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Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 12:23 Wed 30 Apr 2025
by nac
The backend of May and all of June are currently functionless, so have booked the Red Room at The Boot & Flogger for the evening of Tuesday 27th May for a 1985 Horizontal (booking reference DMN-16900667259).
Previous edition of this tasting was in
March 2022, and as they are now 40, it seems an appropriate time for a repeat.
Please state interest and bottles.
Attendees:
- NAC
- MPM
- THRA
- MSC
- JDAW
- IDJ
- Nigel
Not available:
Available bottles:
- Cálem - MSC
- Churchill - NAC, JDAW
- Dow - MSC, JDAW
- Delaforce - NAC
- Feist (magnum) - NAC
- Fonseca - NAC, MSC, JDAW
- Gould Campbell - NAC
- Graham - IDJ, JDAW
- Hooper - NAC, MSC
- Hutcheson - MSC
- Martinez - MSC, JDAW
- Niepoort - IDJ
- Noval - NAC
- Royal Oporto - NAC
- Smith Woodhouse - MPM
- Taylor - MSC
- Warre - NAC, MSC, JDAW
Current draft of
the placemats.

Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s
Posted: 12:23 Wed 30 Apr 2025
by nac
Bottles to be had:
- Churchill - NAC
- Croft - THRA
- Dow - MSC
- Fonseca - JDAW
- Graham - IDJ
- Martinez - MSC
- Niepoort - IDJ
- Noval - NAC
- Sandeman - THRA
- Smith Woodhouse - MPM
- Taylor - MSC
- Warre - JDAW
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 12:26 Wed 30 Apr 2025
by flash_uk
Yes please
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 12:29 Wed 30 Apr 2025
by uncle tom
The 85s were really awkward a decade ago, but are growing up now
Stick me down please - have loads of shippers
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 12:38 Wed 30 Apr 2025
by mcoulson
May I join in please ... I'm sure I have some 85 somewhere !!
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 13:00 Wed 30 Apr 2025
by winesecretary
Yes please
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 13:11 Wed 30 Apr 2025
by uncle tom
mcoulson wrote: ↑12:38 Wed 30 Apr 2025
May I join in please ... I'm sure I have some 85 somewhere !!
Anyone needing to adopt - no problem
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 13:16 Wed 30 Apr 2025
by uncle tom
JDAW wishes to be added
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 14:29 Wed 30 Apr 2025
by CPR 1
Yes please
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 16:03 Wed 30 Apr 2025
by nac
Am going to start the list of available bottles.
Propose that if 14 of us we aim for max 18 bottles.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 20:17 Wed 30 Apr 2025
by CPR 1
I was over optimistic and have discovered I am not available this evening - my apologies.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 21:48 Wed 30 Apr 2025
by Alex Bridgeman
Not me, much as I love the vintage.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 06:17 Thu 01 May 2025
by idj123
Yes please. Will check what I have to hand.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 06:29 Thu 01 May 2025
by nac
Given this tasting has been proposed with relatively short notice, I suspect we won't get 14 "regular" attendees. So, feel free to bring guests.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 06:37 Thu 01 May 2025
by nac
Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑21:48 Wed 30 Apr 2025
Not me, much as I love the vintage.

Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 07:13 Thu 01 May 2025
by mcoulson
uncle tom wrote: ↑13:11 Wed 30 Apr 2025
mcoulson wrote: ↑12:38 Wed 30 Apr 2025
May I join in please ... I'm sure I have some 85 somewhere !!
Anyone needing to adopt - no problem
Thanks for the offer Tom ..... however I happen to have snoozing peacefully Cá F Ho H Mz TW D
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 08:09 Thu 01 May 2025
by hadge
very sadly can't make this. as this was my christening year (still have a case of T85 given to me), it would have been fun to attended. enjoy and i look forward to seeing the scores and notes.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 12:21 Thu 01 May 2025
by nac
mcoulson wrote: ↑07:13 Thu 01 May 2025
uncle tom wrote: ↑13:11 Wed 30 Apr 2025
mcoulson wrote: ↑12:38 Wed 30 Apr 2025
May I join in please ... I'm sure I have some 85 somewhere !!
Anyone needing to adopt - no problem
Thanks for the offer Tom ..... however I happen to have snoozing peacefully Cá F Ho H Mz TW D
Is TW actually SW or T & W?
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 12:34 Thu 01 May 2025
by Bertie3000
Sorry I cannot make this.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 16:13 Fri 02 May 2025
by mcoulson
nac wrote: ↑12:21 Thu 01 May 2025
mcoulson wrote: ↑07:13 Thu 01 May 2025
uncle tom wrote: ↑13:11 Wed 30 Apr 2025
mcoulson wrote: ↑12:38 Wed 30 Apr 2025
May I join in please ... I'm sure I have some 85 somewhere !!
Anyone needing to adopt - no problem
Thanks for the offer Tom ..... however I happen to have snoozing peacefully Cá F Ho H Mz TW D
Is TW actually SW or T & W?
whoops - fat fingers and old age .... that should be Cá F Ho H Mz T W D
what a difference a space can make ....
no smith woodhouse I'm afraid but I do have T in mag if we are about to run out !
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 22:57 Fri 02 May 2025
by jdaw1
I have a pathetically diminutive amount of 1985 Fonseca, and lesser quantities of Warre, Dow, Graham, Taylor, Martinez, Churchill, and even worsely nugatory supplies of Fonseca and Taylor in magnum.
These things are measured in milli-tons: I cower in embarrassment; I hang my head in shame.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 23:14 Fri 02 May 2025
by jdaw1
nac wrote: ↑12:23 Wed 30 Apr 2025Previous edition of this tasting was in
March 2022
Also perhaps worthy of mention:
- 09 Mar 2017: {Dow,Graham,Fonseca,Taylor,Warre} × {1980,1983,1985};
- 26 Feb 2016: 1985 Horizontal at the Columbia Yacht Club in Chicago;
- 25 Nov 2015: Horizontal of 1985s;
- 02 Apr 2013: 1983-1985 Double Horizontal;
- 19 Jan 2008: The ‘Up North’ 1985 Horizontal;
- 26–27 Dec 2007: The ‘Emergency’ 1985 Horizontal;
- 17 Mar 2007: 1985s in Sussex;
- 13 Apr 2002: In Fulham: {Dow, Graham, Taylor} × {1980, 1983, 1985}.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 08:29 Sat 03 May 2025
by idj123
Might have a few others to hand but so far have espied G and Ni. Although clearly a risk I would love to open the latter; it’s the oldest bought bottle in my collection dating back to c2003 when bought from a wine shop on the road just up from the quayside on the Porto shore.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 13:01 Mon 05 May 2025
by nac
mcoulson wrote: ↑16:13 Fri 02 May 2025
nac wrote: ↑12:21 Thu 01 May 2025
mcoulson wrote: ↑07:13 Thu 01 May 2025
uncle tom wrote: ↑13:11 Wed 30 Apr 2025
mcoulson wrote: ↑12:38 Wed 30 Apr 2025
May I join in please ... I'm sure I have some 85 somewhere !!
Anyone needing to adopt - no problem
Thanks for the offer Tom ..... however I happen to have snoozing peacefully Cá F Ho H Mz TW D
Is TW actually SW or T & W?
whoops - fat fingers and old age .... that should be Cá F Ho H Mz T W D
what a difference a space can make ....
no smith woodhouse I'm afraid but I do have T in mag if we are about to run out !
Updated.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 13:02 Mon 05 May 2025
by nac
jdaw1 wrote: ↑22:57 Fri 02 May 2025
I have a pathetically diminutive amount of 1985 Fonseca, and lesser quantities of Warre, Dow, Graham, Taylor, Martinez, Churchill, and even worsely nugatory supplies of Fonseca and Taylor in magnum.
These things are measured in milli-tons: I cower in embarrassment; I hang my head in shame.
Think that means you have Fonseca? Have updated the list.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 13:07 Mon 05 May 2025
by nac
idj123 wrote: ↑08:29 Sat 03 May 2025
Might have a few others to hand but so far have espied G and Ni. Although clearly a risk I would love to open the latter; it’s the oldest bought bottle in my collection dating back to c2003 when bought from a wine shop on the road just up from the quayside on the Porto shore.
List updated.
We are currently only seven strong, but with the choice of - at the moment - 16 shippers.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 06:46 Tue 20 May 2025
by nac
This is now only a week away, so your food orders please.
Will sort out bottle allocations shortly. If you haven’t indicated what you can offer, please do now.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 10:11 Tue 20 May 2025
by winesecretary
Will try to confirm what I have immediately to hand this evening.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 13:51 Tue 20 May 2025
by flash_uk
I went hunting and found SW85, excellent fill and colour. Also have Cálem, but didn't happen upon that.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 13:54 Tue 20 May 2025
by flash_uk
Food order for me:
Peppered Smoked Mackerel
Marinated Pork Chop
Buttered New Potatoes
Chimichurri Broccoli
Welsh rarebit
Many thanks
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 18:00 Tue 20 May 2025
by mcoulson
Ham Hock,Fillet Steak (medium), skinny fries, green beans – no butter at all just show them some hot water. Roasted Almond and
Peach Crumble
I've asked Nigel if he is up for an evening - will know real soon ... If he does he will adopt from me
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 18:02 Tue 20 May 2025
by mcoulson
Nigels up for the event ... Please add him if that's ok ...
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 19:20 Tue 20 May 2025
by jdaw1
No placemats! Please, which Ports, and brought by whom? The usual stuff.
nac wrote: ↑13:07 Mon 05 May 2025We are currently only seven strong, but with the choice of - at the moment - 16 shippers.
Now eight people, so there should be a cap, a genuine hard cap, of fifteen bottles.
I will try for extra people. Edit: several have been nudged.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 19:24 Tue 20 May 2025
by jdaw1
Menu
• Soup of the day;
• Burger (as rare as allowed) + skinny fries + carrots;
• Welsh rarebit (extra cheesey).
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 19:34 Tue 20 May 2025
by winesecretary
I am very sorry, but pressure of work means I am not now going to be able to attend this tasting. Apologies.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 20:00 Tue 20 May 2025
by flash_uk
winesecretary wrote: ↑19:34 Tue 20 May 2025
I am very sorry, but pressure of work means I am not now going to be able to attend this tasting. Apologies.
What happens in situations like this, is that while you are asleep on the evening before the tasting, Port Fairies appear and collect from you all the distressed emotions of having been unable to attend the tasting, they reverse the polarity of these, and bottle them. They then monitor the port calendar and appear on the eve of the next tasting you ARE able to attend, and administer the now-euphoric emotions back to you.
The tasting you attend subsequent to the 27th May 2025 will be fabulous.

Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 08:13 Wed 21 May 2025
by nac
OK - George out & Nigel in, so back to seven heads.
Unless we get a few more attendee will see if the Green Room is available instead.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 08:18 Wed 21 May 2025
by nac
Could attendees who haven't notified bottle availability please do so TODAY.
At the moment four people are supplying everything.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 08:21 Wed 21 May 2025
by nac
Also, will be submitting food orders later today, so if you haven't told me yet then need to know now.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 11:19 Wed 21 May 2025
by nac
As there are currently only seven of us, would like to aim for the following bottles:
- Churchill
- Croft
- Dow
- Fonseca
- Graham
- Martinez
- Niepoort
- Noval
- Sandeman
- Taylor
- Warre
We have some (in bold), but not all of these.
Can we find the missing ones?
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 16:32 Wed 21 May 2025
by idj123
nac wrote: ↑08:21 Wed 21 May 2025
Also, will be submitting food orders later today, so if you haven't told me yet then need to know now.
Hopefully just made it in time:
Welsh Rarebit
Burger (M/R) and fries with creamed spinach
Dessert TBD on the night
Thanks!
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 18:09 Wed 21 May 2025
by jdaw1
nac wrote: ↑11:19 Wed 21 May 2025Can we find the missing ones?
We have available sixteen shippers for seven people. Surely we could work with that?
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 10:01 Thu 22 May 2025
by nac
OK - bottle allocations decided. Can you please bring:
Julian - Fonseca, Warre
Tom - Croft, Sandeman
Ian - Graham, Niepoort
Mike - Smith Woodhouse
Neil - Churchill, Noval
Martin & Nigel - Dow, Martinez, Taylor
So, 12 bottles between seven of us.
List is also in 2nd post of thread.
I'll do some cost equalisation on the night.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 10:04 Thu 22 May 2025
by nac
Food order has been submitted and asked for 8*12=96 glasses.
Have offered up moving to Green Room if it works better for B&F.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 22:26 Thu 22 May 2025
by jdaw1
+ Guest, Graham V. (not certain, but I think he promised me, if he failed to attend, a Dow 1878).
Current draft of
the placemats, with images in the
the first post. As usual, somebody please check.
Who will print?
Edit: GJV is in. The
placemats have been updated.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 21:40 Fri 23 May 2025
by jdaw1
Is the planning sufficiently settled that TN threads can be made?
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 21:59 Fri 23 May 2025
by mcoulson
I'll do the printing .....
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 22:23 Fri 23 May 2025
by nac
jdaw1 wrote: ↑22:26 Thu 22 May 2025
+ Guest, Graham V. (not certain, but I think he promised me, if he failed to attend, a Dow 1878).
Current draft of
the placemats, with images in the
the first post. As usual, somebody please check.
Who will print?
Edit: GJV is in. The
placemats have been updated.
Placemats appear to be correct.
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 19:06 Sun 25 May 2025
by jdaw1
Re: Tuesday 27th May 2025 - 1985s @ 40
Posted: 19:13 Sun 25 May 2025
by jdaw1
My plan is to open the
Fonseca on Monday night, the
Warre on Tuesday morning, and decant both Tuesday morning. Any objection?