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2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 22:29 Wed 23 Jul 2025
by Alex Bridgeman
Elsewhere Christopher suggested / requested a tasting of “the best of the best” from the 1990s. I’m very happy to make this the 2026 tasting I arrange.
But the first challenge is — assuming we have 14 people and 14 bottles at the tasting table — what do we consider to be the 14 best bottles from the 1990s? Which Ports do we want to have at the tasting?
Once we have that sorted, I’ll start to put the next steps in place to make our tasting happen.
I’d suggest Taylor 1992; Taylor, Fonseca and Vesuvio 1994; Noval Nacional 1994 and 1997.
Edit: The people who have expressed an interest in attending (either in this thread or in the review thread) are:
- Me - AHB
- George
- Mike Meehan
- Martin
- Rich
- Christopher
- Justin
- Charles
- Mike Charlton
- Mike JW
- Julian
- Michael Mee
- Phil
- Harry
- Rummy
- Moses (and Elys)
- Ian
- Ben
- Cliff
- Neil
We’ll either limit to 14 attendees or ask for two bottles (or a magnum!) of each Port. I’ll make that decision once a date has been fixed and consequently some people have to drop out due to diary clashes.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 02:37 Thu 24 Jul 2025
by Mike J. W.
The 1995 Smith Woodhouse Madalena is nice as is the 1994 Ferreira. 1992 Fonseca?
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 08:26 Thu 24 Jul 2025
by winesecretary
My expanded suggestions…
From 1997, Dow, Noval and Warre.
From 1994 Noval, Vesuvio, Dow, Graham, Warre
From 1992 Taylor and Fonseca and Vesuvio
From 1991 Taylor Vargellas and Croft
Possibly plus 1995 TVVV? I remember with great fondness a bottle Charles brought along to a tasting about 5 years ago.
Possibly plus a couple of reserves in case of duffers.
Further edited to comment - haven’t tried either of those NNs as far as I know but happy to contribute to their group adoption. I have TV and Cr 1991, T, F, and V 1992 and W and V 1994.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 09:28 Thu 24 Jul 2025
by flash_uk
Some musings on top of George's list, which has 14 ports if TVVV95 is included:
- TV91 and Cr91 would be towards the top of my list of '91s, but are they some of the best from the 1990s?
- F94 and T94 might merit some consideration
- as might F97 and T97, though with these, getting into territory where I'm not sure there is a depth of experience of them to actually know if they are great
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 10:30 Thu 24 Jul 2025
by winesecretary
All of flash_uk's comments are entirely fair, although I am not sure either Cr91 nor TV91 would come last in the above tasting. They are very likeable ports.
Currently, last T94 note is from 1994 horizontal in 2021. It's fair to say it was not universally liked.
Currently, last F94 note is also from 1994 horizontal in 2021. It was quite highly rated but described as 'desperately in need of another quarter century in the cellar' by Alex.
Currently, last T97 note is from the 1997 vertical in 2022.
Currently, penultimate F97 note is from the 1997 vertical in 2022. The most recent one, from Zak, describes it as 'a little awkward perhaps'
Happily, this tasting will be held after the Taylor vertical planned for 28 October 2025 so we will have had a recent chance to sample the 1992, 1994, and 1997 side by side, which will allow for more informed commentary.
Hmmm. It seems to be a very long time since there has been a Fonseca vertical. A new thread will ensue.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 20:33 Thu 24 Jul 2025
by nac
Supposedly the TVVV97 is also extremely good but ridiculously rare.
Agree with comments about TV91 - always excellent.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 21:43 Thu 24 Jul 2025
by rich_n
I have at least (and possibly at most as I cannot check the cellar due to mobility issues) 1991 and 1997 Dow.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 22:13 Thu 24 Jul 2025
by jdaw1
Yes please. I love fruity Port.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 07:50 Fri 25 Jul 2025
by Bertie3000
Yes please. I can confirm what I have once list settles.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 13:10 Fri 25 Jul 2025
by PhilW
Sounds like a good idea.
For me the must-haves would be F92, V94, W97 (for current drinking).
The would-like-to-haves (to see if they're ready yet) would add F94, T94; I haven't tried the NNs.
For comparison I would add nice-to-haves of T92, G94, and V97.
One option could be a matrix of F/T/V/W/G/NN from (91/)92/94/97.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 17:34 Fri 25 Jul 2025
by hadge
yes please, depending on date, i'm sure that i will have something that fits the final line up.
the other way to do this is, people send the host their top 3 wines from the 90's and then host advise what you bring from that list. we could do this blind then?
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 17:42 Fri 25 Jul 2025
by Mike J. W.
I just opened up a '95 Vesuvio as it was "next up" and it is very nice. It might be better than the '97 version.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 17:45 Fri 25 Jul 2025
by Mike J. W.
hadge wrote: ↑17:34 Fri 25 Jul 2025
yes please, depending on date, i'm sure that i will have something that fits the final line up.
the other way to do this is, people send the host their top 3 wines from the 90's and then host advise what you bring from that list. we could do this blind then?
That's a good idea Harry. And maybe save a few slots on the listing for one or two of the TVV's or NN's as not everyone has had those so the weighting of favorites might be discriminatory towards them?
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 19:34 Fri 25 Jul 2025
by hadge
Mike there is always room for the 3 extra bottles.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 20:46 Fri 25 Jul 2025
by mcoulson
Blind is a great idea ....
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 20:58 Fri 25 Jul 2025
by jdaw1
hadge wrote: ↑19:34 Fri 25 Jul 2025Mike there is always room for the 3 extra bottles.
On the Hay coat of arms, the family motto:
Semper est locus tribus ampullis additis.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 22:03 Fri 25 Jul 2025
by winesecretary
Blind is a great idea.
I would propose a strict 14 (17 allowing for Harry) bottle limit though.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 22:21 Fri 25 Jul 2025
by jdaw1
Three is two more than one.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 07:40 Sat 26 Jul 2025
by winesecretary
I am simply trying to allow for enthusiasm…
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 07:50 Sat 26 Jul 2025
by mcoulson
winesecretary wrote: ↑07:40 Sat 26 Jul 2025
I am simply trying to allow for enthusiasm…
nothing wrong with enthusiasm ..... and theres lots of it around ....
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 07:58 Sat 26 Jul 2025
by idj123
I’m probably being somewhat restrictive but for me the best of the 90s would consist of T 92 and F 92 with the rest of the lineup being made up of 94s! However, in the interests of a tasting a wider distribution is perhaps best.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 09:50 Sat 26 Jul 2025
by hadge
Interesting Ian but there is some 97's that I think are wonderful and would give the 94s a run for the money or be better.
That is why I came up with my idea.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 09:52 Sat 26 Jul 2025
by hadge
jdaw1 wrote: ↑20:58 Fri 25 Jul 2025
hadge wrote: ↑19:34 Fri 25 Jul 2025Mike there is always room for the 3 extra bottles.
On the Hay coat of arms, the family motto:
Semper est locus tribus ampullis additis.
Very good Julian, I will have to ask Lord Lyon if we can change the motto from "Serva Jugum" to "Semper est locus tribus ampullis additis"
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 16:03 Sat 26 Jul 2025
by flash_uk
hadge wrote: ↑09:52 Sat 26 Jul 2025
jdaw1 wrote: ↑20:58 Fri 25 Jul 2025
hadge wrote: ↑19:34 Fri 25 Jul 2025Mike there is always room for the 3 extra bottles.
On the Hay coat of arms, the family motto:
Semper est locus tribus ampullis additis.
Very good Julian, I will have to ask Lord Lyon if we can change the motto from "Serva Jugum" to "Semper est locus tribus ampullis additis"
I always thought the motto was "magna forma solum".
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 23:07 Sun 27 Jul 2025
by rich_n
hadge wrote: ↑09:50 Sat 26 Jul 2025
Interesting Ian but there is some 97's that I think are wonderful and would give the 94s a run for the money or be better.
That is why I came up with my idea.
I would love to hear your thoughts on which, as they are very affordable at auction at the moment, and I'd like to acquire a broader range.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 06:12 Mon 28 Jul 2025
by winesecretary
@ rich_n - from a group perspective, Dow, Warre, Graham, Vesuvio, Noval all showed well at the 1997 horizontal but I have few more recent data points.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 14:29 Mon 28 Jul 2025
by rich_n
Thanks, I have the Dow, but looking to add a few more. I remember seeing positive things about the GC, which might be an undervalued wine compared to the others mentioned.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 14:31 Mon 28 Jul 2025
by winesecretary
@ rich_n - after that tasting, I recall I did buy half a case of GC… for about £36 a bottle I think.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 15:31 Mon 28 Jul 2025
by rich_n
winesecretary wrote: ↑14:31 Mon 28 Jul 2025
@ rich_n - after that tasting, I recall I did buy half a case of GC… for about £36 a bottle I think.
I'm after the same. I think I might be able to get hold of the Smith-Woodhouse (which according to the notes I was pretty positive about) at ~£33 a bottle delivered, so I will likely pull the trigger on that in the next day or so.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 17:34 Mon 28 Jul 2025
by Mike J. W.
rich_n wrote: ↑15:31 Mon 28 Jul 2025
winesecretary wrote: ↑14:31 Mon 28 Jul 2025
@ rich_n - after that tasting, I recall I did buy half a case of GC… for about £36 a bottle I think.
I'm after the same. I think I might be able to get hold of the Smith-Woodhouse (which according to the notes I was pretty positive about) at ~£33 a bottle delivered, so I will likely pull the trigger on that in the next day or so.
I think Smith Woodhouse is an underloved Port. It's also a great QPR.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 20:44 Mon 28 Jul 2025
by hadge
rich_n wrote: ↑23:07 Sun 27 Jul 2025
hadge wrote: ↑09:50 Sat 26 Jul 2025
Interesting Ian but there is some 97's that I think are wonderful and would give the 94s a run for the money or be better.
That is why I came up with my idea.
I would love to hear your thoughts on which, as they are very affordable at auction at the moment, and I'd like to acquire a broader range.
Rich, I'm very much enjoying the Graham (had an excellent one a few months ago) and the Gould Campbell.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 22:43 Mon 28 Jul 2025
by rich_n
hadge wrote: ↑20:44 Mon 28 Jul 2025
rich_n wrote: ↑23:07 Sun 27 Jul 2025
hadge wrote: ↑09:50 Sat 26 Jul 2025
Interesting Ian but there is some 97's that I think are wonderful and would give the 94s a run for the money or be better.
That is why I came up with my idea.
I would love to hear your thoughts on which, as they are very affordable at auction at the moment, and I'd like to acquire a broader range.
Rich, I'm very much enjoying the Graham (had an excellent one a few months ago) and the Gould Campbell.
Good to know, Harry - both are on my list, particularly the GC which looks like it might be rather affordable when spotted at auction.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 17:07 Tue 29 Jul 2025
by Rummy
Very interesting, would like to attend if possible.
F92 is one of my all time favourites, I think I've got about two dozen of them left.
Skeffington made an amazingly good 94, anyone has had that recently?
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 15:36 Wed 30 Jul 2025
by mosesbotbol
'94 Ramos Pinto should be considered.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 19:49 Wed 30 Jul 2025
by nac
winesecretary wrote: ↑22:03 Fri 25 Jul 2025
Blind is a great idea.
I would propose a strict 14 (17 allowing for Harry) bottle limit though.
Much as I generally dislike large-scale blind tastings, it’s probably a good idea here.
Have a lot of the 97s and various other suitable candidates.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 22:43 Mon 04 Aug 2025
by Alex Bridgeman
With 10 people having expressed an interest (subject to a date being set) there is enough interest to make this event happen.
I'll do a bit of due diligence to set a date and then post something...
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 16:29 Fri 08 Aug 2025
by mosesbotbol
Elys and I could be interested in attending.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 16:43 Fri 08 Aug 2025
by idj123
Yes, please, sir!
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Posted: 19:20 Fri 08 Aug 2025
by benread
Date permitting the idea is rather appealing! I may have a bottle of 1995 TVVV available. Possibly others but less exciting!
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Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 21:54 Fri 08 Aug 2025
by hadge
hadge wrote: ↑17:34 Fri 25 Jul 2025
yes please, depending on date, i'm sure that i will have something that fits the final line up.
the other way to do this is, people send the host their top 3 wines from the 90's and then host advise what you bring from that list. we could do this blind then?
i think that my post above was miss for being interested. thanks
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 23:45 Sat 09 Aug 2025
by Alex Bridgeman
Given some recent correspondence with Mike J.W. It is very likely that I’ll choose a date in late June or July next year to maximise his chances of attending.
@Moses - would that sort of timing work for you and Elys? It would be absolutely splendid to see you again after such a long time.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 20:06 Tue 19 Aug 2025
by cem
I'll likely be in the UK then so please stick me down for this. I think the 91s are drinking very nicely now. TV91 is undeniably excellent and I am quite partial to Croft 91 too. NN96 would be in with a good shout in the top 14. I've always really enjoyed Vesuvio 95. Probably biased as I have fond memories of consuming 2 bottles on a Thai ferry with a couple of ladies I met on said ferry many moons ago.
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 08:59 Wed 20 Aug 2025
by nac
Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑22:43 Mon 04 Aug 2025
With 10 people having expressed an interest (subject to a date being set) there is enough interest to make this event happen.
I'll do a bit of due diligence to set a date and then post something...
Also a "yes".
Re: 2026, date TBA: The Best of the Best from the 1990s
Posted: 14:11 Wed 20 Aug 2025
by mosesbotbol
Alex Bridgeman wrote: ↑23:45 Sat 09 Aug 2025
Given some recent correspondence with Mike J.W. It is very likely that I’ll choose a date in late June or July next year to maximise his chances of attending.
@Moses - would that sort of timing work for you and Elys? It would be absolutely splendid to see you again after such a long time.
Spring works better for us than in the summer. We could be flexible on it. She is wanting to visit the UK.