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Port producers and brands

Posted: 16:11 Sun 19 Dec 2021
by jdaw1
  1. Symington Family Estates
    1. Dow (and Quinta da Senhora da Ribeira, and Dow Quinta Bomfim)
    2. Graham (and Quinta dos Malvedos, and Stone Terraces)
    3. Cockburn (and Quinta dos Canais)
    4. Warre (and Quinta da Cavadinha)
    5. Quinta do Vesuvio (and Capela)
    6. Martinez
    7. Quinta de Roriz
    8. Smith Woodhouse
    9. Gould Campbell
    10. Quarles Harris
  2. The Fladgate Partnership
    1. Croft (and Sērikos, and Quinta da Roêda)
    2. Fonseca (and Quinta do Panascal, and Guimaraens)
    3. Taylor (and Quinta de Terra Feita, and Quinta de Vargellas, and Quinta de Vargellas Vinha Velha)
    4. Skeffington
    5. (Wiese &) Krohn (and Quinta do Retiro Novo)
    6. Morgan
  3. Sogevinus
    1. Barros (and Quinta da Galeira)
    2. Kopke (and Quinta de São Luiz)
    3. Burmester (and Quinta do Arnozelo)
    4. Cálem (and Quinta da Foz, and Velhotes)
    5. Boa Vista
  4. Sogrape
    1. Ferreira (and Quinta do Porto)
    2. Sandeman (and Quinta do Seixo)
    3. Offley
  5. Alves de Sousa (and Quinta da Gaivosa, and Oliveirinha)
  6. J. H. Andresen
  7. Augusto’s
  8. Azul
  9. Barão de Vilar / Maynard
  10. Blackett
  11. Borges & Irmão (and Quinta da Soalheira)
  12. Broadbent
  13. Bulas
  14. Butler Nephew
  15. C. da Silva / Dalva / Presidential
  16. Cabral
  17. CARM
  18. Casal dos Jordões
  19. Castello d’Alba
  20. Castro Mello
  21. Caves Santa Maria
  22. Champalimaud
  23. Churchill (and Quinta da Agua Alta, and Quinta da Gricha, and Quinta do Rio, and Quinta do Fojo)
  24. Conceito
  25. Constantino
  26. Cruz
  27. Delaforce
  28. Dixon (& Morgan)
  29. Dona Matilde from Barão Vilar
  30. DR Port from Agri Roncão
  31. Duff Gordon
  32. Duorum
  33. Fafide
  34. Feist
  35. Fragulho
  36. Feuerheerd / Palmer
  37. Gonzalez Byass
  38. M. Gonzalez
  39. Guedes
  40. Heritage
  41. Hooper
  42. Hutcheson
  43. Kranemann (Quinta do Convento de São Pedro das Águias)
  44. Mackenzie
  45. Magalhães (Quinta do Silval)
  46. Caves Santa Marta
  47. Martha’s
  48. Messias
  49. Miguels
  50. Niepoort (and Morgadio da Calçada, and Secundum)
  51. Noble & Murat
  52. Osborne
  53. Osmann (perhaps related to Hutcheson or Feuerheerd)
  54. Pintas
  55. Poças
  56. Pousada
  57. Quevedo (and Quinta Vale d'Agodinho)
  58. Ramos Pinto (and Quinta da Ervamoira, and Quinta do Bom Retiro)
  59. Rebello Valente
  60. Réccua
  61. Rocha
  62. Romariz
  63. Royal Oporto / Real Companhia Velha (and Quinta das Carvalhas)
  64. Rozès (and São Pedro das Águias, and Quinta do GriFo)
  65. Rui Roboredo Madeira
  66. Sequeirinha
  67. São Leonardo (Quinta do Mourão)
  68. Tuke Holdsworth
  69. O-Port-Unidade (and Habemus)
  70. Vallegre (and Quinta de Valle Longo)
  71. Valriz
  72. Van Zeller
  73. Porto Vasconcellos
  74. Vasques de Carvalho
  75. Vieira de Sousa (and Quinta da Agua Alta)
  76. Villar d’Allen
  77. Vinko Companhia de Vinhos
  78. Vista Alegre
  79. Quinta da Casa Amarela
  80. Quinta da Boeira
  81. Quinta do Bucheiro
  82. Quinta do Cadão
  83. Quinta da Colmaça
  84. Quinta do Couquinho from Dona Maria Adelaide
  85. Quinta do Crasto
  86. Quinta da Senhora do Convento
  87. Quinta do Corvo
  88. Quinta dos Corvos
  89. Quinta de Corvus
  90. Quinta da Devesa
  91. Quinta de Eira Velha
  92. Quinta dos Espinheiros
  93. Quinta do Estanho
  94. Quinta de Santa Eufemia
  95. Quinta de Val da Figueira
  96. Quinta do Infantado
  97. Quinta Maria Izabel
  98. Quinta do Javali (and Maria Luisa)
  99. Quinta do São José (and SJ)
  100. Quinta das Lamelas
  101. Quinta das Liceiras
  102. Quinta de Marrocos
  103. Quinta Dona Matilde
  104. Quinta Vale D. Maria
  105. Quinta do Vale Meão
  106. Quinta do Noval (and Nacional, and Silval, and Quinta do Marco, and the recently acquired Quinta do Passadouro)
  107. Quinta Dona Otília
  108. Quinta dos Lagares
  109. Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo
  110. Quinta da Pacheca
  111. Quinta da Pedra Alta
  112. Quinta do Pégo
  113. Quinta do Pessegueiro
  114. Quinta do Pôpa
  115. Quinta da Prelada
  116. Quinta do Portal (and Quinta dos Muros)
  117. Quinta da Revolta
  118. Quinta da Romaneira
  119. Quinta de la Rosa
  120. Quinta do Sairrão
  121. Quinta do Sagrado
  122. Quinta Seara d’Ordens (and TalentVs)
  123. Quinta da Silveira
  124. Quinta da Sequeira
  125. Quinta das Tecedeiras
  126. Quinta do Tedo (and Savedra)
  127. Quinta da Trovisca
  128. Quinta do Vallado (and Adelaide)
  129. Quinta de Ventozelo

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 16:11 Sun 19 Dec 2021
by jdaw1
In the previous post is a draft of a list of Port producers and brands. It was created by merging the various threads listing each year’s declarations (2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005 + the list of Port House abbreviations). Attempts have been made to correct spelling and remove duplicates.

Links have been added, mostly taken from github.com/jdaw1/placemat/blob/main/PostScript/ExternalLinks_data.ps.

Doubtless there are many errors, both of omission and of commission. Errors likely include omissions; duplicates; spelling and accents; wrong da/das/de/do preposition; inconsistent presence or absence of “Quinta d…”; incorrect or inconsistent grouping by corporate owner; URLs incorrect or rotted or missing; and others.

Please post error reports in this thread; corrections will happen, even if not immediately. Error reports should refer to Ports by name, not by number, as the numbering will change as names are added or merged. Those with the powers to change my post should treat it as a wiki rather than as an owned post.

Quoting all or much this list will make long unwieldy posts. Please don’t.

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 16:14 Sun 19 Dec 2021
by MigSU
Just to clarify: should I mention names that should have "Quinta" (like Fonseca [Quinta do] Panascal)?

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 16:22 Sun 19 Dec 2021
by jdaw1
Please report all errors. Such data should be as good and as correct as possible.

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 16:39 Sun 19 Dec 2021
by MigSU
I think I got them all, but obviously more eyeballs on this is better than less.

Dow Quinta do Bomfim
Graham Quinta dos Malvedos
Cockburn Quinta dos Canais
Warre Quinta da Cavadinha

Fonseca Quinta do Panascal
Taylor Quinta de Terra Feita [although the label has both "Terra Feita" and "Quinta de Terra Feita", so I suppose either is acceptable]
Taylor Quinta de Vargellas [same argument as Terra Feita]

Barros Quinta da Galeira
Kopke Quinta de São Luiz
Burmester Quinta do Arnozelo
Cálem Quinta da Foz [accent is on the "a"; also added "quinta"]

Alves de Sousa Quinta da Gaivosa

Dona Matilde from Barão de Vilar [forgot the tilde]

Kranemann (Quinta do Convento de São Pedro das Águias) [forgot the accent on Águias]

Magalhães (tasted by Roy Hersh on 22 Jun 2018) [tilde]

Niepoort (and Morgadio da Calçada) ["da" instead of "de"]

Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo

Ramos Pinto (and Quinta da Ervamoira, and Quinta do Bom Retiro)

Rozès (and São Pedro das Águias, and Quinta do GriFo) [accent, and "Quinta"]

SJ from Quinta de São José [accent]

São Leonardo from Quinta do Mourão ["quinta", not "quinto"]

Vieira de Sousa (and Água Alta) [accent on Água; I've seen both Água Alta and Quinta da Água Alta, so I suppose either is acceptable]

Quinta do Cadão [tilde]

[You have both Crasto and Quinta do Crasto, not sure if that's intended]

Quinta Vale Dona Maria

Quinta do Noval (and Nacional, and Silval, and Quinta do Marco)

Quinta Dona Otília [accent]

Quinta do Pôpa [accent]

Quinta de São José [accent]

Quinta do Silval from Magalhães [tilde]

Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo [you already had "Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo", unsure if it was intended]

Quinta do Portal ["quinta", not "quinto"; also, I think it's a repeat]

Quinta de São José (announced at the New Douro Tasting) [accent]

Quinta de Vale Dona Maria [again, repeat]

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 16:48 Sun 19 Dec 2021
by JacobH
From my records.

Adams (1963 VP at TPF 30+ Initial Offline at Portal (Date: 2008-11-21))
Azul (single glass of 10YOT; First Great Western Pullman dining car. (Date: 2015-03-12))
Caves de Santa Marta (single glass of pink pre-2009)
Encostas de Provezende Quinta dos Espinheiros (small shop near Provezende selling tawnies & aged whites; no selos; not sure if any of this is officially made).
Fim de Século (bottle of 2007 LBV at home. (Date: 2014-07-25))
Fragulho (Bought at Vinologia: one of a few dusty halves of 20 Year Old Tawny they had left. Bottled in 2011 (i.e. six years before drinking) with a t-cork. The shipper is an independent producer from Cheires (just North East of Sabrosa on the far side of the Pinhão river). (Date: 2017-09-18)).
Heritage. (May also be called “Porto Heritage”. Had a glass of 2015 VP at Vinologia. Made by Família Correia dos Santos. (Date: 2020-09-14)).
Quinta da Casa Amarela (I think this used to be the Lidl “house port” back in 2008-9. I’ve tried a white and ruby. Both were dreadful).
Quinta da Colmaça (2003 VP at TPF “Bring a Bottle” tasting (Date: 2011-03-10))
Quinta da Silveira (my notes are that the 10YOT was the house port at the Boot & Flooger in 2016).
Quinta da Trovisca (bottle of 2000 colheita, bottled 2013 at home. (Date: 2016-05-30))
Quinta do Retiro Novo (2005 VP at home. (Date: 2017-01-30) + 2007 in Vinologia in 2010).
Quinta dos Corvos (they have a wine bar in VndG. I had the 20 YO Tawny + White; the 30 YOT; and the 2013 LBV).
Réccua (2004 LBV at home pre-2009; basic tawny in Douro Museum in 2017 and in a food court in Porto this year).
Schofield (1907 VP at TPF Christmas Tasting 2008 (Date: 2008-12-18))
Vasconcellos (they have a shop on the waterfront in VndG. I tried the 30 YOT this year).
Whytingham (2001 VP. Produced by Quinta do Vale Meão for Selfridge’s.)

Also, Casa de Santa Eufémia is now a separate producer from the Quinta.

And I think you are missing the following accents:

Magalhães
Quinta de Sâo José
Quinta do Vale de Dona Maria

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 18:04 Sun 19 Dec 2021
by MigSU
There's a Quinta do Sairrão (or at least there was).

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 18:42 Sun 19 Dec 2021
by winesecretary
CARM
Champalimaud
Churchill Quinta Agua Alta
Borges Soalheira
Caves Santa Maria
Niepoort Secundum
Cabral

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 21:09 Sun 19 Dec 2021
by jdaw1
MigSU wrote: ↑16:39 Sun 19 Dec 2021I think I got them all, but obviously more eyeballs on this is better than less.
Excellent work, thank you. Accents added; duplicates removed; plus a link.

MigSU wrote: ↑18:04 Sun 19 Dec 2021There's a Quinta do Sairrão (or at least there was).
winesecretary wrote: ↑18:42 Sun 19 Dec 2021CARM
Champalimaud
Churchill Quinta Agua Alta
Borges Soalheira
Caves Santa Maria
Niepoort Secundum
Cabral
Added.

jdaw1 wrote: ↑16:11 Sun 19 Dec 2021Quinta Vale D. Maria
This chosen as matches name on website.


Maybe Quinta da Senhora do Convento is duplicated. Need to check.


Missing many links. Be encouraged to seek.

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 21:27 Sun 19 Dec 2021
by jdaw1
JacobH: good to see you. Some of these really are UK wine merchants. Should the list include Tesco and Sainsbury’s? (And this is a question; answers sought.) When that decided I’ll go through your list and add them.

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 21:31 Sun 19 Dec 2021
by PhilW
A minor note; I approve of the terminology of this thread, being producers and brands (c.f. nomenclature of shippers when discussion abbreviations elsewhere, where I think we also meant brands; "the book" might be thus affected also).

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 22:22 Sun 19 Dec 2021
by MigSU
Barão de Vilar / Maynard
Alves de Sousa (and Quinta da Gaivosa, and Oliveirinha)
Borges & Irmão (and Quinta da Soalheira)
Quinta do Bucheiro

I'll do more tomorrow.

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 22:22 Sun 19 Dec 2021
by MigSU
jdaw1 wrote: ↑21:27 Sun 19 Dec 2021 JacobH: good to see you. Some of these really are UK wine merchants. Should the list include Tesco and Sainsbury’s? (And this is a question; answers sought.) When that decided I’ll go through your list and add them.
I say no.

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 08:36 Mon 20 Dec 2021
by JacobH
jdaw1 wrote:JacobH: good to see you. Some of these really are UK wine merchants. Should the list include Tesco and Sainsbury’s? (And this is a question; answers sought.) When that decided I’ll go through your list and add them.
I think, in the list I produced, there's only a couple of wine merchants: Schofield and Adams. All of the others are, I think, actual companies with the exception of Whytingham.

To answer your question, I don't know where the line should be drawn. Take Whytingham. This was created for Selfridge's. It's effectively a BoB. But it was clearly aimed at looking like a proper shipper.

The difficulty is that I am not sure how this (assuming it is a bespoke blend) differs from, say, Smith Woodhouse or other brands which are part of a larger company. It's even more striking with Quarles Harris since I think the most releases have been made for Trader Joe's. Perhaps the fact that they were separate historically is enough to distinguish then?

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 11:42 Mon 20 Dec 2021
by winesecretary
I think perhaps exclude supermarkets' own (Tesco, M&S, Sainsbury's) as what juice goes in them is a function of which shippers will sell them some excess bottles of port. They are not shippers or bottlers, they are labellers. I think we exclude labellers.

I think we should discuss this over bottles of some of the more contentious candidates. Such as the Sainsbury's (Quinta Dona Matilde) 1985 of which I have a bottle.

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 13:18 Mon 20 Dec 2021
by nac
Fojo needs to be added to Churchill.

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 19:56 Wed 22 Dec 2021
by jdaw1
Quinta de Santa Eufemia: accent removed as not used on website.

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 20:32 Wed 22 Dec 2021
by jdaw1
JacobH wrote: ↑16:48 Sun 19 Dec 2021Azul (single glass of 10YOT; First Great Western Pullman dining car. (Date: 2015-03-12))
Caves de Santa Marta (single glass of pink pre-2009)
Encostas de Provezende Quinta dos Espinheiros (small shop near Provezende selling tawnies & aged whites; no selos; not sure if any of this is officially made).
Quinta da Casa Amarela (I think this used to be the Lidl “house port” back in 2008-9. I’ve tried a white and ruby. Both were dreadful).
Quinta da Colmaça (2003 VP at TPF “Bring a Bottle” tasting (Date: 2011-03-10))
Quinta da Silveira (my notes are that the 10YOT was the house port at the Boot & Flooger in 2016).
Quinta da Trovisca (bottle of 2000 colheita, bottled 2013 at home. (Date: 2016-05-30))
Quinta dos Corvos (they have a wine bar in VndG. I had the 20 YO Tawny + White; the 30 YOT; and the 2013 LBV).
Réccua (2004 LBV at home pre-2009; basic tawny in Douro Museum in 2017 and in a food court in Porto this year).
Vasconcellos (they have a shop on the waterfront in VndG. I tried the 30 YOT this year).
Added.

JacobH wrote: ↑16:48 Sun 19 Dec 2021Fim de Século (bottle of 2007 LBV at home. (Date: 2014-07-25))
There exists Porto and Brandy. So thought BOB.

JacobH wrote: ↑16:48 Sun 19 Dec 2021Heritage. (May also be called “Porto Heritage”. Had a glass of 2015 VP at Vinologia. Made by Família Correia dos Santos. (Date: 2020-09-14)).
This?

JacobH wrote: ↑16:48 Sun 19 Dec 2021Quinta do Retiro Novo (2005 VP at home. (Date: 2017-01-30) + 2007 in Vinologia in 2010).
Added to Krohn.



And many links added.


I believe that all posted improvements have been implemented.

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 22:32 Wed 22 Dec 2021
by JacobH
Thanks for this!
jdaw1 wrote: ↑20:32 Wed 22 Dec 2021
JacobH wrote: ↑16:48 Sun 19 Dec 2021Heritage. (May also be called “Porto Heritage”. Had a glass of 2015 VP at Vinologia. Made by Família Correia dos Santos. (Date: 2020-09-14)).
This?
No: not that one. After an incredibly long wild goose chase, I eventually tracked them down here. They seem to be based at Quinta Vale do Seixo and are aiming at the French market.

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 22:40 Wed 22 Dec 2021
by jdaw1
JacobH wrote: ↑22:32 Wed 22 Dec 2021here
Added.

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 00:56 Thu 23 Dec 2021
by MigSU
jdaw1 wrote: ↑19:56 Wed 22 Dec 2021 Quinta de Santa Eufemia: accent removed as not used on website.
This is odd. Without the accent I'd read that word in a completely different way (plus, the word "Eufémia" is a woman's name, and it has the accent). But it is what it is, if they don't use it, they don't use it.

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 10:07 Thu 23 Dec 2021
by akzy
Perhaps an addition or two...
Augusto https://www.portoaugustos.pt/ (with grapes from Devesa and Estanho). Unsure if they actually blend it themselves)

Osmann (might just be French BoB but kind odd to have one as a colheita? See below)

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 10:27 Thu 23 Dec 2021
by Doggett
Bargain at 18€!!

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 10:43 Thu 23 Dec 2021
by akzy
Doggett wrote: ↑10:27 Thu 23 Dec 2021 Bargain at 18€!!
I wish. Was about 100€.

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 19:37 Thu 23 Dec 2021
by JacobH
MigSU wrote: ↑00:56 Thu 23 Dec 2021This is odd. Without the accent I'd read that word in a completely different way (plus, the word "Eufémia" is a woman's name, and it has the accent). But it is what it is, if they don't use it, they don't use it.
I’m sure we’ve discussed this before and even emailed the owners to find the answer. There was also a period of time when they spelt it with a circumflex: Eufêmia.

The other branch of the family’s website has disappeared at the end of 2019 but seemed to spell like Casa Santa Eufémia was always spelt with an accent according to what is preserved on archive.org.

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 20:24 Thu 23 Dec 2021
by jdaw1
akzy wrote: ↑10:07 Thu 23 Dec 2021Augusto https://www.portoaugustos.pt/ (with grapes from Devesa and Estanho). Unsure if they actually blend it themselves)

Osmann (might just be French BoB but kind odd to have one as a colheita? See below)
Added.

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 20:30 Thu 23 Dec 2021
by jdaw1
JacobH wrote: ↑19:37 Thu 23 Dec 2021I’m sure we’ve discussed this before and even emailed the owners to find the answer. There was also a period of time when they spelt it with a circumflex: Eufêmia.
Vendor error? Vendor error copied by jdaw1?

And your memory is good: Eufémia, and variations (unhelpfully scrambled by phpbb’s database restore bug).

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 16:55 Mon 27 Dec 2021
by JacobH
JacobH wrote: ↑19:37 Thu 23 Dec 2021The other branch of the family’s website has disappeared at the end of 2019 but seemed to spell like Casa Santa Eufémia was always spelt with an accent according to what is preserved on archive.org.
Even by my standards that was a remarkably error-strewn post. Sorry about that. I was trying to say that Casa Santa Eufémia always seems to have used the accent.
jdaw1 wrote: ↑20:30 Thu 23 Dec 2021And your memory is good: Eufémia, and variations (unhelpfully scrambled by phpbb’s database restore bug).
The scrambling is particularly unfortunate in the context of this issue!

Another shipper: Gilbert’s. I didn’t know about them until I bought a bottle of the 1985 from VW&P which we drunk this Christmas. I notice that VintagePort.se gives quite an extensive history back to 1914, with an alternative name of “G Port” from 1999 onwards. It’s apparently another Sogevinus brand now. Something that interested me, though, is that the bottle had an unbranded cork, just reading “Vintage 1985”, and the stencilling on the bottle matched some of the more recent Barros Vintages (e.g. the 2011). I wonder if this was actually bottled in 1985 as a “Gilbert’s” or Sogevinus have revived an old brand name for some dead stock.

Re: Port producers and brands

Posted: 02:04 Thu 06 Jan 2022
by Mike J. W.
Prime's Port. I've seen the 2011 in a few stores here in the U.S. (but never bought it). Produced by Caves Messias.
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