1985 Horizontal - 16 March 2022

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winesecretary
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1985 Horizontal - 16 March 2022

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Boot and Flogger booked. 1830 start
  1. GEAG [Sainsbury's, Feuerheerd, Taylor's]
  2. OJW [guest of GEAG] [adopting Graham from GEAG]
  3. Will W. [Ramos Pinto, Pocas]
  4. jdaw1 [Fonseca]
  5. M.Charlton [adopting Gould Campbell from GEAG]
  6. nac [Noval]
  7. CPR1 [Martinez]
  8. HTWH [Smith Woodhouse]
  9. akzy [adopting Rebello Valente from GEAG]
  10. idj123 [Ca]
  11. Screagle [OBV]
  12. JB [guest of nac] [adopting Churchill from GEAG]
  13. KAJG [guest of jdaw1] [adopting Warre from jdaw1]
  14. Guest of HTWH [adopting Dow from HTWH]
Who has what

GC - GEAG, Will W, Screagle, CPR1, HTWH
Ch - GEAG, nac, Screagle, jdaw1, HTWH
F - GEAG, nac, Will W, Screagle, jdaw1, CPR1, HTWH
G - GEAG, Will W, Screagle, jdaw1, HTWH
T - GEAG, Will W, Screagle, CPR1, HTWH
Fd - GEAG
RV - GEAG, Will W
Sains - GEAG
Mz - jdaw1, CPR1
N - nac, Screagle
OBV - Screagle
Cá - Will W, Screagle, idj123, HTWH
RP - Will W. Screagle
Pç - Will W
SW - HTWH
W - nac, Screagle, jdaw1, HTWH
D - Screagle, jdaw1, CPR1, HTWH

QH - CPR1
Ni - Will W
B Will W
Bo - Will W
KSL - Wil W
Hooper - nac, CPR1
In - Will W
Fr - Will W
RO - nac
Co - HTWH
MG - HTWH

Current draft of the placemats.
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I previously wrote:

It has been 5 years and 355 days since the last 1985 horizontal. Might we be interested in another?

My records suggest I have Gould Campbell, Churchill, Fonseca, Graham, Taylor, Feuerheerd, Rebello Valente, and Sainsbury's (Quinta Dona Matilde).

The last three of these did not feature in the previous 1985 tasting. There appear to be no notes for the Sainsbury's or the Rebello Valente but I cannot promise that any of those three would sweep the awards board.

I am not sure I would get many takers for a 'minor 1985s' tasting (or a 'minor 1980s' tasting). Perhaps we could go for the 'ones likely to be strong, but with some more obscure comparators'.

LTBS might cover Warre, Fonseca, Graham, Gould Campbell, Offley, Taylor, Churchill and possibly Sandeman and Ramos Pinto.

In the conversation thread, rather than the organising tasting thread, for now, for comment. If there is enthusiasm, might set this up for 16th or 23rd March 2022.
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I'm in, if and when a decision is taken to firm this up. If my cellar list is up to date, I have Ferreira, Ramos Pinto, Graham, Fonseca, Infantado, Pocas Junior, Burmester, Calem, Borges (to my shame), Taylor, Rebello Valente, Niepoort, Gould Campbell and Kopke Sao Luiz.
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Definitely Maybe. At the last tasting they were still showing very young, so it would be interesting to see the development.
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Yes please.
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Yes please.
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Definitely.
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Believe I have Churchill, Fonseca, Gould Campbell, Hooper, Noval, Royal Oporto and Warre.
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yes please
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Yes please; have Dows, Delaforce, Martinez, Offley Boa Vista, Taylors and Warres.
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Yes please!
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Almost 6 years since the last such horizontal-time to reasess. I’m in!
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Yes, please - I have the "LTSB" range (excepting Sandeman) as well as Dow's, Noval, Cálem and others (tbc). As it happens this vintage is most widely represented in my cellar so I'd be loathe to miss this horizontal - dates are good too...

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Moved to Organising Tastings and Get-togethers, for reasons that are hopefully obvious.

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Yes please!
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Subject to the date, I'm in. This will be an extremely interesting tasting for me as, over the last 12-18 months, I have been coming to the conclusion that the 1985 vintage is at the bottom of one of the cycles which we all believe Vintage Port to go through during its life.
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Yes please! I have a few different options including magnums
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Please can I be added to the reserves?
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Reserve list please, thanks.
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nac wrote: 16:46 Mon 15 Nov 2021 Believe I have Churchill, Fonseca, Gould Campbell, Hooper, Noval, Royal Oporto and Warre.
Now also have Feist (in magnum).
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Re: 1985 Horizontal - 16 March 2022

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I have 26 different '85s, so let me know if any are proving hard to find
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Re: 1985 Horizontal - 16 March 2022

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This tasting is barely a month away. This weekend I am making my last visit to the cellar before that date, so I am uplifting Rebello Valente, Sainsbury's, Churchill, Feuerheerd, Gould Campbell, Taylor's, and Graham's. I will shortly be sending out a request to other attendees to provide or adopt.

I am hopeful the average standard of the ports we sample will be better than the 1991 or 1980 tastings, but no guarantee is given...
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Re: 1985 Horizontal - 16 March 2022

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In single I have Fonseca, Martinez, Dow, Churchill, Graham, and Warre (my preference being to bring Fonseca, failing which Martinez). In magnum Fonseca and Taylor (strong preference being to bring Fonseca).
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@jdaw1 - great, Fonseca (bottle) please
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After you have made all or most such decisions, I’ll draft placemats.
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Re: 1985 Horizontal - 16 March 2022

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It seems I have no 1985 Vintage Port at home. How unexpected.

Given that starting point, the easiest for me to access would be Churchill or Warre.
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