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With the postponement of the Placemat tasting, an alternative tasting on the Wed of that week has been arranged.

Date: Wed 29 Nov 2017
Location: B&F
Theme: A Cálem (mini-)vertical
Vintages: 35, 58(Foz), 60, 63, 63(Foz), 66(Foz), 70, 70(Foz), 77, 80(Foz), 83, 85

Attendees:

• PW (Cá60, Cá83)
• IDJ (Cá63)
• SCD (CáF63 adopted from THRA)
• TC (Cá77)
• CPR (CáF66 adopted from PW)
• JDAW (Cá70 adopted from PW)
• THRA (CáF58, Cá35 to be adopted by team)
• AHB (CáF70 adopted from PW)
• WS (Cá85, plus Cá80 adopted from IDC)

Bottles to bring:

• PW: Cá60, Cá66f, Cá70, Cá70f, Cá83
• TC : Cá77
• IDJ : Cá63, CáF80
• THRA : Cá35, CáF58, CáF63
• WS : Cá85

(additional vintages potentially available: 35, 87, 94, 97)

Current version of the food order.

Current draft of the placemats.



Additional organiser notes:
- bottles available:
PW : 60, 63, 66f, 70, 70f, 83, 85
TC : 77, 85
IDJ : 63, 77, 80, 85 (97)
CPR : 77, (87)
THRA : 35, 58f, 63f (94)
WS : 83, 85 (9x?)

Phil, the fact that you're up for these dates is a relievingly positive sign and so yes, I'm available on either date, irrespective of theme. I've been looking forward to the long awaited Ca vertical for some time but maybe given the likely number of attendees maybe it's worth keeping this one dry until the New Year (he's says rather reluctantly)? I'd be happy with a simply 'bring a bottle'.

I hope I could make either of these dates (but would need to confirm nearer that I have Zac care)... and would be happy with any theme, including an early ‘69 mini horizontal if you fancy Phil. If it were to be Calem, I would need to adopt but otherwise happy to bring a bottle to share.

I'm unlikely to be available on either evening, but there is a very small possibility that I would be available on the 29th.

Either should work - 29th preferred

Will fit in on any theme - I definitely have Ca77 and Ca85

Sounds good either will work for me

Yes please: either. Either.

PhilW wrote: ↑12:06 Wed 15 Nov 2017- Perhaps I could bring all my Calem, for a mini-Calem vertical, if people were interested? (at least Ca60, Ca63, CaF66, CaF70, Ca70, Ca83, Ca85 plus whatever others could supply).

Yes please.

Of course you meant “Cálem” and “Cá[F]YY”.

idj123 wrote: ↑15:43 Wed 15 Nov 2017Phil, the fact that you're up for these dates is a relievingly positive sign

Indeed, though more a deferral than progress on the issue.

idj123 wrote: ↑15:43 Wed 15 Nov 2017I've been looking forward to the long awaited Ca vertical for some time but maybe given the likely number of attendees maybe it's worth keeping this one dry until the New Year (he's says rather reluctantly)?

I've been looking forward to it for a long time also, hence the saved bottles which I'm keen to taste and enjoy with friends. As we already have 6+, and given potential future limitations, I'm highly inclined to go for it.

I've checked with B&F, and both Red and Green rooms are currently available on both nights, so I'll leave it another day or so in case of further interest before making the decision on date.

For Ca I can offer up 63,77, 80, 85 and 97 (I believe but will check).

Sorry, forget the 97 (overlooked the date restriction). Also have the 83 in storage but unlikely to be able to retrieve in time.

idj123 wrote: ↑12:43 Thu 16 Nov 2017Also have the 83 in storage but unlikely to be able to retrieve in time.

Thanks Ian - I'll double check I have the '83 (as I believe I have one bottle remaining)

I can offer 77 and also 87 if wanted

Put me down..

Could add the Calem 94 to the bottles already noted, also the Foz 58 and Foz 63..

..and then there's my stash of Calem 35 in Champagne bottles

I should clarify-the 80 is Da Foz.

We are booked for the Wed 29th, currently nominally in green room (as there are only seven/eight of us) but will be in red if there is no other booking in the interim, or if our numbers increase and red is still available.

I currently propose we will have at least the following: 60, 63, 63(Foz), 70, 70(Foz), 77, 83, 85
That would give us eight bottles across 7/8 people. I would be more than happy to add the additional three Foz vintages (58, 66, 80) and/or the '35, if people would like (since we are unlikely to do another Calem vertical) or if we have any additional people attending.

I'm not likely to know whether I can attend until the day before, or possibly on the Monday. However, I'd love to attend if I can since I have never tasted the Foz '58 or '80 or the Calem '83. Please make sure there is a spare space!

Alex is in. Mark my words. And a good thing too.

Phil: who would you like to make the placemats? I’m willing, but you are also capable.

jdaw1 wrote: ↑21:35 Mon 20 Nov 2017 Alex is in. Mark my words. And a good thing too.

Only so I have the chance to drop off my bottle of Cockburn 1977 for the tasting in December.

jdaw1 wrote: ↑21:35 Mon 20 Nov 2017Alex is in. Mark my words. And a good thing too.

Excellent.

jdaw1 wrote: ↑21:36 Mon 20 Nov 2017Phil: who would you like to make the placemats? I’m willing, but you are also capable.

If you're happy to, please do.

I've made the executive decision to include the CáF58, CáF66 and CáF80, and made a nominal assignment for who to bring what and adoptions; any objections please let me know.

Also please let me know food order by the end of the week (from the usual menu).

PhilW wrote: ↑09:43 Tue 21 Nov 2017

jdaw1 wrote: ↑21:35 Mon 20 Nov 2017Alex is in. Mark my words. And a good thing too.

Excellent.

jdaw1 wrote: ↑21:36 Mon 20 Nov 2017Phil: who would you like to make the placemats? I’m willing, but you are also capable.

If you're happy to, please do.

I've made the executive decision to include the CáF58, CáF66 and CáF80, and made a nominal assignment for who to bring what and adoptions; any objections please let me know.

Also please let me know food order by the end of the week (from the usual menu).

Was pondering how to respond to your proposal as one hand I would love as full a vertical as possible but on the other, the lack of participants potentially compromised this. However, as soon as I saw AHB's response I knew which way the pendulum would swing and so happy with this Executive decision Shame though we don't have a few more people willing to be counted...

PhilW wrote: ↑09:43 Tue 21 Nov 2017
I've made the executive decision to include the CáF58, CáF66 and CáF80, and made a nominal assignment for who to bring what and adoptions; any objections please let me know.

Also please let me know food order by the end of the week (from the usual menu).

Excellent decision, can I suggest we move to the Red room if possible as with this line up the green room will be tight.

Re food

Mac and Cheese followed by black and blue steak with a side of green beans - thank you

New weird stuff on menu: avoid. For me please, Duck liver pâté; Grilled gammon steak with everything.

Placemats: will do. (Edit: have done — in first post.)

Note to self (or to JDAW if he can be persuaded to kindly generate the food order):

Starter: Welsh Rarebit
Main: Rib eye steak (black and blue) with hand cut chips
+ Béarnaise sauce
+ Green beans with shallots

No food for me, just good juice and good company. Many thanks.

If there is space, can I please still attend?

Would need to check what I have but I am sure I have some Calem 83, 85 and some from the 90s.

regards

WS1

Hi Wolfgang; obviously would love you to join us, but I will need to check whether we can move into the red room (if it is still available). Will let you know ASAP tomorrow.

WS1 wrote: ↑13:21 Thu 23 Nov 2017If there is space, can I please still attend?

PhilW wrote: ↑21:54 Thu 23 Nov 2017Hi Wolfgang; obviously would love you to join us, but I will need to check whether we can move into the red room (if it is still available). Will let you know ASAP tomorrow.

Yes
We are now booked for the red room (instead of green), so have plenty of room. Am glad you're able to join us. I'll adjust the adoptions slightly.

The food order currently has order from only three of us.

jdaw1 wrote:The food order currently has order from only three of us.

Thanks for preparing. BTW you can include Simon (no food) too.

All, please do let us know what you want over the weekend, as I need to give the order to the B&F on Monday morning. Thank you.

I'm not sure I can see much change in the menu from the last few times and so I will have:

-truffle mac and cheese
-steak (medium-rare) and chips

Thanks

Thank you! Just located the Ca85 among some 02 Burgundies! I must have been drunk putting it in that wooden box!

Can I please have duck liver parfait as starter and Sirloin Steak (medium rare) with peppercorn source as a main.

Looking fwd to Wednesday

cu

WS1

WS1 wrote: ↑11:31 Sat 25 Nov 2017Just located the Ca85

Please confirm that Wolfgang is bringing Cá85 instead of Tony. Please also confirm that Wolfgang is bringing Cá85 rather than CáF85.

And WPS hasn’t read the new menu. Order interpreted as Duck liver pâté; Rib eye steak (240g aged for 28 days) with hand cut chips, Medium-Rare.

jdaw1 wrote: ↑14:59 Sat 25 Nov 2017

WS1 wrote: ↑11:31 Sat 25 Nov 2017Just located the Ca85

Please confirm that Wolfgang is bringing Cá85 instead of Tony. Please also confirm that Wolfgang is bringing Cá85 rather than CáF85.

And WPS hasn’t read the new menu. Order interpreted as Duck liver pâté; Rib eye steak (240g aged for 28 days) with hand cut chips, Medium-Rare.

uups! I did not read the menu but read the christmas menu yesterday and assumed Sirloin is also on offer.....
Anyway your interpretation was correct! Also please do not forget the peppercorn sauce!

Just checked the bt again to be sure, it is a Calem VP 1985. Is there also a CaF 85?

regards

WS1

jdaw1 wrote: ↑14:59 Sat 25 Nov 2017

WS1 wrote: ↑11:31 Sat 25 Nov 2017Just located the Ca85

Please confirm that Wolfgang is bringing Cá85 instead of Tony. Please also confirm that Wolfgang is bringing Cá85 rather than CáF85.

Confirming both. I am not aware of the existence of any Foz from '85.

I will be following up with emails to all tomorrow to confirm bottles being brought, adoptions, and to chase outstanding food orders, in case any attendees haven't seen recent posts.

WS1 wrote: ↑15:40 Sat 25 Nov 2017Is there also a CaF 85?

Not of which I am aware.

s. Crab salad

m. Steak medium rare - side of spinach or something green.

forest26 wrote: ↑13:05 Sun 26 Nov 2017Crab salad something green.

= Green beans with shallots

PhilW wrote: ↑12:06 Wed 15 Nov 2017(additional vintages potentially available: 35, 87, 94, 97)

How financially punitive would it be to include the ’35?

Food order has been sent (Tom: I've assumed you want a steak, per my email; Alex I've left yours blank for now until we know whether you are able to join us, and whether for food or not).

jdaw1 wrote: ↑13:57 Sun 26 Nov 2017

PhilW wrote: ↑12:06 Wed 15 Nov 2017(additional vintages potentially available: 35, 87, 94, 97)

How financially punitive would it be to include the ’35?

I don't know, but will check.

PhilW wrote: ↑12:31 Mon 27 Nov 2017

jdaw1 wrote: ↑13:57 Sun 26 Nov 2017How financially punitive would it be to include the ’35?

I don't know, but will check.

We could add the '35 for around £25/head if wanted (and the '87 probably for less than an extra fiver, though I haven't checked with CPR to confirm). We are currently 11 bottles, with 8/9 people (depending whether Alex can attend or not). Do people want to include the additional vintage(s), '35 and/or '87 ?

PhilW wrote: ↑10:27 Tue 28 Nov 2017

PhilW wrote: ↑12:31 Mon 27 Nov 2017

jdaw1 wrote: ↑13:57 Sun 26 Nov 2017How financially punitive would it be to include the ’35?

I don't know, but will check.

We could add the '35 for around £25/head if wanted (and the '87 probably for less than an extra fiver, though I haven't checked with CPR to confirm). We are currently 11 bottles, with 8/9 people (depending whether Alex can attend or not). Do people want to include the additional vintage(s), '35 and/or '87 ?

If we were to include an additional bottle, personally, I would prefer the 87 rather than the 35, being more in keeping with the line-up.

Cálem vertical so unusual that I favour the extra. Preferred the ’35; would agree with ’87 if that the consensus.

For placemat purposes, decision by 11pm today please.

Hi,

I am in favour of the 35! Brilliant port! Also just delivered my bt of Ca85 to the Boot&Flogger with instruction to leave the bt in the cellar standing. Along the way I dropped off my British passport application......

cu tomorrow

regards

WS1

Forgot to ad I would tolerate the 87 Calem too; just want to mention that in the old days when DRT was present both ports would have been added anyway!



regards

WS1

I am keen on the idea of the 35 if that works. 87 difficult as in mother in law's cellar

Phil: decision please.

Presumably credited to “The team, from XXX”.

Almost unanimous, so 35 will be included.

Added to the paperwork. Please confirm satisfactory.