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VE (etc) Day Tasting - Weds 8 Sept 2021

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During idle discussion at the 2000 Zombie Apocalypse tasting (which is not unlike the predictions relating to Y2K), I proposed a tasting related to celebration of 1945 events.

Whilst VPs from 1945 would clearly be a preference for this, it was suggested that extending to VPs from 1939 to 1945 would be a reasonable expansion.

Should this not elicit sufficient bottles, expansion to include the post 1945 rationing years might be appropriate.
Note - all food rationing in Britain ended 4 July 1954.

Date now Wednesday 8th September 2021 in one of the private dining rooms at 67 Pall Mall.

If you weren't previously on the list, but would like to be, please speak up as I suspect we will get some more unavailables.

From an anniversary perspective, the 8th September 2021 is (according to Wikipedia) the 75th Anniversary of Bulgaria being declared a People's Republic after a referendum. Possibly not as good as the 75th Anniversary of VE Day, but still worth celebrating... But not with Bulgarian wine.

ATTENDEES & OFFERINGS
All confirmed for 8/9/21
  1. NAC - Ferreira 45
  2. CPR - Martinez 45
  3. MPM - Sandeman 42
  4. GEAG - Dow 50
  5. HTWH - Taylor 45
  6. JDAW - Mackenzie 48
  7. TC - Sandeman 45
  8. AHB - Fonseca Guimaraens 42
  9. SCD - Tuke Holdsworth 47
  10. ME - Taylor 48
Withdrawn:
  • Potential Guest - TBC
  • CMAG - Cockburn 47 (awaiting confirmation)
Draft of the placemats.
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I'm in. Can bring a Ramos Pinto 45
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I am up for this - Mz 45
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I would be keen but I am ’45-less. Would adopt if anyone had some spare, and will keen an eye out for some.
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I would be keen but am similarly 45-less. would be prepared to adopt, and will similarly hunt. If it is extended, from the rationing years I have just a single bottle of Dow 1950.
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Have updated top post to include potentials.

Will consider dates/venues at a later point when the future is clearer.
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i would be keen but i would have to adopt or hunt as well.

I have a bottle of G48 if we are going for the rationing years.
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Yes please, subject to finding a bottle.
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Yes
I have a suitable bottle
Great theme!
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I'm definitely up for this. Perhaps a bottle of Fonseca Guimaraens 1942?
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2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
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AHB wrote: 22:03 Wed 18 Mar 2020 I'm definitely up for this. Perhaps a bottle of Fonseca Guimaraens 1942?
Perfect.
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Christopher wrote: 21:51 Wed 18 Mar 2020 Yes
I have a suitable bottle
Great theme!
Please share the identity of your offering.
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Probably it will be to early for me to travel . We'll see...
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/2alph wrote: 12:57 Fri 20 Mar 2020 Probably it will be to early for me to travel . We'll see...
Whilst VE Day celebrations are scheduled for 8th May, I would suggest that the probability of this tasting taking place then is pretty much zero. Once some degree of normality returns I’ll suggest some dates for later in the year.
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VJ Day falls on 15 August.
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Will W. wrote: 19:20 Sat 21 Mar 2020 VJ Day falls on 15 August.
Good call.
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I've provisionally got one of the private dining rooms at 67 Pall Mall booked for Monday 14th September.

Could all who previously expressed an interest please confirm availability and if not already done so what their offering is.

I suspect we'll need to limit this to 8 people, but if it looks like it'll be significantly fewer then I'll postpone until later in the year.
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Works for me :CC0000:
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Works for me
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Cant make it because i have to go in quarantine when i travel to England.
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Works for me. Still haven't found anything more age-appropriate than the Dow 1950, however.
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/2alph wrote: 18:31 Wed 05 Aug 2020 Cant make it because i have to go in quarantine when i travel to England.
Sorry - hopefully you'll be able to make a future event.
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Yes that date works - thank you
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Would you be able to put me on as reserve - 1945 Ferreira
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forest26 wrote: 12:53 Mon 17 Aug 2020 Would you be able to put me on as reserve - 1945 Ferreira
Done.

If promoted from reserve (which is reasonably likely) might you have an alternative bottle? We've already got a Ferreira 45, and whilst a comparison would be interesting suspect the general preference would be for greater variety. If not, don't worry.

Am at 67 on Wednesday and going to investigate the maximum number they'll let us have. Hopefully we can do 9 or 10.
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Not, I suspect, an original thought; nor, in the context, should I be quite as surprised by this as I was; but I have been struck, in my unsuccessful hunting, by quite how few VPs there are from the war years, other than 1945 itself. Colheitas and garrafeiras, yes; but not VPs. No VP in 1939 or 1940; just the Constantino in 1941; Fonseca Guimaeraens, Graham, Hooper, Niepoort, Noval, Rebello Valente in 1942; and just Sandeman in 1943 and 1944.
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winesecretary wrote: 13:42 Tue 18 Aug 2020 Not, I suspect, an original thought; nor, in the context, should I be quite as surprised by this as I was; but I have been struck, in my unsuccessful hunting, by quite how few VPs there are from the war years, other than 1945 itself. Colheitas and garrafeiras, yes; but not VPs. No VP in 1939 or 1940; just the Constantino in 1941; Fonseca Guimaeraens, Graham, Hooper, Niepoort, Noval, Rebello Valente in 1942; and just Sandeman in 1943 and 1944.
...and Sandeman in 1942.
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...point well made. Further researches on VWAP also suggest Dow, Diez Hermanos, Taylor, Feuerheerd made 1942s...
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I'm please to confirm the new date
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Sorry to mess everyone around, but have just realised that my wife is doing jury service on the 14th, so I now can’t do this or 21st.

Currently checking room availability & will update shortly.

Cheers
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nac wrote: 11:16 Mon 24 Aug 2020 Sorry to mess everyone around, but have just realised that my wife is doing jury service on the 14th, so I now can’t do this or 21st.

Currently checking room availability & will update shortly.

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Right, how does Monday 28th September sound? Have booked the Lutyens Room.

Please re-confirm.
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Good for me! [By which I mean, I am available on the 28th September and the Dow 1950 is sitting in my London wine 'fridge waiting for the occasion.]
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Alas I don’t have a suitable bottle, and am unlikely to find one within a wife-allowed budget. Enjoy, but without me.
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Sorry. I can’t make 28th September so will need to drop out.
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nac wrote: 16:50 Mon 17 Aug 2020
forest26 wrote: 12:53 Mon 17 Aug 2020 Would you be able to put me on as reserve - 1945 Ferreira
Done.

If promoted from reserve (which is reasonably likely) might you have an alternative bottle? We've already got a Ferreira 45, and whilst a comparison would be interesting suspect the general preference would be for greater variety. If not, don't worry.

Am at 67 on Wednesday and going to investigate the maximum number they'll let us have. Hopefully we can do 9 or 10.
Sorry - should have read the first post more carefully.
one of S45 or Borges45 as have not tasted these in the last few years. Also have some others
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forest26 wrote: 11:43 Tue 25 Aug 2020 one of S45 or Borges45 as have not tasted these in the last few years. Also have some others
Tony

Given a choice then S45, as would be interesting to taste alongside the S42.

Are you available for the new date?

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nac wrote:
forest26 wrote: 11:43 Tue 25 Aug 2020 one of S45 or Borges45 as have not tasted these in the last few years. Also have some others
Tony

Given a choice then S45, as would be interesting to taste alongside the S42.

Are you available for the new date?

Neil
Yes - Mon28 would be ok. Let me know if there is any space


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I'm now OK for 28th
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I am good for the 28th :D
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there is a good chance that i can make the new date, will confirm shortly.
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Unless told otherwise that we can't do this I'm proceeding.
We have the Lutyen's Room at 67 which will spaciously take eight, so at present that's the limit.
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Neil, I would appreciate guidance. We are into ages of port about which I have almost no experience. Do you want the ports to be delivered to 67 PM in advance to rest? I suspect they won't need much decant time, but also fear that double-decanting and then travelling might be a bit brutal for them.
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winesecretary wrote: 11:11 Mon 07 Sep 2020 Neil, I would appreciate guidance. We are into ages of port about which I have almost no experience. Do you want the ports to be delivered to 67 PM in advance to rest? I suspect they won't need much decant time, but also fear that double-decanting and then travelling might be a bit brutal for them.
Good point.

I'm unlikely to be in London the week before, so will probably have to drop my bottles off midday-ish on the day. I'll ask them to decant a couple of hours beforehand.

However, if anybody wants to drop bottles off in advance then please do so, but let me know so I can ensure 67 are ready to accept.
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JDAW now attending with Mackenzie 1948.
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forest26 wrote: 10:01 Wed 02 Sep 2020
nac wrote:
forest26 wrote: 11:43 Tue 25 Aug 2020 one of S45 or Borges45 as have not tasted these in the last few years. Also have some others
Tony

Given a choice then S45, as would be interesting to taste alongside the S42.

Are you available for the new date?

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Yes - Mon28 would be ok. Let me know if there is any space
Tony - yes, you’ve got a space. Will assume you’re bringing S45 unless informed otherwise.
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Sorry for late response
If ok I will bring a CK 47
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Or if the G48 above is not bought I can bring a bottle of that instead, it may be a T48 but I won’t know till I take the wax off bad see the original seal
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Christopher wrote: 08:22 Tue 08 Sep 2020 Sorry for late response
If ok I will bring a CK 47
Perfect. I'll assume the Ck47 for now.
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Ok great
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Draft of placemats added to first post. (link removed awaiting new date).
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