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Different labels
Posted: 19:09 Wed 16 Jul 2008
by ac-fast
Now i have recived my 3 bottels of Noval 66 - then i notice that there are 2 different labels.
Is it because that one of them is bottled in Denmark, and the other in Portugal or ???????????
Help....
Posted: 19:38 Wed 16 Jul 2008
by DRT
Can you post photos please?
Different labels are quite common prior to the 1970s
Posted: 19:56 Wed 16 Jul 2008
by ac-fast
I try....Here is the pics
Posted: 19:58 Wed 16 Jul 2008
by ac-fast
Posted: 01:15 Thu 17 Jul 2008
by g-man
them bottles are a beauty ..
not that it answers your question =)
What language are the labels?
Posted: 04:18 Thu 17 Jul 2008
by jdaw1
More resolution please. What language are the labels? Are they labelled for different markets? (UK, USA, Ireland.) The left one, as best I can see, is Oporto bottled. Is the right one?
Posted: 09:48 Thu 17 Jul 2008
by uncle tom
UK and other overseas bottlers seem to have had various arrangements with the shippers regarding labels.
I know Cockburn required the bottler to submit a proof of the label for approval.
Graham appear to have supplied labels for use by the bottlers, as they are very consistent. Delaforce also seems to have followed this path.
I believe Sandeman UK bottled themselves, applying their elaborate label; but also supplied to other bottlers, who seem to have been free to label as they chose.
Noval appears to have required a house style to be observed, with red stencil text, either on a black background, or directly onto the glass.
Dow may have had a preferred font for the word Dow, but otherwise appear to have been unconcerned about labelling.
Taylor liked to have its trademark embossed in the wax, and may also have had a preferred font for the word Taylor.
There is no evidence that Warre were at all bothered about labelling, and may even have discouraged it, as so few old Warre bottles have original labels.
Tom
Posted: 11:21 Thu 17 Jul 2008
by mosesbotbol
One on the left reminds me of a Nacional style label.
Posted: 17:09 Thu 17 Jul 2008
by ac-fast
Yes, both bottles are bolted in Porto
One of my Portwine friends told me that is normal with differents labels.
He had also diff. labels for 2 bottels of nationals, and some Borges.
Posted: 19:11 Thu 17 Jul 2008
by uncle tom
With Oporto bottlings you sometimes get different labels for wine released at different times.
Best example of this is the Graham '70, which at release had the old small lables, but later releases had the new larger format.
Personally, I think the older style is the better, aesthetically...
Tom
Posted: 20:00 Fri 18 Jul 2008
by Axel P
Most of the producers do sell their ports in "waves". I had that recently on the 85s of Taylors. Since the label style varies with age, some producers put their new label (or lets say: newer label) on the bottle when they sell it, as most producers will not label all their bottles at the same time, but when they are sold to make the label look fresh.
Axel
Posted: 11:19 Sat 19 Jul 2008
by ac-fast
Thanks everybody for helping....
I have noticed that, there are also 2 differents types of bottles, the differents is the "neck".
The first one is bottled in Denmark, and the other 3 in Porto.
Posted: 09:23 Wed 23 Jul 2008
by Roy Hersh
Actually there is an entirely different reason, not yet mentioned.
The Shippers produce different labels for different countries/markets. So the identical bottling can be labeled differently depending on where it is going to be shipped. This also requires a different batch of Selo labels as well.
For example, in the photos of the Noval bottlings ... the one on the left I believe was labeled for the USA.
Through auctions, grey market retailers and even bottles being hand carried overseas ... bottles from other markets can easily make their way to other countries.
different labels for different countries
Posted: 11:12 Wed 23 Jul 2008
by jdaw1
Roy Hersh wrote:Actually there is an entirely different reason, not yet mentioned.
The Shippers produce different labels for different countries/markets.
We weren’t that slow.
jdaw1 wrote:Are they labelled for different markets? (UK, USA, Ireland.)