Tuke Holdsworth vertical (abandoned)

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Tuke Holdsworth vertical (abandoned)

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A Tuke Holdworth vertical was requested at a recent tasting; on discussion we had a reasonable amount of interest but very few bottles between us; not really enough. Rather than expanding the tasting with additional Brands or just additional good VPs, the preference was to save the bottles for other events, so the idea of a TH vertical is abandoned for the time being.

Original discussion is retained below in case useful for future reference.


At a recent tasting there was enthusiasm expressed for a Tuke Holdsworth vertical, and since I haven't arranged a vertical in some time I offered to organise. As we already have a Ferreira vertical aimed for Sept, I propose that we plan for a Tuke Holdsworth vertical in mid-November (perhaps Tur 21st) if we have enough bottles and interest.

Date: Mid-November 2023, possibly Tue 21st Nov
Location: B&F
Theme: A Tuke Holdsworth vertical
Vintages: TBD

Please therefore respond either in-thread if you would be interested, and to let me know what bottles you might be able to offer (PM or email me if you prefer), so we can see whether this might be viable?


So far:
Bottles offered (5): TH '20, '22, '34, '47, '55
Interest expressed (10+): PW, CPR, TC, AHB, HWTH, IDJ, GEAG, JDAW, MPM, NAC, (JacobH?,) and akzy
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I am game, count me in.

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Yes please Phil
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Definitely. My experience with TH is limited but I’ve been impressed.
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yes please, i will have to have a look.
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And that’s a yes from me!
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I have none but eager to attend and happy to make appropriate fiscal contributions
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Yes please.
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Yes please.

I’ve got TH47 which colour is ok but it’s mid shoulder. Happy to add it in, or equally happy not to if someone has a better bottle they’re able to offer.
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Yes please
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I have...

1947 - base of neck; the third of three obtained from a special C&B sale for very few £. The previous two are on the tasting note index.

1955 - just into neck; BBR bottled; obtained from BBR's paper broking list in December 1996.

Happy to provide both of these.
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Need to check as the location reference is same - but potentially either '20 or '34
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Out of idle interest, when was the last TH declaration? I'm afraid that I'm travelling at the moment and so can't consult The Book!
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Doubtless this will be a complete tasting, including all of:
  1. 1756 Hunt Roope / Tuke Holdsworth
  2. 1757 Hunt Roope / Tuke Holdsworth
  3. 1820 Newman
  4. 1840 Tuke Holdsworth ≈ Produced, perhaps sold
  5. 1846 Tuke Holdsworth ? Possibly
  6. 1847 Tuke Holdsworth
  7. 1851 Tuke Holdsworth
  8. 1858 Tuke Holdsworth
  9. 1861 Tuke Holdsworth
  10. 1863 Tuke Holdsworth
  11. 1865 Tuke Holdsworth
  12. 1867 Tuke Holdsworth
  13. 1868 Tuke Holdsworth
  14. 1870 Tuke Holdsworth
  15. 1873 Tuke Holdsworth
  16. 1874 Tuke Holdsworth
  17. 1875 Tuke Holdsworth
  18. 1881 Tuke Holdsworth
  19. 1884 Tuke Holdsworth
  20. 1885 Tuke Holdsworth
  21. 1887 Tuke Holdsworth
  22. 1890 Tuke Holdsworth
  23. 1892 Tuke Holdsworth
  24. 1893 Tuke Holdsworth ≈ Produced, perhaps sold
  25. 1894 Tuke Holdsworth ? Perhaps
  26. 1895 Tuke Holdsworth ≈ Produced, perhaps sold
  27. 1896 Tuke Holdsworth
  28. 1900 Tuke Holdsworth
  29. 1901 Tuke Holdsworth ≈ Produced and sold
  30. 1902 Tuke Holdsworth (Eira Velha) ≈ Made, perhaps sold
  31. 1904 Tuke Holdsworth
  32. 1906 Tuke Holdsworth
  33. 1908 Tuke Holdsworth
  34. 1912 Tuke Holdsworth
  35. 1914 Tuke Holdsworth ? Perhaps
  36. 1917 Tuke Holdsworth
  37. 1920 Tuke Holdsworth
  38. 1921 Tuke Holdsworth ? Perhaps
  39. 1922 Tuke Holdsworth
  40. 1924 Tuke Holdsworth
  41. 1927 Tuke Holdsworth
  42. 1931 Tuke Holdsworth
  43. 1934 Tuke Holdsworth
  44. 1935 Tuke Holdsworth
  45. 1943 Tuke Holdsworth (Quinta da Eira Velha)
  46. 1945 Tuke Holdsworth
  47. 1947 Tuke Holdsworth
  48. 1948 Quinta da Eira Velha ? Perhaps
  49. 1950 Tuke Holdsworth
  50. 1955 Tuke Holdsworth
  51. 1958 Tuke Holdsworth
  52. 1960 Tuke Holdsworth
  53. 1963 Tuke Holdsworth
  54. 1983
  55. 1987
  56. 1994
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I can bring the 1934
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Much though I wish I had some ’56, ’57, ’58s, ’60, ’61, ’63s, ’65, ’67, but alas none.
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Gosh. I had no idea they kept that brand going for so long. I had thought it had petered out 50+ years ago, although I suppose the declarations post 1963 were rather capricious!

Incidentally, there is a photo of a 2003 floating around on the web. I assume there is no reason for it to be a fake!
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There also appears to be a 1995 VP. https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=554403
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So far we have expressions of interest from 10 people (possibly 12), but only five vintages. That number might yet increase (THRA?) but if not then we might need to expand the criteria, perhaps by including other Hunt Roope and Co produced brands from the same period (such as the Eira Vehla '43 and '45) or Hunt branded bottles, if we have them available. A topic for discussion over Cavadinha, perhaps.
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jdaw1 wrote: 20:13 Mon 20 Mar 2023 Doubtless this will be a complete tasting, including all of:
  1. 1931 Tuke Holdsworth
  2. 1934 Tuke Holdsworth
  3. 1935 Tuke Holdsworth
  4. 1943 Tuke Holdsworth (Quinta da Eira Velha)
  5. 1945 Tuke Holdsworth
  6. 1947 Tuke Holdsworth
  7. 1948 Quinta da Eira Velha ? Perhaps
  8. 1950 Tuke Holdsworth
FWIW, I have images of bottles produced by Hunt, Roope and Co branded Quinta da Eira Vehla for both 1943 and 1945, though neither mention TH on them; not sure how that lines up with your list/records/intention above.
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PhilW wrote: 12:55 Wed 22 Mar 2023 So far we have expressions of interest from 10 people (possibly 12), but only five vintages. That number might yet increase (THRA?) but if not then we might need to expand the criteria, perhaps by including other Hunt Roope and Co produced brands from the same period (such as the Eira Vehla '43 and '45) or Hunt branded bottles, if we have them available. A topic for discussion over Cavadinha, perhaps.
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Re: Tuke Holdsworth vertical (not for now).

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Following further discussion at the recent WC tasting, the idea for a TH vertical has been put on hold given the very limited number of bottles that people have available; other potential ways to extend the tasting (such as expanding to any Hunt/Roope, adding other Brands of similar era [e.g. Constantino], or a second-half of just good VP) were discussed, but the overall conclusion on these was not positive, and the preference was to retain the bottles for other future events. I have updated the first post to reflect this.
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