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The Port Forum Offline #1 - 18th July 2007
Posted: 22:27 Wed 11 Jul 2007
by DRT
The 1st Offline organised by members of this forum will be held at The Crusting Pipe in Covent Garden, London on 18th July 2007.
Suggested starting time is 19:00
Attendees so far are:
- RonnieRoots
- LadyRoots
- AHB
- KillerB
- Uncle Tom
- Christopher Gee
- Mrs Gee
- Guest of Mr & Mrs Gee
- Derek T.
This will be a partially-sighted tasting, with most of the wines being served blind. Contributions offered to date are...
Table Wines:- Something Red (KillerB)
- Maybe Something Else (KillerB)
- Something Red (The Roots)
- Something White (The Roots)
- Quinta de Macedos 2000 (Christopher Gee)
Port::
- Niepoort 1977(KillerB)
- Maybe Something Else (KillerB)
- Something with 20% Alchohol (The Roots)
- Port1 (AHB)
- Port2 (AHB)
- Unknown Shipper 1955 (Uncle Tom)
- Port3 (Mr&Mrs Gee and Guest)
- Port4 (Mr&Mrs Gee and Guest)
- Port5 (Derek T.)
- Port6 (Derek T.)
If anyone wishes to join us please contact one of the attendees or post on this thread.
Derek T.
Thirteen is too many glasses for an A4 placemat
Posted: 01:04 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by jdaw1
Thirteen is too many glasses for an A4 placemat. What’s the largest paper size onto which an attendee can print?
Feel free to comment on
the current draft.
(Techno-dweebs only: source PostScript. There is extra complexity because of the two-page format.)
Posted: 07:46 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by DRT
jdaw,
I have split the list into Table Wines and Ports - could I suggest that one mat for each would be a practical solution?
Derek
Posted: 08:32 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by RonnieRoots
So you automatically assume that a wine with more or lesss than 20% alcohol and a notable amount of residual sugar is a port?
This looks very, very good and I'm very much looking forward to it!
Posted: 08:51 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by Alex Bridgeman
Christopher has managed to persuade both Mrs Gee and a port loving friend to be free on the evening of July 18th. All three will attend. Between them they will bring the Macedos plus at least two bottles of port.
Could I suggest that we amend the attendees list to reflect Mr & Mrs Christopher Gee and guest?
Also, did Al-K manage to speak to Ian yesterday? I've only just picked up the message that he would if I didn't want to.
Alex
Posted: 09:11 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by DRT
I have updated the lists above.
I think we need to try to secure the long table in the tunnel at the back of the restaurant - could AHB or KillerB use their charm on Ian, please?
Also, is everyone OK with a 7 pm start?
Thanks
Derek
Posted: 09:13 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by RonnieRoots
7PM is perfect for us.
Posted: 10:26 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by KillerB
7PM is a bit on the late side as I eventually have to get my sorry persona onto a train. As Ronnie is free I will happily meet up considerably earlier, even if it's just for a couple of pints of TT Landlord.
Posted: 10:52 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by DRT
I'm happy for it to be a bit earlier, but can't be there before 6pm
Derek
Posted: 11:17 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by RonnieRoots
KillerB wrote:7PM is a bit on the late side as I eventually have to get my sorry persona onto a train. As Ronnie is free I will happily meet up considerably earlier, even if it's just for a couple of pints of TT Landlord.
Earlier is fine as well. I think LadyR can be there from 6PM. I'm available whole day for pints.

Posted: 11:56 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by KillerB
Table has been booked for 9 people plus any stragglers from 6PM onwards. Ian maybe there at the beginning but we will be looked after anyway.
Placemat: next version
Posted: 13:35 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by jdaw1
Earlier post edited.
Also free to test whether it prints.
Posted: 17:13 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by DRT
jdaw,
It prints fine. Three observations:
1. Only 8 rings on the Ports TM but there are at least 9, possibly 10 ports coming along on the night. The 9th is a second port offered by The Gee's and the 10th being KillerB's "Maybe something else" - presumably the "Maybe Something Else" will only turn out to be either a Port or a Table Wine but for now we must allow for it being either or both.
2. Mrs Gee and Guest of Mr & Mrs Gee don't appear to have TM's
3. Jdaw has a TM - is he putting in a surprise appearance?
Derek
Placemat complaints answered
Posted: 17:32 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by jdaw1
Derek T. wrote:1. Only 8 rings on the Ports TM but there are at least 9, possibly 10 ports coming along on the night. The 9th is a second port offered by The Gee's and the 10th being KillerB's "Maybe something else" - presumably the "Maybe Something Else" will only turn out to be either a Port or a Table Wine but for now we must allow for it being either or both.
2. Mrs Gee and Guest of Mr & Mrs Gee don't appear to have TM's
Whoops: either those changes happened after I made the sheets, or I failed to notice it. Will be fixed within 24 hours. (Again I ask about larger paper: 10 glasses is a lot on one sheet of A4. Can you print on to legal (and what is the size of British legal paper?)?)
Derek T. wrote:3. Jdaw has a TM - is he putting in a surprise appearance?
I shall be there in spirit, even if not in person.
Posted: 17:38 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by DRT
I can only print on A4.
Let's give it a go and I'll try it out at home. If it's too tight we can always have the glasses around the outside sitting slightly off the edge of the paper. This may prove too much for OCD sufferers to cope with as the base of the glass will not be entirely contained within the appropriate ring but it may be the best we can do
Derek
A4 printing
Posted: 18:01 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by jdaw1
Derek T. wrote:I can only print on A4.
Others?
Derek T. wrote:This may prove too much for OCD sufferers to cope with as the base of the glass will not be entirely contained within the appropriate ring but it may be the best we can do
We can and will do better.
Posted: 19:01 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by Alex Bridgeman
If I get the chance tomorrow, I will try printing onto A3 and see if that works.
AHB to try printing onto A3
Posted: 20:35 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by jdaw1
AHB wrote:If I get the chance tomorrow, I will try printing onto A3 and see if that works.
Check here first: I might give you something to print.
Posted: 22:17 Thu 12 Jul 2007
by RonnieRoots
Only A4 here too.

Posted: 00:41 Fri 13 Jul 2007
by DRT
I have 4 possibilities standing on Death Row alongside Ronnie's WLBV95 -
I would tell you the average age of the bottles but KillerB would just moan about statistical relevance so I won't bother telling you it's 30.25 years

Too tired and emotional to do another version this evening.
Posted: 03:42 Fri 13 Jul 2007
by jdaw1
Too tired and emotional to do another version this evening. Maybe tomorrow morning.
Posted: 07:25 Fri 13 Jul 2007
by Alex Bridgeman
It prints well onto A3 paper, and fits very neatly.
I'm scheduled to be in my office on both Monday and Tuesday next week so could do the printing then.
Thanks for doing these Julian.
Alex
Posted: 08:26 Fri 13 Jul 2007
by KillerB
Derek T. wrote:I have 4 possibilities standing on Death Row alongside Ronnie's WLBV95 -
I would tell you the average age of the bottles but KillerB would just moan about statistical relevance so I won't bother telling you it's 30.25 years

There is nothing wrong with talking of an average age, it is a cumulative age which is bow legs.
Posted: 08:30 Fri 13 Jul 2007
by RonnieRoots
Derek, maybe if I told you that LadyR and I have an avere age of 31 (and that the lady is born in the wonderful vintage of KillerB's port), you could take that into account when making your final decision.
Julian: thanks for all the work!
Posted: 11:07 Fri 13 Jul 2007
by KillerB
Sadly, there is now a distinct possibility that I may not be able to make it. I have just heard some very bad news about the death of a relative and if the funeral is on that day I will be there, come what may.
I would come down to meet up with Ronnie and Lady Roots on another, as I don't want to miss them.
I will keep you all informed as to whether I will attend.
Posted: 11:32 Fri 13 Jul 2007
by RonnieRoots
That's very sad to hear. Condolances.
Keep us posted, we certainly don't want to miss you either.
Posted: 12:47 Fri 13 Jul 2007
by DRT
RonnieRoots wrote:Derek, maybe if I told you that LadyR and I have an avere age of 31 (and that the lady is born in the wonderful vintage of KillerB's port), you could take that into account when making your final decision.
Gotcha, a 5th bottle will now go on Death Row

- it will be that one plus one of the other 4 (plus your WLBV95) that make the trip.
Derek
Posted: 13:08 Fri 13 Jul 2007
by Alex Bridgeman
Alex,
Sorry to hear the bad news. I hope that all goes as well as it can under the circumstances.
Alex
Posted: 13:13 Fri 13 Jul 2007
by DRT
Alex,
Ditto
If you don't get down on Wednesday but intend coming another night please let me know. I'm in London Mon to Fri next week and happy to try that warm brown Landlord stuff you all keep banging on about.
Derek
Posted: 13:31 Fri 13 Jul 2007
by KillerB
I can definitely make it down for one day that the Rootses are here so all that can make that same day are welcome. It will be irrelevant if the funeral is not Wednesday or early Thursday.
Thanks for the kind words all. It's actually a closer relative of Treacle's but I am also deeply saddened by it.
OK, I’m at my computer about to re-do things
Posted: 13:54 Fri 13 Jul 2007
by jdaw1
OK, I’m at my computer about to re-do things, with one version on A4 and one on A3. Requests pronto, please.
Latest placemat
Posted: 14:13 Fri 13 Jul 2007
by jdaw1
The
current draft has been updated. Extra CG port added; extra guests including a blank who-knows guest; some tidying. KillerB’s complete mystery still on the non-port page: if it is port, as now looks less likely, you’ll just have to cope. Also with
the port page on A3.
Please do comment.
Posted: 14:18 Fri 13 Jul 2007
by KillerB
The mysterious one is Port
Maybe move several ports over to the non-port page?
Posted: 14:22 Fri 13 Jul 2007
by jdaw1
About to go to work. Unless you are sure that the glass will fit, 10 is too many for A4. Please test A3 printing. If that’s a go I’ll move it over. If not, new plan needed. Maybe move several ports over to the non-port page?
But KillerB is coming: great.
Posted: 14:35 Fri 13 Jul 2007
by KillerB
Not necessarily coming, but if I do then the mystery is a Port.
Posted: 12:10 Sun 15 Jul 2007
by KillerB
Looks highly likely that I will be there now, so back to Plan A.
Posted: 12:13 Sun 15 Jul 2007
by DRT
Glad to hear it. I liked Plan A
Derek
Posted: 16:18 Sun 15 Jul 2007
by RonnieRoots
Plan A looked like the better one to me too.

Posted: 19:53 Sun 15 Jul 2007
by DRT
OK - dumb question time
I have never been to a blind tasting where the port was to be served out of the original bottles. How do we hide the labels?
- Paper and sticky tape?
- Peel the labels off?
- Other?
Derek
Posted: 21:17 Sun 15 Jul 2007
by RonnieRoots
I was just thinking about the same. I can bring a couple of cardboard bottle sleeves. Those cover most of the bottle, except the neck. A different method would be to wrap the bottles in aluminium foil.
Posted: 21:27 Sun 15 Jul 2007
by DRT
RonnieRoots wrote:I was just thinking about the same. I can bring a couple of cardboard bottle sleeves. Those cover most of the bottle, except the neck. A different method would be to wrap the bottles in aluminium foil.
Excellent - I will go to the Sainsbury's next to the hotel when I arrive in London tomorrow and buy some Bakofoil
Ronnie, when do you and LadyR arrive in London? Where are you staying?
Derek
Posted: 22:16 Sun 15 Jul 2007
by RonnieRoots
LadyR arrived this evening, and I will be joining her Tuesday evening. We are staying in the Radisson Hampshire on Leicester Square.
Posted: 22:22 Sun 15 Jul 2007
by DRT
Hmmm, so LadyR and I are alone in London tomorrow night

Posted: 08:19 Mon 16 Jul 2007
by RonnieRoots
I knew there was a risk in sharing that information with you!

Posted: 09:26 Mon 16 Jul 2007
by Conky
Remember the attractive women in the Command Bunker???
Its all in his head!

Posted: 10:40 Mon 16 Jul 2007
by KillerB
KillerB: We're almost out of our 5 kg of stilton cheese... It's indeed time to meet up again.
Challenge accepted
Posted: 11:54 Mon 16 Jul 2007
by RonnieRoots
I have the feeling we're going to make a lot of people happy again.

Posted: 13:11 Mon 16 Jul 2007
by DRT
My contributions made it to London safely and are now standing in the wardrobe of my hotel room where they will remain undisturbed for 48 hours - provided my willpower remanis intact
Derek
No recent comment has been received on placemats.
Posted: 13:49 Mon 16 Jul 2007
by jdaw1
No recent comment has been received on placemats. Therefore nothing is happening. If that’s wrong, instruct.
Posted: 14:08 Mon 16 Jul 2007
by Alex Bridgeman
Julian et al
I am only just catching up with weekend postings and don't have the chance to print off mats and notes for all until tomorrow morning. However, I will do so as early as possible (around 7:30am) and will advise if anything goes wrong.
If all goes well then I will bring a big pile of big paper with me on Wednesday!
Alex