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Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 17:44 Sat 17 Feb 2018
by jdaw1
When: 6¼pm Tuesday 10
th April 2018.
Theme: 1963s, sighted, no duplicates, no awful shippers.
Venue: The Red Room in
The Boot & Flogger, 10-20 Redcross Way, London SE1 1TA.
Attendees:
- JDAW (Taylor);
- AHB (Mackenzie, alternatives being Dow, Martinez, Sandeman, or if necessary something else out of storage);
- RLC (Sandeman);
- KMH (to adopt);
- CPR (Graham or Warre);
- MPM (Croft);
- THRA (Noval; allowing adoption of Borges, Constantino, Dow, Feuerheerd, Fonseca, Graham, Warre);
- WPS (Cockburn);
- DRL (to adopt);
- PW (Fonseca);
- IDJ (OBV + Cálem Foz);
- AP (Ramos Pinto);
- WG (assuming Niepoort);
- DRT (Croft).
Non-attendees, deemed to be on a wait list:
- TC (Dow, Warre, something else).
Ports:
- Cálem Foz (IDJ);
- Cockburn (WPS);
- Constantino (from THRA);
- Croft (MPM);
- Dow (from AHB or THRA?);
- Fonseca (PW);
- Graham (CPR?);
- Mackenzie (AHB);
- Niepoort (AP);
- Noval (THRA);
- Offley Boa Vista (IDJ);
- Sandeman (RLC);
- Taylor (JDAW);
- Warre (from CPR?).
Food order.
Draft of
the placemats.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? A Tuesday in April 2018
Posted: 17:44 Sat 17 Feb 2018
by jdaw1
jdaw1 wrote: ↑12:45 Sat 17 Feb 2018Are the 1963s coming into their second wind?
Tuesday 3
rd April (being the day after Easter Monday)? Tuesday 10
th April?
Theme: 1963s, sighted, no duplicates, no awful shippers — recalling the excellent tasting on 2 Nov 2017:
CPR 1 wrote: ↑10:51 Wed 27 Sep 2017Suggested theme - a bottle of 1970VP sighted, no duplicates, No Hutcheson!
Any interest?
(A invitation was sent to London tasters.)
Re: Second wind for 1963s? A Tuesday in April 2018
Posted: 17:55 Sat 17 Feb 2018
by forest26
Yes please - great idea.
Dow’s / warre’s or something else
Re: Second wind for 1963s? A Tuesday in April 2018
Posted: 18:26 Sat 17 Feb 2018
by Deleted_User_1
We are not available on 3rd as still in New Zealand...10th is favourite...will need to check but likely S'63 from me...Kate will be in attendance as well...will provide details of her contribution at a later date.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? A Tuesday in April 2018
Posted: 18:43 Sat 17 Feb 2018
by CPR 1
Yes please, Graham or Warre for me.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? A Tuesday in April 2018
Posted: 18:57 Sat 17 Feb 2018
by flash_uk
Yes please, but only the 10th works for me. Croft.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 21:20 Sat 17 Feb 2018
by jdaw1
Cookie wrote: ↑18:26 Sat 17 Feb 2018We are not available on 3rd as still in New Zealand...10th is favourite...
flash_uk wrote: ↑18:57 Sat 17 Feb 2018only the 10th works for me.
Tuesday 10th April 2018. For which date I have just booked the Red Room.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 04:15 Sun 18 Feb 2018
by uncle tom
Count me in - will bring the Noval
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 09:34 Sun 18 Feb 2018
by WS1
I should be able to make that, please put me down for this tasting. I would bring a Cockburn.
regards
WS1
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 11:45 Sun 18 Feb 2018
by Axel P
Just had a Delaforce on friday. Very nice drinker, probably one of the best Delaforces.
Need to check date for a bit.
Axel
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 12:03 Sun 18 Feb 2018
by Deleted_User_1
KMH will need to adopt please.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 12:23 Sun 18 Feb 2018
by DaveRL
Yes please, but I would need to adopt.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 13:25 Sun 18 Feb 2018
by PhilW
Sounds like a plan; please count me in. Will check what '63s I have, though I know it is very few.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 17:12 Sun 18 Feb 2018
by idj123
Yes please! Does OBV count as an 'awful shipper's?
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 19:15 Sun 18 Feb 2018
by jdaw1
We are thirteen: almost full.
idj123 wrote: ↑17:12 Sun 18 Feb 2018Yes please! Does OBV count as an 'awful shipper's?
Offley welcome.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 20:11 Sun 18 Feb 2018
by Alex Bridgeman
The telepathy was correct.
I can (easily) offer Dow, Mackenzie, Martinez or Sandeman. I could dig something else out of storage if necessary.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 21:35 Sun 18 Feb 2018
by jdaw1
AHB wrote: ↑20:11 Sun 18 Feb 2018I can (easily) offer Dow, Mackenzie, Martinez or Sandeman. I could dig something else out of storage if necessary.
Please, Mackenzie. Several adoptions are required. Would you be willing to allow adoption of a Martinez?
Others: please say what you’ll allow to be adopted.
Will bottles÷people at 1.0 be sufficient? Should the team adopt from those with multiples?
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 21:39 Sun 18 Feb 2018
by CPR 1
Happy to provide a Warre for adoption
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 02:08 Mon 19 Feb 2018
by uncle tom
Others: please say what you’ll allow to be adopted
I have 17 shippers of '63
Possible candidates for adoption not already confirmed:
Borges
Constantino
Dow
Feuerheerd
Fonseca
Graham
Warre
- And if anyone's feeling generous, I could also supply a Nacional at moderate cost..
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 20:52 Mon 19 Feb 2018
by jdaw1
uncle tom wrote: ↑02:08 Mon 19 Feb 2018Possible candidates for adoption not already confirmed:
Borges
Constantino
Dow
Feuerheerd
Fonseca
Graham
Warre
Thank you. Please can the Fonseca be adopted, after which the Constantino?
uncle tom wrote: ↑02:08 Mon 19 Feb 2018And if anyone's feeling generous, I could also supply a Nacional at moderate cost.
Thank you again. But alas ‘moderate’ by the standards of Nacional would still be beyond my budget.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 21:15 Mon 19 Feb 2018
by Doggett
It appears that this is a tasting I would be foolish to miss. Could I please add my name, and would need to adopt please.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 22:28 Mon 19 Feb 2018
by jdaw1
Which makes fourteen. Hence this event is full. There will likely be a waitlist.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 06:47 Tue 20 Feb 2018
by uncle tom
Please can the Fonseca be adopted, after which the Constantino?
No problem. There is a significant value difference between the two - it might be fairer if the adoptees shared the total.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 07:17 Tue 20 Feb 2018
by PhilW
PhilW wrote: ↑13:25 Sun 18 Feb 2018
Sounds like a plan; please count me in. Will check what '63s I have, though I know it is very few.
I have and could bring a Fonseca.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 13:20 Tue 20 Feb 2018
by idj123
So I believe that means the three adopted bottles being W (from Charles), Mz (from Alex) and Cn (from Tom). However...
jdaw1 wrote: ↑21:35 Sun 18 Feb 2018
Will bottles÷people at 1.0 be sufficient? Should the team adopt from those with multiples?
I agree that with a full complement of 14 people there's a case for adding for adding two or three additional shippers. Not 'pro 14' tier but I'd be willing to throw in Calem Foz, gratis, if it helps?
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 14:20 Tue 20 Feb 2018
by jdaw1
PhilW wrote:I have and could bring a Fonseca.
Splendid, thank you.
idj123 wrote:I agree that with a full complement of 14 people there's a case for adding for adding two or three additional shippers. Not 'pro 14' tier but I'd be willing to throw in Calem Foz, gratis, if it helps?
Thank you: CáF would be very welcome.
(Small edit made to your post.)
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 21:49 Tue 20 Feb 2018
by forest26
Just noticed that I am due to be in South Africa on the 10th - curses!
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 23:31 Tue 20 Feb 2018
by jdaw1
forest26 wrote:Just noticed that I am due to be in South Africa on the 10th - curses!
Curses!
Does anybody else have Dow 1963?
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 07:01 Wed 21 Feb 2018
by PhilW
jdaw1 wrote: ↑23:31 Tue 20 Feb 2018Does anybody else have Dow 1963?
AHB wrote: ↑20:11 Sun 18 Feb 2018I can (easily) offer Dow, Mackenzie, Martinez or Sandeman.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 08:03 Wed 21 Feb 2018
by Axel P
Sorry guys. I cannot make it on the given date.
Can I ask to move this to the day prior to the BFT and change the subject on this. Would bring RP then and have Niepoort to adopt.
Best
Axel
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 09:16 Wed 21 Feb 2018
by uncle tom
Does anybody else have Dow 1963?
Yes - plenty
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 10:56 Wed 21 Feb 2018
by jdaw1
Axel P wrote:Can I ask to move this to the day prior to the BFT and change the subject on this.
The day prior to the BFT would be a big ask of the man organising that event.
This is an important theme. Whatever the conclusion, retests will be necessary.
Anyway, please suggest some other dates on which the team can then opine.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 20:10 Wed 21 Feb 2018
by Alex Bridgeman
jdaw1 wrote: ↑10:56 Wed 21 Feb 2018
Axel P wrote:Can I ask to move this to the day prior to the BFT and change the subject on this.
The day prior to the BFT would be a big ask of the man organising that event.
Thank you. I will not be available for a few days before 9th May and likely also not the evening of 9th May.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 07:40 Thu 22 Feb 2018
by Axel P
Understood, Alex.
Then you guys may leave this on 10 April. I would need another week to shift some appointments.
Best
Axel
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 14:42 Thu 22 Feb 2018
by Axel P
Managed to make it. Niepoort or RP?
Axel
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 15:11 Thu 22 Feb 2018
by jdaw1
Axel P wrote:Managed to make it. Niepoort or RP?
Splendid.
Don't get know who is adopting what, so can the Ni|RP decision wait?
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 20:56 Thu 22 Feb 2018
by Doggett
Just to throw a curve ball and probably spout heresy... but I have a 1963 Cavendish I could add to the ‘63 party instead of adopting if people were interested.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 21:46 Thu 22 Feb 2018
by PhilW
It would be interesting to try the Cavendish, but I'd prioritise other ports first - particularly the NN if the organiser were to change his (clearly wrong) decision on its inclusion
If for any reason it became a choice between Ni and RP (assuming the preferred option of both being unavailable) then I would plead for the Niepoort, as I don't believe I have ever had it (though I haven't checked, and could be doing a Derek).
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 22:00 Thu 22 Feb 2018
by jdaw1
Doggett wrote: ↑20:56 Thu 22 Feb 2018Just to throw a curve ball and probably spout heresy... but I have a 1963 Cavendish I could add to the ‘63 party instead of adopting if people were interested.
If you wish to donate it as a extra, well, can’t refuse. But the experiment relates to real Ports.
PhilW wrote: ↑21:46 Thu 22 Feb 2018particularly the NN if the organiser were to change his (clearly wrong) decision on its inclusion
Ian and Phil favour the NN. Who else?
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 00:39 Fri 23 Feb 2018
by DRT
I am now available. I only have Croft. Does Mike have an alternative not already declared?
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 07:22 Fri 23 Feb 2018
by jdaw1
jdaw1 wrote:Which makes fourteen. Hence this event is full. There will likely be a waitlist.
Ditto.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 08:25 Fri 23 Feb 2018
by PhilW
jdaw1 wrote: ↑22:00 Thu 22 Feb 2018PhilW wrote: ↑21:46 Thu 22 Feb 2018particularly the NN if the organiser were to change his (clearly wrong) decision on its inclusion
Ian and Phil favour the NN. Who else?
Tom presumably also, at least (since he offered).
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 10:00 Fri 23 Feb 2018
by uncle tom
Tom presumably also, at least (since he offered).
Correct
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 10:10 Fri 23 Feb 2018
by flash_uk
PhilW wrote: ↑08:25 Fri 23 Feb 2018
jdaw1 wrote: ↑22:00 Thu 22 Feb 2018PhilW wrote: ↑21:46 Thu 22 Feb 2018particularly the NN if the organiser were to change his (clearly wrong) decision on its inclusion
Ian and Phil favour the NN. Who else?
Tom presumably also, at least (since he offered).
#metoo
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 10:15 Fri 23 Feb 2018
by Doggett
I need to make the decision on whether I could partake in the NN based on finances. What would the cost be per person?
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 10:18 Fri 23 Feb 2018
by flash_uk
Doggett wrote: ↑10:15 Fri 23 Feb 2018
I need to make the decision on whether I could partake in the NN based on finances. What would the cost be per person?
Probably about 100-120
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 10:50 Fri 23 Feb 2018
by CPR 1
jdaw1 wrote: ↑22:00 Thu 22 Feb 2018
PhilW wrote: ↑21:46 Thu 22 Feb 2018particularly the NN if the organiser were to change his (clearly wrong) decision on its inclusion
Ian and Phil favour the NN. Who else?
I would be very keen to taste the NN63 if this works for the majority
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 19:52 Fri 23 Feb 2018
by Doggett
At approx £100 I am in for the NN please as the opportunity will not present itself very often, and I can’t pass it up... but will be happy with the decision either way.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 19:07 Sun 25 Feb 2018
by Alex Bridgeman
I'm happy with the NN decision either way.
Re: Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018
Posted: 20:54 Sun 25 Feb 2018
by jdaw1
NN summary:
• Keen: IDJ, PW, THRA, MPM, CPR.
• Will play: JDAW, SCD, AHB.
• Against: so far, none.