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This post to hold plans as and when agreed.

Date: Tue 16 Nov 2021

Where: The Red Room, Boot & Flogger. (Reservation acknowledged and accepted by Gary at 15:07 on Wed 31 Mar 2021. Confirmed by the computer Tue 07 Sep 2021, “14 people on Tuesday 16 November 5pm to 11pm … reference: DMN-16738297119”.)

People:

1. JDAW;
2. SCD;
3. HTWH;
4. TC;
5. AHB;
6. CPR;
7. MPM;
8. ZDR;
9. WHW;
10. RON;
11. IDJ;
12. GEAG;
13. NAC;
14. CMAG.

Waitlist:

• GEE.

Bottles available, a subset of which chosen:

1. Burmester — WHW;
2. Cá = Cálem — JMK, HWH;
3. Ck = Cockburn — IDJ, HWH;
4. Cr = Croft — TC, HWH;
5. Df = Delaforce — IDJ;
6. D = Dow — JMK, WHW, CPR, GEAG, GEE;
7. EV = Eira Velha — CPR, HWH;
8. Fr = Ferreira — WHW;
9. F = Fonseca — GEE, TC, PW (inconvenient);
10. GC = Gould Campbell — GEAG, NAC;
11. G = Graham — JMK, WHW, CPR, PW (inconvenient), GEE, GEE (magnum), HWH, HWH (magnum);
12. K = Kopke — CPR;
13. Mz = Martinez — AHB, HWH;
14. Ni = Niepoort — WHW, HWH, PW cask sample in ½;
15. N = Noval — JMK, GEE;
16. NN = Noval Nacional — TC;
17. Ps = Passadouro — NAC, HWH;
18. P&W = Paxton & Whitfield — AHB;
19. QH = Quarles Harris — HWH;
20. RP = Ramos Pinto — WHW, GEE;
21. RPE = Ramos Pinto Ervamoira — CPR;
22. Ra = Romaneira — WHW;
23. Rs = Rosa — GEAG, PW, NAC;
24. RO = Royal Oporto — PW;
25. S = Sandeman — JMK, HWH;
26. SW = Smith Woodhouse — GEAG;
27. Ts = Tesco (QH?) — JMK;
28. T = Taylor — JMK, GEAG, GEE (magnum), NAC, NAC (magnum);
29. V = Vesuvio — GEAG, PW (inconvenient), GEE;
30. W = Warre — GEAG, PW (inconvenient), HWH, HWH (double-magnum).

Current draft of the placemats.

My recollection of the 1994 disagrees with that of others whose judgement I respect. You know what this means.

Tuesday 16th November 2021?

Edit — previous 1994 horizontals:

• 11 June 2019 (review, planning, placemats);
• 04 Mar 2014 (review, planning);
• 08 Sep 2009 (review, planning, placemats);
• 11 Dec 2007 (review, planning, placemats).

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How big a tasting? The binding constraint might be table size. The Red Room table is tight with fourteen × 3 × A4. If there are nineteen glasses we can use A3 + A4, underlapping the A4 by ≈64mm. (Radius ≈ 118.978pt ≈ 1.65″ ≈ 41.97mm.)



Or twenty-one on A2 trimmed to be 1″ = 25.4mm taller than A4, and 86.0mm ≈ 3.39″ less wide than 3×A4. (Radius ≈ 122.841pt ≈ 1.71″ ≈ 43.34mm.)



Original plan was nineteen; later upgraded to twenty-one.

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Which Ports?

This part of the post will be edited as the set of available Ports changes.

Currently available are 30 different 1994s: B, Cá, Ck, Cr, Df, D, EV, Fr, F, GC, G, K, Mz, Ni, N, NN, Ps, QH, RP, RPE, Ra, Rs, RO, S, SW, Ts, T, V, W.

Wine-Searcher suggests that availability is:
Good — Ck, Cr, D, F (expensive), G, QH, Rs, SW, T, V, W;
Some — Df, GC, Ni, N (expensive), NN (expensive), Ps, RP, S, Sk;
Little — B, Cá, EV, Fr, K, RPE, Ra, RO, Ts.

• Exclude NN on grounds of cost.
• So prioritise the RP-RPE pair over the N-NN pair (also see comment of GEAG).
• The purported Skeffington has already been drunk (!), and has been replaced with Kopke.
• General agreement to remove pre-Symington Cockburn, it being replaced with Cálem.
• Team seemed keen on Mz; and I on Fr.

Updated selection: Cá, Cr, Df, D, Fr, F, GC, G, K, Mz, Ni, Ps, QH, RP, RPE, Rs, SW, S, T, V, W.

Comment? Agreement? Objections?

Yes please...will check bottles

yes please

Yes please

Dates switched Thu to Tue.

Yes please.

yes please

yup

Justin says "yes please" but he's blocked from accessing TPF.

I'm in.

Yes, provisionally. It is difficult to predict my international travel availability this far in advance.

Yes, provisionally!

Ian Johns says yes please

George and Neil also are available and say yes please...

Full. What bottles of ’94 do people have available?

I have Dow, Gould Campbell, Quinta de la Rosa, Smith Woodhouse, Taylor, Vesuvio, Warre

jdaw1 wrote: ↑21:32 Thu 18 Mar 2021 Full. What bottles of ’94 do people have available?

Ramos Pinto - Quinta da Ervamoira, G, D, Erica Velha, Kopke

Dow's
Ramos Pinto
Burmester
Ferreira
Graham's
Romaneira

Piles of the Graham's, Burmester and Romaneira. The rest are single bottles, according to my cellar list.

Justin sends that he has: Cálem, Dow, Graham, Noval, Sandeman, Tesco, Taylor.

RO94, Ni94 cask sample in half bottle; W/F/V/G currently unopened in offsite but potentially possible.

oh and QdlR94

Dow
Fonseca
Graham (750, magnum)
Ramos Pinto
Taylor (in magnum only)
Quinta do Noval
Quinta do Vesuvio

I may have others, but those are the ones that come to mind immediately.

Edited the above to add: Quinta do Noval

Yes please.