Thu 05 April 2018, THRA’s mystery 1922

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 10:45 Thu 29 Mar 2018

Edited additions to this post above the line. (Original thread title = “Excuse needed..”.)

When: Thursday 5^th April 2018.

Where: Green Room, Boot & Flogger.

People:

THRA (?22);
JDAW (W70);
CPR (T66);
IDJ (D70).

Tentative, wait-list, I-wish-I-coulds, etc:

DRT.

Draft of the placemats.

THRA’s original post below the line.

At last December's 'turkey shoot' sale at Christies, I wasn't targeting lot 557

https://www.christies.com/Lotfinder/lot ... 7b5d5c16f5

I'm not under stocked on either '22 or '24 and the strangely low estimate rang alarm bells.

..but I wasn't going to let eleven bottles of near century old port go for just £850 hammer.

So I bid £900 - and won the lot..

Have looked at the bottles for the first time today, and the lot description didn't do them justice. All the bottles have perfectly intact wax capsules, and the colour looks promising. The worst level is on one of the '22s at low shoulder - not below low shoulder as billed. Only one of the '24s shows seepage (not two) and that's very minor.

- But who's the shipper?

Anyone want to mosey round to my pub this weekend, to give me an excuse to pop that ullaged '22?

(or failing that, a better suggestion...)

Post by **jdaw1** » 11:21 Thu 29 Mar 2018

We accept your invitation to a case tasting next week.

Wednesday 4th April?

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 12:42 Thu 29 Mar 2018

jdaw1 wrote: ↑11:21 Thu 29 Mar 2018 We accept your invitation to a case tasting next week.

Wednesday 4th April?

Fabulous idea, this sounds a great, Thursday preferred though

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:20 Thu 29 Mar 2018

CPR 1 wrote: Thursday preferred though

Thursday 5th April 2018: works for me.

Tom: awaiting your confirmation.

Post by **PhilW** » 16:53 Thu 29 Mar 2018

Far be it for me to stand in the way of my port chums offering to share the case with you next week; however, if the above proposal doesn't fit with Tom's arrangements for any reason, and he is still looking for someone to join him with sampling and cork identification on this Saturday evening in Newport, then I would be very happy and able to attend!

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 08:45 Fri 30 Mar 2018

Tom, kind ofer but family committments prevail over this Easter weekend (Easter egg hunts in the main it would appear-althpugh Port hunts preferred!).

Would be up for any day next wek however...

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 16:25 Fri 30 Mar 2018

Tom: awaiting your confirmation.

- Do we have a quorum?

Phil is coming to the White Horse anyway tomorrow night, but we have a 'plan B' if the '22 is to be saved for later, as I also have a stash of '54s that need identifying. (I have also acquired a couple of bottles of wine from Phil's birth year (69) - which are thin on the ground now..)

So either, or - or both - please gents..

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:03 Fri 30 Mar 2018

A quorum shall be the number present.

1969s at the weekend with Phil; 1922s next Thursday?

Post by **PhilW** » 21:44 Fri 30 Mar 2018

jdaw1 wrote:1969s at the weekend with Phil; 1922s next Thursday?

Thanks for the suggestion, but the plan is to share some port tomorrow, whether the '22 or not; so the' 69 (non-port) is perhaps more likely saved for another time with more people, given limitations and the desire to drink port tomorrow.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 10:05 Sat 31 Mar 2018

From a purely selfish perspective I'd like it to be next Thurs which would then afford me the excuse/opportunity to drop off my '63s...

Post by **PhilW** » 09:02 Mon 02 Apr 2018

So, we didn't drink the '22 on Saturday given Julian's cheeky intervention, however we did have a very enjoyable evening with a delicious Harvey's '54 and Graham's 63. The Harvey's was fabulous, darker than the G63 and in superb condition, with wonderful aromas immediately post-decant, full and delicious flavour, sweet and long. Certainly believable that this might have been Grahams (which it is believed to be from Broadbent). The G63 by comparison was also very good, firmer but with a slight heat on the finish, though only minor. A pair of excellent wines, and very enjoyable evening, thank you Tom.

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:11 Mon 02 Apr 2018

To suggest a case tasting is never cheeky. Merely sensible.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 17:32 Tue 03 Apr 2018

OK - where are we meeting? Time?

Lest Julian has raised expectations, I will be bringing just the one bottle..

Post by **jdaw1** » 18:36 Tue 03 Apr 2018

uncle tom wrote:OK - where are we meeting? Time?

Lest Julian has raised expectations, I will be bringing just the one bottle..

I'll book B&F and report back soon.

Sighted? Tom, how should yours be described? Warre 1970 from me.

Post by **jdaw1** » 19:33 Tue 03 Apr 2018

jdaw1 wrote: ↑18:36 Tue 03 Apr 2018I'll book B&F and report back soon.

Green Room, Boot & Flogger, Thursday 5^th April 2018: booked.

For Port we have:

?22a;
?22b;
?22c;
?22d;
?22e;
?22f;
W70.

Post by **DRT** » 20:51 Tue 03 Apr 2018

This might be possible. Will confirm tomorrow.

I am fairly certain I have no 1922s immediately to hand.

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 21:11 Tue 03 Apr 2018

Excellent, I am in. I will confirm which bottle I will bring tomorrow

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:29 Tue 03 Apr 2018

Tom: I have edited your first post, using the permission you gave me ages ago.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 05:00 Wed 04 Apr 2018

I cannot make it on the dates, but could contribute some.

How about we do a 22 tasting on the monday prior to the Xmas tasting. Should be a very nice tasting.

Best

Axel

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 10:16 Wed 04 Apr 2018

How about we do a 22 tasting on the monday prior to the Xmas tasting. Should be a very nice tasting

As 22s are a bit thin on the ground, why don't we make the theme of this year's elegant luncheon (Weds Dec 19th?) 'something from the '20s'

I'm assuming we're going for Thurs 20th for the Xmas bash, with an Offley vertical (probably at the B&F) on the 18th.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 10:21 Wed 04 Apr 2018

Tom, how should yours be described?

Robinson & Payne 1922, level low shoulder, to be decanted at the table. (I will push the cork in)

Can someone with the knack, bring the technology to bag out the cork? - the bottle is a very old three part moulded piece and was probably second hand when used - would be a pity to break it..

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 11:03 Wed 04 Apr 2018

I thought this ship had sailed but I see not. Subject to reconfirmation with the powers that be (but take as read), I'm in. D70 be ok?

Post by **jdaw1** » 19:18 Wed 04 Apr 2018

DRT wrote: ↑20:51 Tue 03 Apr 2018This might be possible. Will confirm tomorrow.

Pls confirm either way.

DRT wrote: ↑20:51 Tue 03 Apr 2018I am fairly certain I have no 1922s immediately to hand.

No objection to a 1920, or a ’24, or even a ’27. Please post.

idj123 wrote: ↑11:03 Wed 04 Apr 2018I thought this ship had sailed but I see not. Subject to reconfirmation with the powers that be (but take as read), I'm in. D70 be ok?

Magnificent.

CPR 1 wrote: ↑21:11 Tue 03 Apr 2018Excellent, I am in. I will confirm which bottle I will bring tomorrow

?

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 19:30 Wed 04 Apr 2018

I will bring T66

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:21 Wed 04 Apr 2018

Draft of the placemats added to first post.

Post by **jdaw1** » 05:43 Thu 05 Apr 2018

jdaw1 wrote:Draft of the placemats added to first post.

Who to print?

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 05:58 Thu 05 Apr 2018

jdaw1 wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Draft of the placemats added to first post.
Who to print?

I can if needed

Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Post by **jdaw1** » 07:56 Thu 05 Apr 2018

CPR 1 wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Draft of the placemats added to first post.
Who to print?
I can if needed

Yes please. I doubt that I'll be early.

Post by **flash_uk** » 11:06 Thu 05 Apr 2018

I may pop in around 9 to drop off the Cr63 for next week. Could you save me a thimbleful of the ‘22?

Post by **jdaw1** » 12:08 Thu 05 Apr 2018

flash_uk wrote:I may pop in around 9 to drop off the Cr63 for next week. Could you save me a thimbleful of the ‘22?

Sure.

Or come for the whole event? Perhaps implore Tom to bring you an adoption.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 14:09 Thu 05 Apr 2018

Perhaps implore Tom to bring you an adoption.

Possible, but need to know by 16.25 latest..

Post by **flash_uk** » 14:30 Thu 05 Apr 2018

uncle tom wrote: ↑14:09 Thu 05 Apr 2018
Perhaps implore Tom to bring you an adoption.
Possible, but need to know by 16.25 latest..

Very kind but I can’t stay long. Much soberness needed early tomorrow morning!

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 15:52 Fri 06 Apr 2018

Unfortunately I only saw this thread today — and I was actually free last night! Swines: why did no-one email me or text me?

On a separate note, I would prefer to have the Xmas bask on Thursday 13th as I will be on family vacation on Thursday 20th. I'll start a thread to that effect.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 15:59 Fri 06 Apr 2018

So what was the mystery 1922 port?

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 16:03 Fri 06 Apr 2018

So what was the mystery 1922 port?

Warre - It's low shoulder level had left it significantly oxidised, but behind that was quite a solid wine, so I'm optimistic for the remaining bottles..

Post by **jdaw1** » 19:41 Fri 06 Apr 2018

AHB wrote: ↑15:52 Fri 06 Apr 2018Unfortunately I only saw this thread today — and I was actually free last night! Swines: why did no-one email me or text me?

Really? Really!

By ‘Private’ Message, to London tasters (which includes AHB), at 21:22 on Tue 03 Apr 2018, …

jdaw1 wrote:20:22 Tue 03 Apr 2018Subject: Excuse needed..

uncle tom wrote: ↑10:45 Thu 29 Mar 2018 At last December's 'turkey shoot' sale at Christies, I wasn't targeting lot 557

https://www.christies.com/Lotfinder/lot ... 7b5d5c16f5

I'm not under stocked on either '22 or '24 and the strangely low estimate rang alarm bells.

..but I wasn't going to let eleven bottles of near century old port go for just £850 hammer.

So I bid £900 - and won the lot..

Have looked at the bottles for the first time today, and the lot description didn't do them justice. All the bottles have perfectly intact wax capsules, and the colour looks promising. The worst level is on one of the '22s at low shoulder - not below low shoulder as billed. Only one of the '24s shows seepage (not two) and that's very minor.

- But who's the shipper?
Green Room, Boot & Flogger, Thursday 5^th April 2018.

Please reply in the thread.

I really do try to encourage things. Failure happens, but to criticise a (non-)failure of effort seems unjust. Further, you could subscribe to the Organising Tastings and Get-togethers forum.

(That message was deleted from my Sent box earlier today; if not received (I think = not read) then it might disappear from your Inbox.)

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:21 Fri 06 Apr 2018

Links:

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 16:43 Sat 07 Apr 2018

jdaw1 wrote: ↑19:41 Fri 06 Apr 2018I really do try to encourage things. Failure happens, but to criticise a (non-)failure of effort seems unjust. Further, you could subscribe to the Organising Tastings and Get-togethers forum.

(That message was deleted from my Sent box earlier today; if not received (I think = not read) then it might disappear from your Inbox.)

Yes, absolutely you did send me a PM. Yes absolutely I could be subscribed to the forums.

But I didn't log on and I'm not subscribed. Mea culpa.

So the fact is that you're still all swines. If only one of you had wondered why Bridgeman wasn't there and asked me.

Truth to be told, I am having to spend around 4 man-days per week on the b.f.t. at the moment and given I am also still working full time life is pretty damn tough. There may not be a b.f.t. next year unless things suddenly get a lot easier.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 16:46 Sat 07 Apr 2018

I should also remark that on the handful of occasions when I have drunk Warre 1922 from a bottle in good condition it has been an amazing port.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 19:24 Sat 07 Apr 2018

I should also remark that on the handful of occasions when I have drunk Warre 1922 from a bottle in good condition it has been an amazing port.

Fear not Alex - there are five more bottles, and this was the worst - I guarantee you'll be there again..

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 07:44 Mon 09 Apr 2018

uncle tom wrote: ↑19:24 Sat 07 Apr 2018
I should also remark that on the handful of occasions when I have drunk Warre 1922 from a bottle in good condition it has been an amazing port.
Fear not Alex - there are five more bottles, and this was the worst - I guarantee you'll be there again..

Thank you, that is most kind of you.