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2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 16:57 Mon 23 Mar 2009
by DRT
This thread to be used to announce confirmed declarations for 2007 VP.

Wines identified in posts below will be listed in this header as they are announced:
  1. Andresen
  2. Barros
  3. Broadbent
  4. Burmester
  5. Cálem
  6. Churchill
  7. Churchill Gricha
  8. Cockburn
  9. Cockburn Quinta dos Canais
  10. Conceito - a joint venture between Ricardo Diogo Freitas (of Barbeito) and Rita Ferreira Marques.
  11. Croft
  12. Dalva Presidential (bronze medal in 2010 DWWA Awards)
  13. Delaforce
  14. Dow
  15. Duorum
  16. Ferreira
  17. Feuerheerd from Quinta Dona Matilde (silver medal in 2010 DWWA Awards)
  18. Fonseca
  19. Gould Campbell
  20. Graham
  21. Hooper
  22. Kopke
  23. Krohn Quinta Retiro Novo
  24. Martinez
  25. Maynard
  26. Messias
  27. Messias Quinta do Cachao
  28. Miguel's
  29. Morgadio da Calcada by Dirk Niepoort
  30. Niepoort
  31. Niepoort Pisca
  32. Offley Boa Vista
  33. Pintas
  34. Pocas
  35. Pousada
  36. Quarles Harris
  37. Quevedo
  38. Quinta da Pedra Alta (I own some!)
  39. Quinta da Romaneira
  40. Quinta das Lamelas
  41. Quinta de la Rosa (5,000 bottles)
  42. Quinta de Roriz
  43. Quinta de Val da Figueira;
  44. Quinta de Santa Eufémia
  45. Quinta de Vale Meao
  46. Quinta do Crasto
  47. Quinta do Infantado
  48. Quinta do Noval
  49. Quinta do Noval Silval
  50. Quinta do Passadouro
  51. Quinta do Portal
  52. Quinta do Tedo
  53. Quinta do Tedo Savedra
  54. Quinta do Vale da Dona Maria
  55. Quinta do Vesuvio (24,000 bottles)
  56. Quinta do Vesuvio Capela (3,000 bottles)
  57. Quinta Dona Matilde (gold medal in 2010 DWWA Awards)
  58. Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo
  59. Ramos-Pinto
  60. Ramos-Pinto Quinta de Ervamoira
  61. Real Companhia Velha (added 28-Jun-2016 when seen for sale at Duty Free in Oporto airport)
  62. Royal Oporto
  63. Royal Oporto Quinta das Carvalhas
  64. Rozes Terras do GriFo
  65. Sandeman
  66. Sao Leonardo from Quinto do Mourao
  67. Skeffington
  68. Smith Woodhouse
  69. Taylor
  70. Taylor Quinta de Vargellas Vinha Velha
  71. Vista Alegre
  72. Warre
Links to other vintages:
2023, 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005
Roy Hersh wrote:To the best of my knowledge based on what key individuals at these firms have said, these producers are not going to declare 2007.

Krohn
Quinta do Cotto/Champalimaud
Casal Jordoes
C. da Silva
Borges - still under consideration
Roy Hersh wrote:Vasconcellos - confirmed just now that they won't declare 2007.

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 16:59 Mon 23 Mar 2009
by DRT
In an email to me today...
Verena Niepoort wrote:Vintage 2007 is now official. It is approved by the IVDP. We plan to bottle the wine in May
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Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 09:22 Tue 24 Mar 2009
by Axel P
Vale Meao will declare a 2007 as well.

Axel

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 09:25 Tue 24 Mar 2009
by uncle tom
Can I suggest that we add the IB release prices (retail prices) as they become known - it would make an interesting archive to compare against future auction prices.

Tom

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 15:08 Tue 24 Mar 2009
by jdaw1
uncle tom wrote:Can I suggest that we add the IB release prices (retail prices) as they become known - it would make an interesting archive to compare against future auction prices.
Good idea.

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 10:28 Tue 31 Mar 2009
by RonnieRoots
So, with all the information on FTLOP the following can also be added to the list:

- Graham
- Warre
- Dow
- Martinez
- Quinta do Vesuvio
- Gould Campbell
- Quarles Harris
- Smith Woodhouse
- Quinta do Vale d. Maria
- Quinta de Roriz
- Quinta do Crasto

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 13:33 Tue 31 Mar 2009
by Axel P
Passadouro and Pintas. Andresen. Pocas Jr. and Pousada. LaRosa. Quevedo.

Look out for Passadouro - good stuff!

I spoke to many producers the last couple of days and found none of them who will not produce a VP 07. The only one who was unsure was Dona Matilde.

Axel

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 20:21 Tue 31 Mar 2009
by DRT
List updated to this point. Keep em coming :wink: 88)

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 15:03 Mon 06 Apr 2009
by Axel P
Sandeman, Offley and Ferreira.

Axel

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 15:03 Mon 06 Apr 2009
by Axel P
Cockburn and Canais, Messias and Cachao.

Axel

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 17:50 Tue 14 Apr 2009
by Axel P
Sogevinus has declared all their leading brands: Kopke, Burmester, Calem, Barros.

Axel

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 23:13 Fri 17 Apr 2009
by Alex Bridgeman
Churchill - in Johnny Churchill's blog

Request to thread author - could you put the list on the first post into alphabetical order please?

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 23:28 Fri 17 Apr 2009
by jdaw1
List updated to this point. Keep ’em coming.

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 16:56 Mon 20 Apr 2009
by SushiNorth
here we are, just twiddling our thumbs til thursday...

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 21:37 Tue 21 Apr 2009
by DRT
A general discussion kicked-off at this point and has been moved to a separate thread here.

DRT (Admin2)

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 10:07 Wed 22 Apr 2009
by Axel P
Ramos Pinto and Ervamoira, too

Axel

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 11:44 Wed 22 Apr 2009
by ajfeather
FYI when I spoke to the importers of Romaneira at the Lords Potrugal tasting last month they indicated that 2007 would be declared. According to Tanners the importer is no moer and I have not been able to confirm whether it actually was (the Romaneira web site appears to be oriented to tourist).

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 09:10 Thu 23 Apr 2009
by DRT
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Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 09:36 Thu 23 Apr 2009
by Roy Hersh
To the best of my knowledge based on what key individuals at these firms have said, these producers are not going to declare 2007.

Krohn
Quinta do Cotto/Champalimaud
Casal Jordoes
C. da Silva
Borges - still under consideration

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 10:50 Thu 23 Apr 2009
by DRT
List updated to this point and I have quoted Roy's post above in the header post to keep declarations and known non-declarations together.

I will try to find out about Romaniera through another route :wink:

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 13:28 Thu 23 Apr 2009
by g-man
are we going to keep track of 2007 price declarations too?

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 13:44 Thu 23 Apr 2009
by DRT
g-man wrote:are we going to keep track of 2007 price declarations too?
As soon as they start declaring prices we will be all over them like a rash :wink:

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 15:31 Thu 23 Apr 2009
by Roy Hersh
Romaneira will ... but hasn't yet.


Vasconcellos - confirmed just now that they won't declare 2007.

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 15:37 Thu 23 Apr 2009
by DRT
Roy Hersh wrote:Romaneira will ... but hasn't yet.
I had this confirmed by another very reliable source this afternoon.

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 19:01 Thu 23 Apr 2009
by Axel P
Although unconfirmed I was told that I would get a strong support from Noval for my german VP tasting next year. I guess that should mean something, but nothing official yet.

Axel

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 19:27 Thu 23 Apr 2009
by DRT
Axel P wrote:Although unconfirmed I was told that I would get a strong support from Noval for my german VP tasting next year. I guess that should mean something, but nothing official yet.
My understanding is that they will declare Noval and Silval but Nacional is not yet decided.

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 03:18 Fri 24 Apr 2009
by jdaw1
There’s a trade function in NY on Monday at which Noval and Romaneira will be presented.

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 17:15 Fri 24 Apr 2009
by Axel P
Delaforce and RCV are declaring, too. That solves the mistery about the brand's future, I guess.

Axel

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 08:31 Sat 25 Apr 2009
by Axel P
Portal is declaring, too.

Axel

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 08:19 Mon 27 Apr 2009
by uncle tom
Delaforce and RCV are declaring, too. That solves the mistery about the brand's future, I guess
Do you know who made the Delaforce? Is it still a wine based mainly on grapes from Q. Corte, or an RCV wine from Q. Carvalhas etc..?

Tom

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 18:59 Mon 27 Apr 2009
by Axel P
I asked exactly this question to my contact at RCV and as well asked for some more info concerning a possible strategy for the future of Delaforce since I do not really believe that the brand fits into the PORTfolio of RCV. Let you know asap.

Other impressions, please?

Axel

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 22:34 Mon 27 Apr 2009
by DRT
List updated to this point.

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 22:46 Mon 27 Apr 2009
by DRT
In addition to their classic Vintage Port, Niepoort will declare an SQVP produced from grapes from their Pisca vineyard.

Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHPxKUd6vio - link cross-posted from :ftlop:

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 00:33 Tue 28 Apr 2009
by SushiNorth
OK, so about that video...
1) Go Dirk. That they went and put this on youtube is a great move. It also lets me "meet Dirk" and he's got a very pleasant demeanor.
2) I don't necessarily agree with his analysis of N07, but I think he fairly describes what we were hearing about conditions that year. Also gave some interesting backstory about Pisca.
Perhaps some of the others will take a cue from this and talk about their wines.

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 02:27 Tue 28 Apr 2009
by jdaw1
Readers might also be interested in the thread The 2007 Vintage Port Declaration: Preview Tasting New York, which includes comment on prices. (Low-bandwidth users might be less interested: the first page of that thread contains 5.4 megabytes of pictures.)

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 09:57 Tue 28 Apr 2009
by JacobH
Based on Julian's post, should Quinta de Vargellas Vinha Velha be added to the list?

I hadn't noticed this before, but there seems to be the beginnings of a trend of shippers declaring both a SQVP and a VP in the same year.

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 21:51 Sun 03 May 2009
by DRT
JacobH wrote:Based on Julian's post, should Quinta de Vargellas Vinha Velha be added to the list?
Will do so now.
JacobH wrote:I hadn't noticed this before, but there seems to be the beginnings of a trend of shippers declaring both a SQVP and a VP in the same year.
Perhaps this is in part a reaction to the demand for wines that can be drunk young whilst allowing the shippers to also make long term keepers?

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 14:31 Tue 05 May 2009
by RonnieRoots
The first official prices came in:

- Fonseca 2007: € 73,50
- Taylor's 2007: € 59,95

As listed on the site of Ton Overmars in Amsterdam, who is usually quite competitive in pricing. These prices are lower than the 2003's on release. Good news.

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 16:10 Tue 05 May 2009
by Glenn E.
RonnieRoots wrote:The first official prices came in:

- Fonseca 2007: € 73,50
- Taylor's 2007: € 59,95

As listed on the site of Ton Overmars in Amsterdam, who is usually quite competitive in pricing. These prices are lower than the 2003's on release. Good news.
Whether that's per bottle or per case it gets the same reaction from me:

:shock:

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 16:17 Tue 05 May 2009
by jdaw1
‟per fles” = per bottle.

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 16:40 Tue 05 May 2009
by g-man
i wonder what the state side prices are then. ..

the 03 fonseca was 49$ when i picked it up

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 18:36 Tue 05 May 2009
by DRT
RonnieRoots wrote:The first official prices came in:

- Fonseca 2007: € 73,50
- Taylor's 2007: € 59,95

As listed on the site of Ton Overmars in Amsterdam, who is usually quite competitive in pricing. These prices are lower than the 2003's on release. Good news.
With the £:€ exchange rate at as good as 1:1 those are prices that will prevent me from buying any 2007s for a very long time to come. £70 for a bottle of 2 year old VP that I won't drink for 20 years just doesn't make sense to me :roll:

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 18:37 Tue 05 May 2009
by DRT
Should we put prices in a new thread?

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 19:06 Tue 05 May 2009
by uncle tom
Should we put prices in a new thread?
We should certainly distinguish between prices for different markets & merchants, and possibly sales qty

Why not add lines beneath each declared VP such as:

Fonseca
- Ton Overmars (NL) €73,50/75cL

Tom

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 07:07 Wed 06 May 2009
by Alex Bridgeman
RonnieRoots wrote:- Fonseca 2007: € 73,50
- Taylor's 2007: € 59,95
Holy Cow!! That Fonseca price is astonishing. I paid £31 a bottle, on release and in bond, for my Fonseca 2003 and I've seen them at auction in the £27-35 per bottle range.

No way will I pay £66 per bottle for the 2007 (or even £54 for the Taylor). Sorry TFP, but if those are the prices then the UK will buy absolutely nothing.

Ouch! :cry:

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 07:42 Wed 06 May 2009
by uncle tom
Holy Cow!! That Fonseca price is astonishing. I paid £31 a bottle, on release and in bond, for my Fonseca 2003 and I've seen them at auction in the £27-35 per bottle range.
Indeed, but Dutch prices have been very high (in recent years, at least) - hopefully they are not planning to ask such a ludicrous sum in the UK.

The UK auction price for the 2003 has been about £260 - £280/case, barely a third of the Dutch release price for the '07...

Tom

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 08:01 Wed 06 May 2009
by RonnieRoots
The '03 release prices of Fonseca and Taylor were about €90 and €75 in the Netherlands. Very expensive, and that's mostly due to the Dutch importers and their ridiculous mark-ups. So this is a step in the right direction. But I agree it's hardly attractive with the current €/£ exchange rate.

Back in 2005 I was tempted to buy Fonseca 03 from BBR, which had a much better price. Including VAT, duty and shipping to the Netherlands it would come down to about €55 a bottle. I managed to find them for the same price closer to home back then, so didn't do it eventually, but just to give you an idea of price differences between NL and UK.

If the prices are right in the UK this time, it would be very attractive for me to buy there, given that I'm on the right side of the low £.

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 21:14 Wed 06 May 2009
by DRT
AHB sent me an email earlier today and asked me to post this on his behalf as he has other things to attend to this evening:
AHB wrote:At a presentation of 2000, 2003 and 2007 vintage ports by the Taylor Fladgate Partnership, the Symington Family and Noval / Christian Seely, the following interesting items of information were gleaned:

- Retail prices for the 2007 TFP wines are likely to be around 10% higher than the 2003 prices. This reflects a combination of significantly weaker sterling offset by reduced prices reflecting the economic climate. In the order of £45 per bottle in bond for Taylor and Fonseca and £30-35 for Croft.

- TFP and Adrian Bridge in particular are determined to make Croft one of the top tier port producers.

- The growing season was compared by Adrian Bridge to that of 1966 and the bouquet of the wines to those of the 1992 vintage.

- Taylors will be making mixed cases available through their agents, containing 2 bottles Croft, 2 Fonseca and 2 Taylor. This was being pitched at the gift market but I pointed out that this was also perfect for the poor modern consumer forced to use offsite storage where the storage company would only hold unbroken and unmixed cases. Perfect for having balanced drinking by the case in 20 years time.

- Taylors offer to retailers was issued last week and the Symingtons offer went out this morning. Prices to us, the consumers, should be available soon.

- Adrian did not use apostrophes at all during his conversations.

- The Symingtons have entered the ultra-fine port market with Vesuvio Capela. This is a Susao containing blend of super selected grapes with only 250 cases being released.

- Other wines being shipped by the Symingtons include the regular Vesuvio, Graham, Dow, Warre, Smith Woodhouse, Gould Campbell and Quarles Harris.

- Taylors will also be releasing a Skeffington 2007 blend.

- There is a further presentation of 2007 ports on 19th May at Vintners Hall.

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 21:22 Wed 06 May 2009
by jdaw1
DRT wrote:
AHB wrote:- The Symingtons have entered the ultra-fine port market with Vesuvio Capela. This is a Susao containing blend of super selected grapes with only 250 cases being released.
Not mentioned on the rather sparse www.quintadovesuvio.com/pt/news.asp, nor on the differently sparse www.quintadovesuvio.com/news.asp.

Re: 2007 Vintage Port Declarations

Posted: 21:53 Wed 06 May 2009
by g-man
repost from spectator, Suckling's reviews.

"I was spellbound by the top Vintage Ports of my tasting. They include: Taylor Fladgate Quinta de Vargellas Vinha Velha (97-100 points on Wine Spectator's 100-point scale), Graham (96-99) and Warre (95-98), followed by Dow, Quinta do Noval and Taylor Fladgate (all 94-97). These were the Ports that showed the best grip, the highest density and quality of ripe tannins, and opulent, sweet fruit."