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Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023

Posted: 10:09 Mon 06 Feb 2023
by M.Charlton
akzy wrote: 10:52 Sun 05 Feb 2023 The other option is that we host a youtube live stream.
This is an excellent idea.

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023

Posted: 10:34 Mon 06 Feb 2023
by Alex Bridgeman
I'm talking to Zak about having 2 (or more) machines running tomorrow night. The tentative plan is that Zak can broadcast via YouTube but we can have people joining remotely on a Teams / Zoom / WhatsApp / Other link with one per person per PC around the table. That should give both a clear view of Zak and The Awards Presentation for people not in the room while also allowing them to contribute almost as easily as if they were sitting at the table.

Please could anyone who has a laptop or tablet who is attending on the evening and who'd be willing to allow it to be used to host a remote attendee, bring it with them?

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023

Posted: 11:04 Mon 06 Feb 2023
by flash_uk
Alex Bridgeman wrote: 10:34 Mon 06 Feb 2023 I'm talking to Zak about having 2 (or more) machines running tomorrow night. The tentative plan is that Zak can broadcast via YouTube but we can have people joining remotely on a Teams / Zoom / WhatsApp / Other link with one per person per PC around the table. That should give both a clear view of Zak and The Awards Presentation for people not in the room while also allowing them to contribute almost as easily as if they were sitting at the table.

Please could anyone who has a laptop or tablet who is attending on the evening and who'd be willing to allow it to be used to host a remote attendee, bring it with them?
I'm no AV guru Alex, but I have a suspicion that setup will create problems with audio feedback, having two (+) microphones active.

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023

Posted: 14:06 Mon 06 Feb 2023
by akzy
https://youtube.com/live/7IMamF9i1Rw?feature=share

Let's go for the usual 5;30 for 6;00pm kick-off. Stream to start at 6;15 to properly commence at 6;30pm. 15mins is enough to battle techinical difficulties... right?

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023

Posted: 14:28 Mon 06 Feb 2023
by MigSU
flash_uk wrote: 11:04 Mon 06 Feb 2023
Alex Bridgeman wrote: 10:34 Mon 06 Feb 2023 I'm talking to Zak about having 2 (or more) machines running tomorrow night. The tentative plan is that Zak can broadcast via YouTube but we can have people joining remotely on a Teams / Zoom / WhatsApp / Other link with one per person per PC around the table. That should give both a clear view of Zak and The Awards Presentation for people not in the room while also allowing them to contribute almost as easily as if they were sitting at the table.

Please could anyone who has a laptop or tablet who is attending on the evening and who'd be willing to allow it to be used to host a remote attendee, bring it with them?
I'm no AV guru Alex, but I have a suspicion that setup will create problems with audio feedback, having two (+) microphones active.
I think you're right.

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023

Posted: 16:26 Mon 06 Feb 2023
by Alex Bridgeman
flash_uk wrote: 11:04 Mon 06 Feb 2023
Alex Bridgeman wrote: 10:34 Mon 06 Feb 2023 I'm talking to Zak about having 2 (or more) machines running tomorrow night. The tentative plan is that Zak can broadcast via YouTube but we can have people joining remotely on a Teams / Zoom / WhatsApp / Other link with one per person per PC around the table. That should give both a clear view of Zak and The Awards Presentation for people not in the room while also allowing them to contribute almost as easily as if they were sitting at the table.

Please could anyone who has a laptop or tablet who is attending on the evening and who'd be willing to allow it to be used to host a remote attendee, bring it with them?
I'm no AV guru Alex, but I have a suspicion that setup will create problems with audio feedback, having two (+) microphones active.
Fair point. I always use a headset when I’m on a multiple people call so there’s never any risk of feedback.

But then Zoom etc must have a built in filter otherwise when you use the loudspeaker set on your laptop for a call the built in microphone would pick up the speaker sound and create a feedback loop.

The only way to know, is to try!

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023

Posted: 16:54 Mon 06 Feb 2023
by PhilW
flash_uk wrote: 11:04 Mon 06 Feb 2023
Alex Bridgeman wrote: 10:34 Mon 06 Feb 2023 I'm talking to Zak about having 2 (or more) machines running tomorrow night. The tentative plan is that Zak can broadcast via YouTube but we can have people joining remotely on a Teams / Zoom / WhatsApp / Other link with one per person per PC around the table. That should give both a clear view of Zak and The Awards Presentation for people not in the room while also allowing them to contribute almost as easily as if they were sitting at the table.

Please could anyone who has a laptop or tablet who is attending on the evening and who'd be willing to allow it to be used to host a remote attendee, bring it with them?
I'm no AV guru Alex, but I have a suspicion that setup will create problems with audio feedback, having two (+) microphones active.
I've done similar on several occasions. Multiple machines within the same room to provide multiple views works well, but you can only have a single speaker and microphone (on the same machine) active to avoid feedback or echo issues (depending on separation). Multi-microphones would work if pre-mixed to single machine, as would multi-speaker driven from same machine, but if you're keeping it simple using mic/speaker on each device then enabling from multiple different machines means that the transmission timing causes issues and echo cancellation tends to get in a mess.

Recommend enabling the most central machine's mic (USB webcam mic often superior to laptop built-in btw), and same machine's speaker (option to use a USB or Bluetooth speaker also, for more volume than typical laptop speaker provides). We've used the centrally placed webcam mic & BT speaker combo with multiple other machines as view-only effectively.

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023 - https://youtube.com/live/7IMamF9i1Rw?feature=share

Posted: 17:18 Mon 06 Feb 2023
by MigSU
I think PhilW has the right idea. Multiple cameras/screens, a single mic/speaker combo.

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023

Posted: 17:30 Mon 06 Feb 2023
by idj123
akzy wrote: 14:06 Mon 06 Feb 2023 https://youtube.com/live/7IMamF9i1Rw?feature=share

Let's go for the usual 5;30 for 6;00pm kick-off. Stream to start at 6;15 to properly commence at 6;30pm. 15mins is enough to battle techinical difficulties... right?
Err…is not ‘the usual’ 6pm for 6.30pm? Certainly, I might struggle to get there before 6.

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023 - https://youtube.com/live/7IMamF9i1Rw?feature=share

Posted: 19:33 Mon 06 Feb 2023
by Glenn E.
6:00 pm London is... 10:00 am Seattle. I'll be available to join at that time, but may need to disconnect for about an hour starting at 11:00 am / 7:00 pm for a meeting. If so, I'll re-join after the meeting ends.

I should be able to continue watching the stream (and commenting there as desired) during the meeting. I'll just need my camera for Zoom at that time.

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023

Posted: 19:35 Mon 06 Feb 2023
by Alex Bridgeman
PhilW wrote: 16:54 Mon 06 Feb 2023
flash_uk wrote: 11:04 Mon 06 Feb 2023
Alex Bridgeman wrote: 10:34 Mon 06 Feb 2023 I'm talking to Zak about having 2 (or more) machines running tomorrow night. The tentative plan is that Zak can broadcast via YouTube but we can have people joining remotely on a Teams / Zoom / WhatsApp / Other link with one per person per PC around the table. That should give both a clear view of Zak and The Awards Presentation for people not in the room while also allowing them to contribute almost as easily as if they were sitting at the table.

Please could anyone who has a laptop or tablet who is attending on the evening and who'd be willing to allow it to be used to host a remote attendee, bring it with them?
I'm no AV guru Alex, but I have a suspicion that setup will create problems with audio feedback, having two (+) microphones active.
I've done similar on several occasions. Multiple machines within the same room to provide multiple views works well, but you can only have a single speaker and microphone (on the same machine) active to avoid feedback or echo issues (depending on separation). Multi-microphones would work if pre-mixed to single machine, as would multi-speaker driven from same machine, but if you're keeping it simple using mic/speaker on each device then enabling from multiple different machines means that the transmission timing causes issues and echo cancellation tends to get in a mess.

Recommend enabling the most central machine's mic (USB webcam mic often superior to laptop built-in btw), and same machine's speaker (option to use a USB or Bluetooth speaker also, for more volume than typical laptop speaker provides). We've used the centrally placed webcam mic & BT speaker combo with multiple other machines as view-only effectively.
Does anyone have a speaker / mic we could use? I don't have anything along these lines...

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023 - https://youtube.com/live/7IMamF9i1Rw?feature=share

Posted: 21:13 Mon 06 Feb 2023
by Doggett
I will get some white signs ready to communicate with a la Love Actually 😂

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023 - https://youtube.com/live/7IMamF9i1Rw?feature=share

Posted: 22:02 Mon 06 Feb 2023
by akzy
Let's see how this goes tomorrow. The YouTube Live stream (famous last words) should go smoothly. The two way feedback may be trickier.

For start time, if you're in place for 6:30 Ian, we should all be pretty happy.

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023 - https://youtube.com/live/7IMamF9i1Rw?feature=share

Posted: 00:09 Tue 07 Feb 2023
by Justin K
YouTube and Zoom; looking forward to it but I have a zoom meeting at 6.00 so will arrive late!

Re: Voting now open - TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023

Posted: 11:16 Tue 07 Feb 2023
by nac
akzy wrote: 17:59 Sun 05 Feb 2023
nac wrote: 15:29 Sun 05 Feb 2023 I'll print.
Legend. Many thanks Neil.
Done.

Re: Voting now open - TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023

Posted: 11:27 Tue 07 Feb 2023
by nac
nac wrote: 11:16 Tue 07 Feb 2023
akzy wrote: 17:59 Sun 05 Feb 2023
nac wrote: 15:29 Sun 05 Feb 2023 I'll print.
Legend. Many thanks Neil.
Done.
I'm aiming to be there by 1800 (hopefully a bit earlier).
Given there are only nine of us, assume we won't be pre-pouring?

Re: Voting now open - TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2022

Posted: 11:43 Tue 07 Feb 2023
by Alex Bridgeman
Alex Bridgeman wrote: 18:49 Mon 30 Jan 2023 I have found the bottle I wanted to bring. I shall be bringing Fonseca 1963.
This was opened at 18.30 yesterday and decanted at 10.30 today. It will be returned to the original bottle about 12.30, before I make my way to the station to head in to London.

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023 - https://youtube.com/live/7IMamF9i1Rw?feature=share

Posted: 13:40 Tue 07 Feb 2023
by winesecretary
If you are not pre-pouring generally, please nevertheless pour some for me as I won't be there until about 1845 (train arrives Marylebone 1820 all being well).

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023 - https://youtube.com/live/7IMamF9i1Rw?feature=share

Posted: 16:15 Tue 07 Feb 2023
by nac
winesecretary wrote: 13:40 Tue 07 Feb 2023 If you are not pre-pouring generally, please nevertheless pour some for me as I won't be there until about 1845 (train arrives Marylebone 1820 all being well).
Will do.

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023 - https://youtube.com/live/7IMamF9i1Rw?feature=share

Posted: 16:20 Tue 07 Feb 2023
by nac
G60 double-decanted & Vac-u-Vined at 1930 last night.
Level was mid-shoulder with some signs of seepage. Cork pretty good and out in almost one piece.
Lots of heavy sediment. Very small QA sample all good.

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023 - https://youtube.com/live/7IMamF9i1Rw?feature=share

Posted: 16:35 Tue 07 Feb 2023
by Alex Bridgeman
I have finished my errands in London and have found a quiet spot to work with a glass of Fonseca 2000 on hand. I'll aim to be at the Boot & Flogger 17.00-17.30 but if needed earlier (or if anyone is free for a drink earlier), just let me know.

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023 - https://youtube.com/live/7IMamF9i1Rw?feature=share

Posted: 16:42 Tue 07 Feb 2023
by akzy
SW70 decanted at 9am this morning. Will be there for 5:30.

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023 - https://youtube.com/live/7IMamF9i1Rw?feature=share

Posted: 17:56 Tue 07 Feb 2023
by flash_uk
Cr70 retrieved and found to be a leaker, just below top shoulder fill. Not convinced by nose and quick QC sample. W70 decanted, as a bonus.

Should get there for 1815.

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023 - https://youtube.com/live/7IMamF9i1Rw?feature=share

Posted: 18:01 Tue 07 Feb 2023
by Alex Bridgeman
The Burmester 1960 is, sadly, shot. Very oxidised. Gary tells me that the cork fell in when he tried to decant it earlier today.

Re: TPF awards ceremony - 7th February 2023 - https://youtube.com/live/7IMamF9i1Rw?feature=share

Posted: 18:34 Tue 07 Feb 2023
by idj123
RV70 decanted just before 1pm today. Not tasted but smelled good. ETA 6.15pm