noval Nacional; Robertson Rebello Valente; Royal Oporto; Sandeman; and Taylor Quinta de Vargellas.

There might also be 1967s from Butler Nephew and Rozès.

Post by **flash_uk** » 23:51 Thu 07 Apr 2016

Yes please, would be great to try more '67s.

Post by **PhilW** » 08:09 Fri 08 Apr 2016

Hi Tony, good foresight, yes please!
- There is also an Adams '67 VP (actually Quinta das Carvalhas, see here)
- You've included Dalva - is there a Dalva '67 VP? I'm only aware of the Dalva '67 colheita

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 08:28 Fri 08 Apr 2016

Yes please... Great idea.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 12:02 Fri 08 Apr 2016

Yes, good idea Tony-I think this was one of tastings suggested the other night. In which case I will desist from quaffing my bottle of FG67 (the other one I had was terrific). We probably will need a bit of time as outside of the Ck, Mz and TV, I don't recall seeing too much of the others. However, in saying that perhaps best to try and secure early because as we've found with the '66, prices will soon start going up...

Post by **flash_uk** » 14:38 Fri 08 Apr 2016

I think there was also Kopke and Pocas. Finding sufficient '67s could be quite a challenge!

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:45 Fri 08 Apr 2016

Third post of this thread edited to include believed declarations.

Post by **PhilW** » 15:42 Fri 08 Apr 2016

idj123 wrote:We probably will need a bit of time as outside of the Ck, Mz and TV, I don't recall seeing too much of the others. However, in saying that perhaps best to try and secure early because as we've found with the '66, prices will soon start going up...

That said, someone whose business includes purchasing lots of port just before it reaches the age of 50 in order to sell to the 50th birthday market (never mind stored for himself if that is his birth year) might just have some stored away already...

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 21:17 Tue 12 Apr 2016

Sounds good count me in please. I will need to adopt as I don't have any 67!

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 13:52 Wed 13 Apr 2016

Yes... I just might have a small arsenal of 67's spirited away in my cellar waiting for a suitable opportunity to taste them.
There are a few on the list I don't have that could be a problem.

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 14:41 Wed 13 Apr 2016

forest26 wrote:There are a few on the list I don't have that could be a problem.

Which ones are missing that we should looking out for? I have a Cockburn and a Fonseca G...one of which I need for my parents golden wedding anniversary and the other for the tasting. Either way round is ok.

Simon

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 13:25 Fri 15 Apr 2016

I'd love to attend. I also really like the 1967 vintage and think this is one which is often overlooked by the port market generally - but that could change when desperate people start to look for 50th birthday presents.

I've got a few shippers: Ck, a solitary GB, Martinez, Noval, one bottle of Roeda, Sandeman or Vargellas.

Post by **DRT** » 20:28 Fri 15 Apr 2016

Yes please.

Constandia · Post by **Constandia** » 08:07 Sat 16 Apr 2016

Tony, count me in please! If I can't get hold of any bottles by then, I will happily contribute money in the pot/ adopt a bottle e.t.c.
Cheers, D.

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 19:54 Sat 03 Dec 2016

Hi - I need to start planning this and firm up dates by end Jan 17.

I now have most of the 67's on the list bar a few which are proving difficult. I would like to try and make this as complete a horizontal as possible.

At the offline we did talk about holding this in Porto in June if we ever got the cricket match sorted out. I think time and logistics will be against us.
Avoiding San Joao steers this to early June or July.

Any thoughts would be welcome.

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 19:59 Sat 03 Dec 2016

AHB wrote:I'd love to attend. I also really like the 1967 vintage and think this is one which is often overlooked by the port market generally - but that could change when desperate people start to look for 50th birthday presents.

I've got a few shippers: Ck, a solitary GB, Martinez, Noval, one bottle of Roeda, Sandeman or Vargellas.

After posting my last message - I just noticed that you had a Noval which was proving harder to get than the Nacional,
That might leave just Dalva and Mckenzie (and any others I missed in the list)

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 20:08 Sat 03 Dec 2016

I still have either a Ck or Fonseca G available for this tasting. When you are ready, let me know which works best.
In terms of when...all I hope is that it is a UK tasting as it is incredibly unlikely I will be able to be in Porto for the intended celebrations (if there are others unable to get to Porto, I propose we have a simultaneous offline at the Boot and Flogger).

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 16:53 Mon 05 Dec 2016

If possible I would like to attend too. Could contribute Sandeman, Martinez and Cockburns.

regards

WS1

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 15:38 Mon 12 Dec 2016

Yes, please +1

I could contribute NN67, Sandeman and Cockburn.

Best

Axel

Post by **jdaw1** » 23:04 Mon 12 Dec 2016

Do we yet have a date for this excellent event?

Post by **PhilW** » 09:31 Tue 13 Dec 2016

forest26 wrote:Avoiding San Joao steers this to early June or July.
Any thoughts would be welcome.

Regarding availability in June/July - In June I should be ok for anything other than Tuesdays or June 1/2 (half-term), any Sao Joao plans aside. In July I should be ok for any date up to the 20th, unsure after that. I have TV67 available if wanted.

Deleted_User_1 · Post by **Deleted_User_1** » 14:27 Tue 13 Dec 2016

Could you count me in please...will probably need to adopt if possible.

JB vintage · Post by **JB vintage** » 12:57 Sun 18 Dec 2016

Sten, Stefan and I would like to come.
//Jorgen

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 19:30 Sun 18 Dec 2016

Thank you - for comments etc
Slightly tied up until Xmas - I will tray and finalise dates etc by end Jan
In the meantime have a great Christmas.

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 14:30 Fri 13 Jan 2017

Now getting round to arranging this....
We appear to have most of the shippers between us.
I have booked B&F for Thursday 08 June - I have edited the list in order of expressions of interest. Please reconfirm that you can attend.
I will update the list after this.

Cheers

Tony

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 14:33 Fri 13 Jan 2017

Reconfirming... Thank you.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 14:35 Fri 13 Jan 2017

Reconfirmed

Post by **flash_uk** » 15:31 Fri 13 Jan 2017

Reconfirming, thx.

Post by **PhilW** » 16:03 Fri 13 Jan 2017

Reconfirming, date works for me.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 16:08 Fri 13 Jan 2017

Please could Christopher Gee be added to the waiting list.

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 20:37 Fri 13 Jan 2017

Sorry but I will be in Scotland. Enjoy

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 07:19 Fri 20 Jan 2017

jdaw1 wrote: ↑23:04 Mon 12 Dec 2016 Do we yet have a date for this excellent event?

Hi Stefan
I am just updating the page for this - can you let me know if you still want to come to this tasting. Also what 67's do you have to offer ?

Post by **PhilW** » 09:31 Fri 20 Jan 2017

Tony - couple of suggestions on your attendee list:
- You have "Axel P + 1" in one place on your list, but no Axel P or AP; If "Yes please +1" from Axel meant AP and his +1 you need both in the list.
- You currently have 16 people listed as attending; not sure if you're intending to limit to 14 per usual practise or not, but if so then suggest you clearly make the last couple as reserves, otherwise people will assume they have a place.

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 11:40 Fri 20 Jan 2017

Thanks Phil - I will consolidate this over the weekend.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 13:13 Fri 20 Jan 2017

I'm still in.

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 14:35 Mon 23 Jan 2017

First post updated.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 15:39 Tue 28 Feb 2017

Hi guys, as we (the dschermanns) need to book flights: how definite is this tasting happening?

Best

Axel

Caparica · Post by **Caparica** » 12:52 Fri 03 Mar 2017

Tony, please count me in !
Thank you.

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 13:16 Mon 20 Mar 2017

Tony, do you know if you would rather I bring the Cockburn 67 or Fonseca G 67 for this tasting? Let me know if one of them works and I will either bring it on Wednesday or for the 55@55 tasting so it is there at the B&F. Many thanks.

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:30 Sat 25 Mar 2017

Draft of the placemats added to the first post.

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 15:43 Sun 26 Mar 2017

First post updated.

Can those who have not confirmed please do so soon as there are some on the reserve list that need to book flights.

I am a couple of ports "lite" on my target (I am still working on these but if you have any please let me know). I can either

a) Double up on some cases - e.g. library release vs UK bottling
b) I have a small collection of 67 colhietas which I would love to share as a dessert course.

or

c) a+b

Please let me know your thoughts.

Post by **PhilW** » 15:51 Sun 26 Mar 2017

I think (b) would be a splendid addition.

Post by **jdaw1** » 18:49 Sun 26 Mar 2017

My vote is a: library versus UK.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 19:39 Sun 26 Mar 2017

My vote is (c). Let us know which vintages you're missing and we can see if we can track them down in anyone's cellar.

I have a confession though. When get myself organised this weekend to take some bottles to the B&F for this tasting, I found that I do not own any Butler Nephew 1967. I have one bottle left of Gonzalez Byass 1967 which I would happily contribute in addition to the Noval 1967.

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:10 Sun 26 Mar 2017

I’d welcome a good-quality high-resolution picture of the label of GB67. Please?

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 19:51 Mon 27 Mar 2017

AHB wrote: ↑19:39 Sun 26 Mar 2017 My vote is (c). Let us know which vintages you're missing and we can see if we can track them down in anyone's cellar.

I have a confession though. When get myself organised this weekend to take some bottles to the B&F for this tasting, I found that I do not own any Butler Nephew 1967. I have one bottle left of Gonzalez Byass 1967 which I would happily contribute in addition to the Noval 1967.

Much appreciated - By fortune my GB67 may actually be a BN67. I do need to check though.

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 20:00 Mon 27 Mar 2017

I think option c) would work well. After a hard nights tasting work the option of a few aged tawnys might go down well.
There are still a couple of months to go and I am still working on a couple of VP's.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 17:38 Wed 29 Mar 2017

Noval 67 now at the B&F