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Set for Week commencing 23rd October 2019.

Miguel from Messias and myself have arranged for 23rd October. There is no need to contribute physical bottles as Miguel is providing most of the ports gratis. Where I have had to fill some gaps (I am still struggling with the 63) there will be a nominal cost.


I visited Caves Messias in N D Gaia a few weeks ago. Between Messias and myself, we can construct an almost complete vertical of Quinta do Cachao VP. There is an offer from Messias to help put this together. Let me know your thoughts - If there is interest and I will start to firm up....

(My assumption is that PF members do not hold a lot of these and that most (if not all) of the bottles will come from Messias / myself.

Vintages


Below all available

1. 1960 Cachao - confirmed
2. 1963 Cachao - confirmed
3. 1965 Cachao - confirmed
4. 1966 Cachao - confirmed
5. 1967 Cachao - confirmed
6. 1970 Cachao - confirmed
7. 1975 Cachao - confirmed
8. 1976 Cachao - confirmed
9. 1977 Cachao - confirmed
10. 1979 Cachao - confirmed
11. 1980 Cachao - confirmed
12. 1982 Cachao - confirmed
13. 1983 Cachao - confirmed
14. 1984 Cachao - confirmed
15. 1985 Cachao - confirmed
16. 1989 Cachao - confirmed
17. 1997 Cachao - confirmed
18. 2003 Cachao - confirmed
19. 2005 Not Cachao - don't include
20. 2007 Not Cachao - don't include
21. 2009 Cachao - confirmed
22. 2011Not Cachao - don't include

Quinta Do Cacho is located in the Cima Corgo and has been cultivated since 1845. The Quinta was acquired by Messias in 1956 and subsequently renovated. Until 2009 the production was labeled as Quinta do Cachao

ATTENDEES
Confirmed
1. MIGUEL (Messias) Confirmed
2. TC Confirmed
3. JDAW Confirmed
4. DRL Confirmed
5. MM Confirmed
6. CPR Confirmed
7. DS Confirmed
8. AHB Confirmed
9. DIA Confirmed
10. IDJ Confirmed
11. M Charlton Confirmed
12. SD Confirmed.
13. SEW (guest of JDAW)
14. (Ben Funnell guest of Tony)

Reserves:
LS - Guest of DS.

Current version of the placemats.

Yes please.

Hi Tony,

I would like to attend if still possible. I have no Quinta do Cachao

regards

WS1

I haven't tried any of these, so obviously yes please from me. Very interesting idea.

Count me in! A unique experience, many thanks for bringing it forward Tony.

yes please

Absolutely-September this year would appear free... Thanks for brokering Tony.

Yes please...

Hi Tony,
I would like to attend if still possible...
KR
Daniel

Great idea, would love to come

CMAG

Yes please.

I have owned two bottles of port from Messias - the 1963 Cachão was opened for my birthday in 2013 and the Messias 1977 colheita was drunk in April 2010. In addition, I have tasted Cachão from 1965, 1966, 1967 and 1970 and Messias from 1970 and 2011. And that's it!

Thanks for the idea Tony.

I have many bottles from Messias:

1960
1963
1970
1975
1977
1979
1980
1982
1985
1997
2003
2005
2007
2009
2011

Let me know when and where.

Best
Axel

From my chats with Messias, Messias Vigario always said, that 60 was their first Vintage and 47 their first Colheita. We might want to include some of them as well as they really are better in quality than the Vintages.

Axel

Yes please Tony-Great suggestion. Thanks

Hi I will need to start organising this - last week in September is looking promising. Any comments before I finalise?

With 22 Vintages, table space will be a constraint.

Yes please!

forest26 wrote: ↑10:22 Wed 04 Jul 2018 Hi I will need to start organising this - last week in September is looking promising. Any comments before I finalise?

I'd struggle if it was Thursday 27th September...

forest26 wrote: ↑10:22 Wed 04 Jul 2018 last week in September is looking promising.

Please not then.

I'm unlikely to be able to make the last week of September.

Howls of protest.. Ok so not September...

jdaw1 wrote: ↑23:06 Wed 04 Jul 2018 With 22 Vintages, table space will be a constraint.

Might have to do this on two flights....

I and one or two others at last night's tasting think that September is still the best month for this vertical and so what about earlier in the month-say 18th?

idj123 wrote: ↑12:19 Wed 25 Jul 2018 I and one or two others at last night's tasting think that September is still the best month for this vertical and so what about earlier in the month-say 18th?

Might have to kick this into Jan / Feb 2019. The Messias guys are a little busy early September and after that I am tied up until the New Year.

Game on - if 2018 or post about 23/3/19..

Now set for week commencing 11 feb (sorry Tom)

I would like to come to this if you have room please?

forest26 wrote: ↑11:51 Fri 09 Mar 2018 Until 2009 the production was labeled as Quinta do Cachao

To my understanding the labels "Messias" and "Quinta do Cachao" were used on different markets for the same wine until the vintage of 2007. As of 2009 "Messias" and "Quinta do Cachao" are two different wines. Is that what you mean by the quote above?

forest26 wrote: ↑19:48 Thu 20 Sep 2018Now set for week commencing 11 feb (sorry Tom)

Ideally not the Monday night please, as I am likely to be in Ipswich - although I can rearrange if required.

Note date is now set as 13th Feb

We have a lot of vintages to cover - any thoughts on how best we should approach this (e.g 2 flights) ?

I will have to postpone this to a later date as we will not have the wines in time - the suggestion is near the BFT.

I still have the room booked if we want to do something else (and a little less logistically challenging).

Should this be the theme for Victoriaʼs 200th birthday?

forest26 wrote: ↑12:24 Mon 14 Jan 2019 I still have the room booked if we want to do something else (and a little less logistically challenging).

How about we use the 13 Feb for a 1970 theme. Most of us will have a bottle of ‘70 fairly handy I would think. I stop short of saying a ‘70 horizontal as that needs a bit more planning and thinking through.

Once we can get some support for a theme, everyone who signed up for 13 Feb can confirm or drop away if preferred.

I'm always happy to drink 1970 Ports. I'm in.

You could loosen it slightly and make it "Port from the '70s"

If there is a space for the new 70 theme would love to come.
These wines need testing!

I would like to keep my name down for Quinta do Cachao Vertical whenever it is scheduled but will skip the now proposed 70s theme for this date please.

I need to drop out of the 13th I am afraid.

Still very keen on the Quinta do Cachao when this is rearranged.

Thanks

I’ve also got a challenge now with Weds the 13th
Would anyone be interested in the following evening. 14 Feb. Valentine’s Day. I haven’t sought permission yet...just checking appetite of others first!

70's tasting would be nice and easy. Definitely up for this as Room is booked for 13th - I may have a problem with moving to Valentines day

I'll work out an alternative date with Miguel from Messias. We are both keen to organise this but it will have to be later.

I'll amend the post header.

It would not go down well at home if I chose to spend Valentine's night with my beloved Port chums rather than my even more beloved other half. I wouldn't be able to make the 14th.

70's (or from that decade, don't mind which) is a great alternative idea. Still up for Quinta do Cachao when it is possible to arrange. The 13th works for me, but the 14th might land me in trouble.

Is certain that this won’t be on Thursday 23 May 2019: Victoria’s 200th?

No this will not be on that. I need to arrange a date with Miguel - he has just become a father so is a little distracted.

OK I Have an offer of a date second half of October

I am proposing 15 or 16 or (more likely) 22nd or 23rd (a week before the 69). I need to get back to confirm quickly.

Miguel will send over most of the port to me - I don't think there will be a cost for their ports.
Where I have had to purchase a few odd bottles to fill in the gaps there will be a nominal cost.

Let me know your thoughts.....

Works for me Tony. Am getting TPF tasting delirium tremens at the moment

I can make any of those dates

Those dates work for me

Now set for 23rd October - see header. Please confirm again.

Thank you. Confirming.

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