Thursday 11th April - Decanting Experiment plus some drinkers

[hadge]

Date: Thursday 11th April 2024

Yes, I’m aware of Julian event on 9th. I have spoken to Julian and if you have already agreed to attend his event but would like to change this one then he is very happy for you to. you can attend both as well.

Time: 12:30, for bottle opening. happy to add people for just the evening if there is space, i will prioritise those that can make the lunchtime onwards.

Location: Boot & Flogger (Green Room booked but can change to Red)

Theme: Decanting Experiment

My idea (current plan) is to open either 1 or 2 tappit hens and decant them into 3 different type of decanters each, so 6 different in total, and then see how the port develops over time in each one. check after every hour and then maybe half an hour when the room views it ready. Depending on numbers there will be some extra wines to keep us going as we go along. the extra wines will be self pour.

The goal of the event,

Is to see if there is any difference in each type of decanter to the decanting time and if possible as a bonus find the optimum time in a decanter for the wine.

as this is about decanters, the voting will be types of decanter and not wine of the night. this is not about which is the best port. hopefully having some nice port to go with this idea will make it more enjoyable.

Costs: only food and NO one is to bring a bottle without clearing it with me first. I would be incredibly surprised if you go dry!! these are bottles that i want to open and enjoy with others.

We are already at Quorum with 2 of us confirmed.

Attendees: (this is capped at 10)

1. Harry H
2. Julian W
3. Alex B (Maybe/No but could change)
4. Martin C
5. Mike M
6. Neil C
7. Tom A
8. Ian J (evening only)
9. Ben P (evening only)

Current draft of the placemats

[hadge]

The current plan and lineup,

Double magnum of 2007 Portal Grande Reserva Douro red wine.
decanted into a Square style and ship style, magnum decanters

Tappit Hen's, 2x Dow 1977
Dow's to be decanted into Sandeman tawny bottle, Straight style, and ships style. bottle decanters,
currently the plan is to have 2 groups, with the same setup for each Dow TH.

maybe a Warre 1977 TH, or Mag of GC77 or Cr63, (this line to be confirmed)

Bottles,
W47 (JDAW)
BN47
Cr55
N55 (very low fill)
Fr60
T66
GM79

Decanters for TH and DM

Sandeman Tawny Bottles x3 (Mike)
straight Magnum (JDAW)
Ship magnum (HTWH)
Standard Straight x2 (HTWH)
Ship x2 (HTWH)

Extra Bottles, going to ask for decanters at B&F for these

[mcoulson]

May I join in please??

[hadge]

May I join in please??

Yes, added

[jdaw1]

Hell yes.

I’m happy for there to be two events in this week. If others much prefer that there be only one, then the event on Tuesday 9th April will be postponed.

[mcoulson]

I think both events are really interesting and I would like to do both ... But I would prefer if they were spread out a bit ... But let's not cancel anything!

[jdaw1]

spread out a bit

≈ 48 hours?

[flash_uk]

I’m available to conduct scientific experimentation

[mcoulson]

spread out a bit

≈ 48 hours?

No I fear a bit more than that might be useful

[nac]

Yup, I'm in.

[jdaw1]

The event previously scheduled for Tuesday 9th April has been postponed.

[hadge]

I have added the people from Tuesday's to this event to give them first refusal to a seat.

[BRPetrie]

Hello all - please may I join in for this!

[idj123]

Happy to exchange the Tuesday for a Thursday (it suits me better).

[mcoulson]

Yes please... Happy to confirm my attendance !!!

[Alex Bridgeman]

Consider this my (provisional) confirmation.

[akzy]

Might be able to make this. Tentatively yes please! Move me off if others are more sure.

[nac]

Harry - I've now got to go to a funeral that morning. I'm still coming but won't be there by 1230. Hopefully not much later, but probably makes sense for me to order my lunch when I get there.

[winesecretary]

I remain sorrowful about my inability to attend but it’s bad form to walk out of a court hearing to go to a tappit hen tasting.

[Glenn E.]

I remain sorrowful about my inability to attend but it’s bad form to walk out of a court hearing to go to a tappit hen tasting.

And here I thought that our court system had been turned on its head!

[hadge]

Harry - I've now got to go to a funeral that morning. I'm still coming but won't be there by 1230. Hopefully not much later, but probably makes sense for me to order my lunch when I get there.

Completely understand. i would think that we would be easting around 1:30pm, with all of the opening and decanting to be done first.

[hadge]

I remain sorrowful about my inability to attend but it’s bad form to walk out of a court hearing to go to a tappit hen tasting.

your honour are free to go to a tappit hen lunch?

[jdaw1]

I remain sorrowful about my inability to attend but it’s bad form to walk out of a court hearing to go to a tappit hen tasting.

your honour are free to go to a tappit hen lunch?

This is the funniest post on TPF, perhaps ever. I’m still giggling.

[hadge]

so looking at bottle lineup,

DM i'm debating between a Taylor's Special Wood Port Vintage Character, or 2007 Portal Grande Reserva Douro red wine.

2 Tappit Hen's, Dow 1977 and Warre 1977, plus maybe a Warre 1975.

Drink up leaker's (this is still to be added too)
BN47
Cr55
N55 (very low fill)
T66
GM79

[jdaw1]

Harry has asked me to assemble the food order, for which you might welcome a link to the food menu. You know what to do; do it.

Lunch:
• Crab;
• Beyond Meat Burger;
• Welsh rarebit.

Dinner:
• Soup of day;
• Sirloin steak, blue, + skinny fries, + carrots;
• Bramdean Pudding.

(Everybody has been pinged by WhatsApp.)

2 Tappit Hen's, Dow 1977 and Warre 1977, plus maybe a Warre 1975.

For placemat purposes, how many ways are these being split? And do you have a preferred sub-labelling, perhaps of the form “Ship’s” and “Straight”?

[jdaw1]

Ahh, we need two orders, don't we. Lunch and dinner! Post amended.

[hadge]

DM is to go into 2 magnum decanters

TH to be split into Sandeman tawny bottle, Straight and Ship's with hopefully 650 to 700 ml in each, the same setup for each Tappit Hen. I'm thinking of splitting the group into 2 maybe 3 groups for the Tappit Hen's only. we need to have ideally 4 to 5 rounds over time, but not small samples each time. maybe i need to do the same TH ie Dow 1977 for each group. i don't have a preferred sub-labelling but think they should be clear.

Then the leaker bottles will just be shared around as people see fit.

[hadge]

Ahh, we need two orders, don't we. Lunch and dinner! Post amended.

we normally order dinner on the day.

[hadge]

I'm looking for 3 or 4 Sandeman Tawny Bottles for this event, if you can bring one or two, please let me know.

[jdaw1]

Draft of the placemats added to the first post. Please inspect and either confirm satisfactory, or instruct.

[jdaw1]

I'm looking for 3 or 4 Sandeman Tawny Bottles for this event, if you can bring one or two, please let me know.

Believe yes, two, but that needs checking.

[mcoulson]

looks like a lunch list and a diner list ....

in which case can I have soup of the day and smoked salmon (both are starters) for lunch

and medium steak with peppercorn sauce and fries for dinner please.

[flash_uk]

I'm looking for 3 or 4 Sandeman Tawny Bottles for this event, if you can bring one or two, please let me know.

Do you mean empty ones? I have a dozen or so.

[hadge]

I'm looking for 3 or 4 Sandeman Tawny Bottles for this event, if you can bring one or two, please let me know.

Do you mean empty ones? I have a dozen or so.

Yes empty ones, please.

[flash_uk]

I'm looking for 3 or 4 Sandeman Tawny Bottles for this event, if you can bring one or two, please let me know.

Do you mean empty ones? I have a dozen or so.

Yes empty ones, please.

I'll bring 3 as that's my largest bottle carrier.

[hadge]

I'll bring 3 as that's my largest bottle carrier.

great and thanks

[akzy]

Might be able to make this. Tentatively yes please! Move me off if others are more sure.

This is now unfortunately a can't attend.

[BRPetrie]

I will just be attending the dinner part of this - so can I please order medium steak with peppercorn sauce & fries (hope to arrive 6.30-7pm)

[jdaw1]

Harry has asked me to assemble the food order, for which you might welcome a link to the food menu. You know what to do; do it.

Lunch:
• Crab;
• Beyond Meat Burger;
• Welsh rarebit.

Dinner:
• Soup of day;
• Sirloin steak, blue, + skinny fries, + carrots;
• Bramdean Pudding.

(Everybody has been pinged by WhatsApp.)

Peeps!


Also, by permission of our host, a high-shoulder W47 has been added to the placemats.

[hadge]

Lunch

Smoked Salmon
Sirloin Steak (M-R), Skinny Fries, and Carrots
Chocolate Fondant if possible

extra course of a cheese board enough for a few people

Dinner,
no starter
Bangers and Fries

[hadge]

Might be able to make this. Tentatively yes please! Move me off if others are more sure.

This is now unfortunately a can't attend.

sad news.

[Alex Bridgeman]

It’s looking unlikely that I will be able to attend.

If I can, it will be a last minute decision — in which case I will order on the day.

[flash_uk]

Lunch food order for me please:
Burrata
Crab, king prawns, chilli, tomato, garlic, linguine
Rarebit

[jdaw1]

Important: anybody bringing a decanter for this experiment, please ensure that it is clean and fresh. If it hasn’t been used in the last two-ish weeks, please re-rinse by filling with very hot water, and then dry, perhaps in sun and wind. Must be very dry, so do this task before the last moment.

My prior is that decanter shape matters little to not-at-all. If that is correct, or even just not wholly wrong, then the results could be swamped by small differences in decanter freshness. Hence they must all be super-fresh.

[idj123]

Apologies but I will now be tied up with a new business proposal and so, won’t be able to attend the lunchtime part of this tasting but should still be able to make the evening if that can be accommodated? Assuming so, I will have my new usual:

Welsh Rarebit
Steak (M/R) fries and carrots with peppercorn sauce
Dessert TBD on the night

Thanks

[hadge]

Apologies but I will now be tied up with a new business proposal and so, won’t be able to attend the lunchtime part of this tasting but should still be able to make the evening if that can be accommodated? Assuming so, I will have my new usual:

Welsh Rarebit
Steak (M/R) fries and carrots with peppercorn sauce
Dessert TBD on the night

Thanks

absolutely no problem, see you for the evening part, arrive when you can.

[nac]

My arrival time for the afternoon is subject to getting away from a funeral in Gravesend and then driving into London, so will order something when I get there - hopefully mid-afternoon. Could someone please pour for me and I’ll catch up on arrival…

For evening I’ll have the Rarebit, followed by Sausage & Mash (large).

[hadge]

does anyone have a ship's decanter they could bring with them? just trying to find my third one.

[hadge]

we have a space if anyone wants to join in the fun and games.

PS, I have added Bottles and Decanters to the second post.

[winesecretary]

Today has gone well. There is an outside chance we may be done Thursday night, in which case I will turn up with a thirst and a hopeful expression (not with the Judge in tow though).