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Posted: **11:56 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

Have tried a number of the 97s and quite liked them, so thought a tasting of more might be nice. They're 25 in 2022 so why not?

RESCHEDULED - Red Room, B&F booked for Tuesday 24th May 2022.

Attendees [has...]:

NAC [Ch, D, F, GC, QH, NS, Ps (mag), Rs, SV (hlv), T, W] - confirmed for 24/5
AHB [BBR (mag), G, Mz, MzEV, SW, V] - confirmed for 24/5
GEAG [D, F, Os, Pç, VDM, Ni, V] - confirmed for 24/5
MPM [D, G, Mz] - confirmed for 24/5
JDAW [RP] - confirmed for 24/5
TC - confirmed for 24/5
CPR [D, F, V, B] - confirmed for 24/5
IDJ [D, G, RP?, GC, V, CaF] - confirmed for 24/5
RichN [D] - confirmed for 24/5
THRA [N, NS] - confirmed for 24/5
WillW [RP, Br, B, SV, Nv, Os, Pç, Pt, ROC] - confirmed for 24/5
HTWH [GC, G, D, Ni, F (mag)] - confirmed for 24/5
PhilW
CMAG

Reserves:
None

Please indicate what you have available.

The Book and associated Addendum record the following [comments re availability, etc.]:

Desired/required
Avoid/exclude

BBR (Warre) [not needed if we're having Warre?]
Burmester
Calem
Calem Foz
Calem Sagrado
Churchill [not in The Book, but exists]
Cockburn
Croft Roeda
Delaforce Corte
Dow
Ferreira
Feuerheerd
Fonseca
Gould Campbell
Graham
Hooper
Kopke
Krohn
Krohn Retiro Novo
Martinez
Martinez Eira Velha
Morgan
Niepoort [potential VA issues]
Niepoort Passadouro
Noval
Noval Nacional [rare, £1300+/bt, suggest we ignore this]
Noval Silval
Offley Boa Vista
Quarles Harris
Ramos Pinto
Royal Oporto
Royal Oporto Carvalhas
Sandeman
Sandeman Vau
Smith Woodhouse
Smith Woodhouse Madalena
Taylor
Taylor Vargellas Vinha Velha [rare, £300+/bt, suggest we ignore this]
Vesuvio
Warre

Current draft of the food order.

Current draft of the placemats.

Posted: **11:57 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

The line-up:

Taylor - NAC for Team adoption
Fonseca - NAC for Team adoption
Quarles Harris - NAC for Team adoption
Warre - NAC
Martinez - AHB
Vale Donna Maria - GEAG
Sandeman Vau - MPW adopting from WillW
Ramos Pinto - JDAW
Smith Woodhouse - TC
Vesuvio - CPR
Gould Campbell - IDJ
Dow - RichN
Noval - THRA for Team adoption
Noval Silval - THRA
Burmester - WillW
Graham - HTWH
Croft Roeda - PhilW
Vale da Figueira - CMAG adopting from AHB

Placemats to be updated...

Posted: **11:58 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

Yes please.

Posted: **12:12 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

Yes please

Posted: **12:12 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

yes please

Posted: **12:15 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

Yes please!

Posted: **12:27 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

Confirming officially here having said yes to Neil in person.

Posted: **13:10 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

Yes please

Posted: **14:10 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

Yes please! I think I only have Dow but as long as I'm in the country I'd be up for this.

Posted: **14:16 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

Yes please. I have a Fonseca and Graham’s available.

Posted: **14:18 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

Yes please. Will check what I have.

Posted: **14:27 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

Sounds good, yes please.

Posted: **14:41 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

CPR 1 wrote: ↑12:12 Mon 07 Jun 2021yes please

I should have D,F or V easily available. and apparently some Burmester if I look carefully!

Posted: **15:28 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

yes please

Posted: **15:58 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

I agree we should ignore TVVV and NN, more than enough options already.

Posted: **17:00 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

hadge wrote: ↑15:28 Mon 07 Jun 2021yes please

...and that's 14.

Reserve list open.

Posted: **17:03 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

3.5 hours to fill a tasting. Almost sedate.

Posted: **17:13 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

In the interests of sanity and liver function I propose that we limit this to 16 bottles.

What should definitely be included and what should definitely be avoided?

Posted: **18:33 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

Checking what I have was a bit of a surprise - not in storage I have only the Vesuvio 1997.

Available from duty paid storage I also have BB&R Selection (Warre) in magnum, Martinez, Martinez Eira Velha, Graham, Smith Woodhouse.

Posted: **18:34 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

I'd prefer to avoid the Niepoort - just too unreliable

Posted: **19:54 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑18:34 Mon 07 Jun 2021 I'd prefer to avoid the Niepoort - just too unreliable

I don't know what you're talking about. It's completely reliable! It is reliably tainted by VA so powerful that it bothers even me.

Posted: **20:45 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

nac wrote: ↑17:13 Mon 07 Jun 2021In the interests of sanity and liver function

An interest of only a minority of us.

Posted: **22:29 Mon 07 Jun 2021**

jdaw1 wrote: ↑20:45 Mon 07 Jun 2021
nac wrote: ↑17:13 Mon 07 Jun 2021In the interests of sanity and liver function
An interest of only a minority of us.

I am in that minority!

I’d rather have two tastings each of 14-16 different Ports than one tasting of 28-32 different wines.

Posted: **01:01 Tue 08 Jun 2021**

Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑22:29 Mon 07 Jun 2021
I am in that minority!

I’d rather have two tastings each of 14-16 different Ports than one tasting of 28-32 different wines.

I agree with this.

Posted: **06:44 Tue 08 Jun 2021**

I also agree. Albeit in saying so noting the possibility of two tastings separated by a week. Possibly a 'minors' tasting (e.g. the Osborne, Pocas and Quinta Vale Dona Maria) and a 'majors' (D,F,V etc.) tasting?

Posted: **13:49 Tue 08 Jun 2021**

Please add me to the reserve list. I have (apologies for not knowing the abbreviations) Ramos Pinto, Barros, Burmester, Sandeman Vau, Quinta da Nossa Senhora, Osborne, Pocas Junior, Quinta do Portal and Quinta das Carvalhas.

Posted: **16:50 Tue 08 Jun 2021**

Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑22:29 Mon 07 Jun 2021I’d rather have two tastings each of 14-16 different Ports than one tasting of 28-32 different wines.

Agreed. But one tasting of eighteen or nineteen would work. (Four on A4 plus fifteen on A3 ⇒ diameter ≈ 83.9mm ≈ 3.30″.)

winesecretary wrote: ↑06:44 Tue 08 Jun 2021Albeit in saying so noting the possibility of two tastings separated by a week.

Works even better.

Will W. wrote: ↑13:49 Tue 08 Jun 2021the abbreviations

Abbreviations: RP, Br, B, SV, Nv, Os, Pç, Pt, ROC.

Posted: **19:04 Tue 08 Jun 2021**

jdaw1 wrote: ↑16:50 Tue 08 Jun 2021
Will W. wrote: ↑13:49 Tue 08 Jun 2021the abbreviations
Abbreviations: RP, Br, B, SV, Nv, Os, Pç, Pt, ROC.

Duly saved - with thanks.

Posted: **22:17 Tue 08 Jun 2021**

Will W. wrote: ↑13:49 Tue 08 Jun 2021 Please add me to the reserve list. I have (apologies for not knowing the abbreviations) Ramos Pinto, Barros, Burmester, Sandeman Vau, Quinta da Nossa Senhora, Osborne, Pocas Junior, Quinta do Portal and Quinta das Carvalhas.

Done.

Given how far ahead this is being arranged I would suggest there’s a fair probability you’ll escape the bench.

Posted: **13:27 Thu 28 Oct 2021**

Please add me to the reserve list for this event. Many thanks.

Posted: **21:34 Thu 28 Oct 2021**

Constandia wrote: ↑13:27 Thu 28 Oct 2021Please add me to the reserve list for this event. Many thanks.

Done.

Posted: **11:44 Mon 29 Nov 2021**

Assuming we’re not in the midst of another Zombie Apocalypse and this is able to go ahead, then probably worth getting people to reconfirm availability and update on bottles.

No particular rush, but would like to get most of the organisation sorted by the end of December.

Posted: **11:54 Mon 29 Nov 2021**

I have the same seven previously notified - one bottle of each apart from the Vesuvio of which I have an OWC- until this tasting I'm not diving into this vintage further because I don't know anything about it!

Posted: **12:11 Mon 29 Nov 2021**

Assuming it is all good to come and play I would like to reconfirm and offer a Smith Woodhouse for the proceedings.

Posted: **12:50 Mon 29 Nov 2021**

I am still keen to join for this, but travel is slightly tricky - I was wondering if anyone has a spare bed or sofa that I could crash on around the extremities of West-ish London (ideally somewhere with some parking). Any offers very gratefully received!

<Edit> I still have the case of Dow and now also have access to Vesuvio but that's at Seckford so would prefer to offer the Dow.

Posted: **13:17 Mon 29 Nov 2021**

Doggett wrote: ↑12:11 Mon 29 Nov 2021 Assuming it is all good to come and play I would like to reconfirm and offer a Smith Woodhouse for the proceedings.

Excellent. We'll go with your SW.

Posted: **17:19 Mon 29 Nov 2021**

I have Pç for the 'minors' event mooted for the following week should it go ahead on Thursday 29th January...

Saúde

Posted: **19:39 Mon 29 Nov 2021**

re confirming

I have D,F or V easily available

Posted: **20:46 Mon 29 Nov 2021**

Pretty sure that I have at least G, RP and GC readily available.

Posted: **23:08 Mon 29 Nov 2021**

Screagle wrote: ↑17:19 Mon 29 Nov 2021 I have Pç for the 'minors' event mooted for the following week should it go ahead on Thursday 29th January...

Saúde

Idea was mooted by others. I have no plans for this at present, but doesn’t stop someone else organising it. However, suspect that sufficient bottles for two distinct events won’t be forthcoming.

Posted: **23:36 Mon 29 Nov 2021**

I, having mooted it, do not propose to organise it. Not after the 1980 horizontal. Not even as an impromptu educational event post covid can I see 'likely slightly disappointing ports' as being a popular event...

Posted: **10:28 Tue 30 Nov 2021**

rich_n wrote: ↑12:50 Mon 29 Nov 2021 I am still keen to join for this, but travel is slightly tricky - I was wondering if anyone has a spare bed or sofa that I could crash on around the extremities of West-ish London (ideally somewhere with some parking). Any offers very gratefully received!

<Edit> I still have the case of Dow and now also have access to Vesuvio but that's at Seckford so would prefer to offer the Dow.

Assuming you do attend, will include your Dow.

Posted: **10:50 Tue 30 Nov 2021**

Perhaps I could be added to the reserves? I have SW and Pç currently available as well as SV in magnum.

Saúde

Posted: **12:06 Tue 30 Nov 2021**

Screagle wrote: ↑10:50 Tue 30 Nov 2021 Perhaps I could be added to the reserves? I have SW and Pç currently available as well as SV in magnum.

Saúde

Done.

Posted: **12:28 Tue 30 Nov 2021**

I reconfirm. I'll check which wines I have from the vintage later.

Posted: **13:36 Tue 30 Nov 2021**

I think I'm a solid maybe now. I'd also have to adopt. Perhaps offer my seat to someone who can make it and provide something?

Posted: **17:26 Tue 30 Nov 2021**

akzy wrote: ↑13:36 Tue 30 Nov 2021 I think I'm a solid maybe now. I'd also have to adopt. Perhaps offer my seat to someone who can make it and provide something?

OK - I'll promote Will, but put you at the top of the reserves in case you can make it.

Will - space is yours if you want it?

Posted: **17:38 Wed 01 Dec 2021**

Have now acquired some Sandeman, so would be interesting to taste it alongside the Vau.
I think WillW has this in bottle so hopefully he'll be able to attend?

Posted: **17:45 Wed 01 Dec 2021**

nac wrote: ↑17:38 Wed 01 Dec 2021 Have now acquired some Sandeman, so would be interesting to taste it alongside the Vau.
I think WillW has this in bottle so hopefully he'll be able to attend?

I have had it added to my calendar and shall bring the Vau as well as whatever else is needed. Simply let me know in due course.

Posted: **17:51 Wed 01 Dec 2021**

Will W. wrote: ↑17:45 Wed 01 Dec 2021
nac wrote: ↑17:38 Wed 01 Dec 2021 Have now acquired some Sandeman, so would be interesting to taste it alongside the Vau.
I think WillW has this in bottle so hopefully he'll be able to attend?
I have had it added to my calendar and shall bring the Vau as well as whatever else is needed. Aside from the Vau (in full and halves), my cellar list shows Ramos Pinto, Barros, Burmester, Quinta da Nossa Senhora, Osborne, Pocas Junior, Portal and Carvalhas. Simply let me know in due course.

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