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Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 07:15 Tue 17 Jul 2018
by PhilW
The proposal:
I could be in London next Tuesday evening, and since it has been a while since I've been able to meet up with my port chums, it seems like a good opportunity to get one last offline in before the school holidays, if anyone is available?
The arrangements:
- Date: Tues 24th July
- Location: Boot & Flogger (green room, booked)
- Time: 6pm onwards
- Theme: "Something glorious" (bring a bottle to share)
Attendees:
- PW
- IDJ
- JDAW
- MPM
- CPR
- AHB
Current draft of
the placemats.

Re: Tues 24th July - Anyone available?
Posted: 12:50 Tue 17 Jul 2018
by idj123
Yes sir, me sir! Any particular theme Phil?
Re: Tues 24th July - Anyone available?
Posted: 21:10 Tue 17 Jul 2018
by jdaw1
Permission sought.
Re: Tues 24th July - Anyone available?
Posted: 21:12 Tue 17 Jul 2018
by flash_uk
Glorious suggestion. I’m in.
Re: Tues 24th July - Anyone available?
Posted: 07:13 Wed 18 Jul 2018
by DaveRL
Holiday, or I would seek permission. I'll acquire some of the finest French supermarket wine I can find (probably cheap tawny, sigh) and join you in spirit.
Re: Tues 24th July - Anyone available?
Posted: 10:33 Wed 18 Jul 2018
by PhilW
Excellent, we appear to be quorate. B&F green room booked, and details added to first post.
Regarding theme, given the wording of Mike's reply above, how about a simple "Something glorious" (1815s welcome, but not expected) ?
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 21:09 Wed 18 Jul 2018
by jdaw1
Permission granted.
Nothing glorious to hand. Hmm.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 07:44 Thu 19 Jul 2018
by PhilW
jdaw1 wrote: ↑21:09 Wed 18 Jul 2018Permission granted.
Excellent.
jdaw1 wrote: ↑21:09 Wed 18 Jul 2018Nothing glorious to hand. Hmm.
Hint: all* port is glorious; Magnums are glorious; Friends are glorious; if nothing else just bring yourself!
*subject to the Cruz '89 exception.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 07:46 Thu 19 Jul 2018
by PhilW
Currently looking like four of us; since they asked I'll submit a food order anyway. If anyone wants anything different from the default order please let me know asap, and I'll submit the food order tomorrow (Fri). Any addition people still welcome to join (subject to green room size limits) and either please include order/default if signing up today, otherwise we'll cope with any extra food/people on the night.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 09:14 Thu 19 Jul 2018
by CPR 1
I was trying to avoid London that week, but think it prudent to reassess. Yes please.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 12:55 Thu 19 Jul 2018
by idj123
Have now uploaded my standard food order which will apply for next week.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 15:38 Fri 20 Jul 2018
by PhilW
Food order submitted to B&F based on standard food orders.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 18:08 Sat 21 Jul 2018
by Alex Bridgeman
If there’s still space, please could I join you?
And Cruz ‘89 has fooled many an experienced palate. It just needs the right place at the right time. But I won’t bring a bottle of Cruz ‘89. I promise.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 07:46 Sun 22 Jul 2018
by PhilW
AHB wrote: ↑18:08 Sat 21 Jul 2018If there’s still space, please could I join you?
Absolutely (note that food order has already been submitted, so you'll need to order on the night - I'm sure they'll cope).
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 19:58 Sun 22 Jul 2018
by Alex Bridgeman
Are we bringing blind or declaring?
If declaring, I declare that I will bring a glorious double magnum of Cruz 1989.
Re: RE: Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 20:37 Sun 22 Jul 2018
by PhilW
AHB wrote:Are we bringing blind or declaring?
If declaring, I declare that I will bring a glorious double magnum of Cruz 1989.
Currently blind (though I have no strong feelings either way - except to avoid the... Unmentionable)
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 21:47 Sun 22 Jul 2018
by jdaw1
AHB wrote: ↑19:58 Sun 22 Jul 2018If declaring, I declare that I will bring a glorious double magnum of Cruz 1989.
Interesting. I had no prior evidence that Cz1989 had been bottled in a double-magnum.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 21:51 Sun 22 Jul 2018
by Alex Bridgeman
jdaw1 wrote: ↑21:47 Sun 22 Jul 2018
AHB wrote: ↑19:58 Sun 22 Jul 2018If declaring, I declare that I will bring a glorious double magnum of Cruz 1989.
Interesting. I had no prior evidence that Cz1989 had been bottled in a double-magnum.
Well that would be because
(a) you’ve never visited the Cruz cellars and
(b) you didn’t get the big bottle rules changed until after the Cruz ‘89 had been released
So that means you missed out on all the large format Cruz ‘89 that you could have been buying and drinking.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 22:37 Sun 22 Jul 2018
by jdaw1
AHB wrote: ↑21:51 Sun 22 Jul 2018(b) you didn’t get the big bottle rules changed until after the Cruz ‘89 had been released
But, in theory at least, it could have been bottled but not sold.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 14:46 Mon 23 Jul 2018
by jdaw1
I have nothing to hand that is satisfactory. Would it be possible to adopt?
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 18:23 Mon 23 Jul 2018
by flash_uk
jdaw1 wrote: ↑14:46 Mon 23 Jul 2018
I have nothing to hand that is satisfactory. Would it be possible to adopt?
I can dig something out for you.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 18:45 Mon 23 Jul 2018
by Alex Bridgeman
jdaw1 wrote: ↑14:46 Mon 23 Jul 2018
I have nothing to hand that is satisfactory. Would it be possible to adopt?
I was debating whether to bring two bottles. Why don’t I do so and one can be JDAW’s adoptee.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 19:10 Mon 23 Jul 2018
by flash_uk
AHB wrote: ↑18:45 Mon 23 Jul 2018
jdaw1 wrote: ↑14:46 Mon 23 Jul 2018
I have nothing to hand that is satisfactory. Would it be possible to adopt?
I was debating whether to bring two bottles. Why don’t I do so and one can be JDAW’s adoptee.
Okey Dokey.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 19:25 Mon 23 Jul 2018
by jdaw1
AHB wrote: ↑18:45 Mon 23 Jul 2018Why don’t I do so and one can be JDAW’s adoptee.
Thank you.
I’ll make the paperwork.
Edit:
the placemats added to first post.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 20:04 Mon 23 Jul 2018
by PhilW
jdaw1 wrote: ↑19:25 Mon 23 Jul 2018
AHB wrote: ↑18:45 Mon 23 Jul 2018Why don’t I do so and one can be JDAW’s adoptee.
Thank you.
I’ll make the paperwork.
Edit:
the placemats added to first post.
Thanks Julian - I was going to do that this evening, but only just back now.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 21:04 Mon 23 Jul 2018
by jdaw1
PhilW wrote: ↑20:04 Mon 23 Jul 2018Thanks Julian - I was going to do that this evening, but only just back now.
Quite simple, but nonetheless, please check for errors.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 06:27 Tue 24 Jul 2018
by PhilW
jdaw1 wrote: ↑21:04 Mon 23 Jul 2018Quite simple, but nonetheless, please check for errors.
All looks correct.
I should arrive at 6; I can print and bring unless anyone else will be arriving earlier.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 09:48 Tue 24 Jul 2018
by flash_uk
I can print...might not get there until around 7 though...
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 12:05 Tue 24 Jul 2018
by idj123
My eta will be 6.30pm.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 12:53 Tue 24 Jul 2018
by Alex Bridgeman
I should arrive around 6pm but can’t print.
I decanted both bottles last night about 11pm and have kept them in the fridge or an insulated container as much as possible.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 13:17 Tue 24 Jul 2018
by PhilW
I have decanted (2pm) and smells... glorious (what else!).
Have printed, and will be there ~6pm.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 13:38 Tue 24 Jul 2018
by jdaw1
Great theme.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 15:07 Tue 24 Jul 2018
by PhilW
Train cancelled (no driver). Alternate route train cancelled (breakdown). Next train running late, will miss connection. I may be slightly late...
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 16:48 Tue 24 Jul 2018
by PhilW
Update - should be there by 6.30
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 18:07 Tue 24 Jul 2018
by Monkey
Are we ready to guess and vote yet?
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 18:11 Tue 24 Jul 2018
by Alex Bridgeman
Much laughter.
We’ll let you know when we’re ready.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 18:33 Tue 24 Jul 2018
by Monkey
Well I'm ready so here goes:
WOTN Votes:
3pts - MPM
2pts AHB
1pt PW
Tasting notes:
PW - lovely rich colour, perfectly mature with strawberry, vanilla and a slight herb note on the nose. Delicate and perfectly mature. Warre 77, obviously.
IDJ - very dark and a bit closed on the nose. Huge mouthful of dark fruits and tannin - I'm thinking Dow 1980
JDAW - 32.5% opaque, clear rim and very dusty nose, perhaps with some pepper? Nice, but not getting better - drink up! Sandeman 1958
MPM - rich golden red with violets on the nose. A huge mouthful of loveliness - Taylor 1963
CPR - {corked?} Maybe not. Good colour but very dull nose, which makes it very difficult for The Monkey to guess. Full and rich on the palate but something not quite right. Niepoort 1970?
AHB - great colour with a delicious nose of gently softened bunberries left to cool in a slightly humid garden shed. A sparkle of Japanese candy floss truffle in the mid-palate followed by a long slow pause while I eat some of my steak. Has the nose changed? How humid was that shed? Did I tell Elizabeth I'll be home late tonight? Concentrate, the guys want to vote! Back to those bunberries - delicious mythical flavours with a backbone of tannin that faded four decades ago. A fabulous Port with a very long finish. So long that I have to keep everyone waiting until I've almost missed my train! - Unmistakable. This is obviously Taylor 1927.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 19:28 Tue 24 Jul 2018
by Alex Bridgeman
Voting has finished for WOTN. The monkey’s votes were nonsense. The monkey clearly has no taste.
WOTN votes (excluding the monkey) were PW 15, CPR 7.5, MPM 5.5, AHB 4.5, JDAW 3, IDJ 0.5.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 19:45 Tue 24 Jul 2018
by Alex Bridgeman
The monkey’s prose won much praise, but his ability to identify ports tasted blind is very poor — and scored zero. Everyone else scored 1 or 2 points.
But we thank the monkey for his help.
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 20:05 Tue 24 Jul 2018
by DRT
I think you will find that The Monkey got all the right notes, just not necessarily in the right order

Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 20:13 Tue 24 Jul 2018
by Christopher
Great report from the Monkey! Glad you had a great night with some World Class Port!
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 07:49 Thu 26 Jul 2018
by PhilW
Re: Tues 24th July - Bring a bottle to share
Posted: 15:32 Thu 26 Jul 2018
by PhilW
The monkey did a fantastic job, had us all laughing (especially with the tasting notes, very well observed and written), even if he didn't score any points on guessing the wines; his efforts were appreciated.
Talking of the "What is it?" scoring, this is the first night I remember where nobody (except the monkey) scored zero; everyone scored 1 or 2 points, which considering the small number of wines present is above our usual average, I believe!