June Offline 21th June- Crusting pipe- 1982 horicontal

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 05:30 Tue 11 May 2010

Hi there,

when meeting Tom on Saturday we also discussed the possibilty of a 1982 horicontal to find out if there are any good. Hence this thread to find out if there is any interest.

The ports from 1982 i have are Ferreira, Delaforce, Croft and Noval. Please let us now which ports from 1982 you have and if you are interested. As an initial date suggestion the 14th or 15th of June came to my mind.

regards

WS1

attendees:

uncle Tom
WS1
Chris Doty
AHB
JacobH+1
DRT
Christopher (after 10 PM)

Chris Doty · Post by **Chris Doty** » 11:25 Tue 11 May 2010

Game.

Would like to adopt, as I have no 82s.

Thanks for the idea Wolfgang, should make for a rather curious evening.

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:13 Tue 11 May 2010

The N82 I have tasted once, and it was terrible. Not even a bad bottle: just thin. So an ’82 horizontal? Only if I’m in London anyway.

Willing to make placemats for the team though. When things are known, instruct in this thread.

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 21:33 Tue 11 May 2010

Hmm, I disagree the N82 is terrible, indeed it is not a very strong, meaty port, but still very good indeed. A bit lighter than the 1985 but fairly comparable in my eyes. Croft 82 is also lighter, but has in my eyes a decent finsh. Sandemann 82 so far was the best in my eyes.

Understood, that this offline is not justifying a trip to London; hope by accident you still will be in London for the offline. Will instruct with placemats if offline is going ahead. Thank you in advance for your help.

regards

WS1

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 19:36 Wed 12 May 2010

I can make either date, but would prefer Monday 14th.

I would have to adopt, the only 1982 vintage port. Is anyone willing to offer something for adoption?

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 20:54 Wed 12 May 2010

Alex,

do not worry, either Tom or myself will be able to sort you out. (adoption) Prefernce for Monday the 14th of June noted.

regards

WS1

benread · Post by **benread** » 21:24 Wed 12 May 2010

Wolfgang,

It is possible I may be able to make this if it is Monday 14th June. Let me know the consensus.

Likewise I have no 1982 so would need to acquire or adopt. I am in Porto in 2 weeks, so there may be a possibility there!

Ben

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:08 Wed 12 May 2010

benread wrote:Monday 14th June

Assuming which, draft of the placemats. The typeface has been chosen for being thin and ugly I hope the choice proves unfounded.

JacobH · Post by **JacobH** » 16:25 Thu 13 May 2010

I'd be keen for something on the 14th June, though also have no 1982. Do we have enough bottles for adoption? Or could we extend this to 1983?

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 18:17 Thu 13 May 2010

To Wolfgang's list I can add Churchill, Eira Velha & Sandeman.

So far we have six/seven attendees and seven bottles - just about enough for an event..

Tom

angeleyes · Post by **angeleyes** » 18:38 Thu 13 May 2010

I am a possible; though again I'd need to adopt, if anyone can oblige? I have '82 only in Colheita form (which presumably doesn't qualify!)

Post by **jdaw1** » 19:05 Thu 13 May 2010

Updated draft of the placemats.

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 22:06 Thu 13 May 2010

updated!

We are 7 people and 7 bts of Port.

Post by **DRT** » 23:39 Thu 13 May 2010

Some strategic planning is required but please put me and a Royal Oporto 1982 down as possibles.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 05:40 Fri 14 May 2010

A thought has just occurred to me. The Crusting Pipe becomes very warm as a venue in the summer. Last year we found that the warmth of the location in the height of the summer affected some of the ports quite badly, with them becoming very alcoholic. We overcame this with some ice buckets to keep teh bottles in and cool them down a little.

It might be worth booking three ice buckets at the same time as booking the table in a tunnel.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 07:23 Fri 14 May 2010

Annoyingly, I was putting this date in the family diary and realised that it is the week that Elizabeth is away on the school residential trip. I am therefore the parent in charge for a week and can't be late back from London.

Sorry, I will have to bow out unless we can move the date back a week to 21 June.

Post by **jdaw1** » 07:24 Fri 14 May 2010

Alternative plan: see how the Bowler performs next Wednesday, and then make a decision.

Post by **DRT** » 08:19 Fri 14 May 2010

AHB wrote:Sorry, I will have to bow out unless we can move the date back a week to 21 June.

That week would work equally well for me.

JacobH · Post by **JacobH** » 08:51 Fri 14 May 2010

The 21st should be fine for me too.

Could I be penciled in for a +1, too (assuming we can find enough bottles)?

Christopher · Post by **Christopher** » 16:14 Sun 16 May 2010

Please add me as well, I have a Niepoort 82 that I can bring.
Thanks

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 18:56 Sun 16 May 2010

Hi there,

updated as far as possible. If we finally choose to go to the Crusting pipe I think we need at least 3 ice buckets which i will preorder. Otherwise I am looking fwd to this since I quite like the 82s. Of course this is not a very strong year but drinking currently very nicely indeed.

regards

WS1

Post by **jdaw1** » 18:29 Sat 29 May 2010

Updated draft of the placemats.

Additional last page new technology. Note instruction ‟Record points, not rank.”

benread · Post by **benread** » 18:56 Mon 31 May 2010

benread wrote:Wolfgang,

It is possible I may be able to make this if it is Monday 14th June. Let me know the consensus.

Likewise I have no 1982 so would need to acquire or adopt. I am in Porto in 2 weeks, so there may be a possibility there!

Ben

Regrettably, since posting this, Nuala has had it confirmed she will be working 4 days a week with Monday being the 4th day. I am unable to attend.

The only good news is that she will be working from home on Thursdays in the future, so I may have a little more flexibility to attend tastings - Tuesday or Thursday in the future! NOt this one though I am afraid.

Post by **jdaw1** » 19:02 Mon 31 May 2010

Updated draft of the placemats.

”“BMHR.

Current draft has six people (WS CSD AHB JGH THRA MKD) but seven ports (Ch Cr Df EV Fr N S).

angeleyes · Post by **angeleyes** » 13:19 Tue 01 Jun 2010

Hi, unfortunately I cannot make it on this date either. Sorry to give you so much port to drink!

JacobH · Post by **JacobH** » 17:02 Tue 01 Jun 2010

jdaw1 wrote:Updated draft of the placemats.
”“BMHR.
Current draft has six people (WS CSD AHB JGH THRA MKD) but seven ports (Ch Cr Df EV Fr N S).

I think I should still be down for a JGH + 1, please (CHR; Caroline; R/H).

JacobH · Post by **JacobH** » 10:04 Fri 11 Jun 2010

We probably ought to give some further thought to this tasting as, if it goes ahead, it is only 10 days away.

I think the current situation is as follows:

Possible attendees: Port

uncle Tom: Churchill, Eira Velha & Sandeman
WS1: Ferreira, Delaforce, Croft and Noval
Chris Doty: adopt
AHB: adopt
JacobH+1: adopt (x2)
DRT?: Royal Oporto ("some strategic planning is required")
Christopher: Niepoort

I think we are therefore 8 with 9 bottles. I also note that the Sandeman '82 was the house VP at TCP the last time I was there. Perhaps, if we go to TCP, we could arrange the adoption of Uncle Tom's and Wolfgang's bottles to Chris, Alex and myself and group buy a Sandeman '82 off the list?

Alternatively, should we go to the Bowler?

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 16:16 Fri 11 Jun 2010

Jacob,

indeed we need to come to terms with this tasting. Apologies for me not having looked into this thread for quite a while since I was on holiday and was busy during this week. I contacted Derek and Christopher, Christopher is likely unable to attend for the whole tasting but will donate the Niepoort and intends to come to the TCP ~10 PM in the evening. Derek will update us next week.
With regards to the venue I am open to try new things (have not been to the bowler yet), but can update on how warm it is in the TCP since I will be there tomorrow and next Monday.
With regards to Ports I am fine with your suggestion.

regards

WS1

JacobH · Post by **JacobH** » 19:44 Fri 11 Jun 2010

Sounds like it’s all in hand

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 19:19 Sun 13 Jun 2010

Hi there,

after having had lunch in the Crusting Pipe yesterday i think we should be OK with regards to temprature etc.. Hence i would like to suggest to host the event at the Crusting Pipe.

regards

WS1

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 21:06 Sun 13 Jun 2010

Everything sounds fine to me. Could you give us a rough idea of the cost of adopting a bottle, please.

Post by **DRT** » 20:02 Mon 14 Jun 2010

I'm not going to be able to make this one due to having to be somewhere else

If the attendees run out of adoption options you could do what I was going to do and buy the RO82 from Davy's Wine Shop and have it ready for collection at TCP when you arrive. I think they deliver on Thursdays so if anyone is desperate for an RO82 they should order it now.

Derek

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 18:32 Tue 15 Jun 2010

Hi Derek,

this is sad news! When we will have the tasting we will toast north and will raise a glass on you.

Hopefully the 1982s shine otherwise you will laugh!

Otherwise I booked a table in the Crusting Pipe for 8 people next Monday starting at 6:30 PM. Will leave any ports not picked up from me or delivered by me tomorrow night at the TCP for us to open on Monday night. The reason behind my rational is to avoid repercussions in case strike or other problems with air travel occur. This will ensure that the tasting can go ahead without me in case my travel plans are affected.

Of course I would be unhappy and furious but at least the tasting can go ahead.

regards

WS1

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:19 Thu 17 Jun 2010

Updated draft of the placemats.

+CHR;
+Niepoort;
+Royal Oporto;
Because there are nine ports, paper size of glasses sheets changed to /USLegal (8½″×14″) please would one of the three UK-resident TPFers holding US Legal paper (being JGH AHB DRT) confirm that they are able to do the printing.

WS1 wrote:Will leave any ports not picked up from me or delivered by me tomorrow night at the TCP for us to open on Monday night. The reason behind my rational is to avoid repercussions in case strike or other problems with air travel occur. This will ensure that the tasting can go ahead without me in case my travel plans are affected.
Of course I would be unhappy and furious but at least the tasting can go ahead.

Decent of you to plan for that possibility.

JacobH · Post by **JacobH** » 10:32 Thu 17 Jun 2010

jdaw1 wrote:Updated draft of the placemats.
+CHR;
+Niepoort;
+Royal Oporto;
Because there are nine ports, paper size of glasses sheets changed to /USLegal (8½″×14″) please would one of the three UK-resident TPFers holding US Legal paper (being JGH AHB DRT) confirm that they are able to do the printing.

Can do printing. I think the placemats need to be -DRT -Royal Oporto, unless we can / should source one from Davy's as he suggested.

I now have the Noval and the Ferreira, thanks to Wolfgang.

Post by **jdaw1** » 12:29 Thu 17 Jun 2010

Updated draft of the placemats.

+Version without Royal Oporto, as well as version with, which means more pages not all of which will need to be printed.

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:00 Fri 18 Jun 2010

Updated draft of the placemats.

21st June, not 14th June; for same reason file renamed.

Note though:

jdaw1 wrote:
+Version without Royal Oporto, as well as version with, which means more pages not all of which will need to be printed.

JacobH · Post by **JacobH** » 08:22 Sat 19 Jun 2010

jdaw1 wrote:Updated draft of the placemats.
21st June, not 14th June; for same reason file renamed.

Many thanks. Should these placemats be titled ‟1982 horizontal” rather than ‟1982 vertical”?

Post by **jdaw1** » 10:13 Sat 19 Jun 2010

Updated draft of the placemats.

Fixed
JacobH wrote:Should these placemats be titled ‟1982 horizontal” rather than ‟1982 vertical”?
(Whoops thank you for checking carefully.)

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 14:01 Sun 20 Jun 2010

Hi Jacob,

can you please print and bring the placemats? Otherwise bad news Cristopher finaly cannot make it at all due to work comittments

but still donates the Niepoort 1982; thank you very much for this Cristopher!
After haveing picked up the bt from Christopher I deposited the Delaforce and the Niepoort at the Crusting Pipe in order to be opened by the first attendees to arrive. A table for 8 people is booked in the Crusting pipe (guess in one of the tunnels).

Looking fwd to the event!

regards

WS1

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:11 Sun 20 Jun 2010

Updated draft of the placemats.

”“CMAG.

If you give a final decision about the Royal Oporto (and likewise about DRT) it would simplify Jacob’s printing.

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 14:58 Sun 20 Jun 2010

uups, apologies, you are right. Please take the Royal Oporto and Derek out please.

Therefore I am afraid to say we will be only 6 people with 8 bts.

regards

WS1

Post by **jdaw1** » 16:05 Sun 20 Jun 2010

Updated draft of the placemats.

”“DRT;
”“Royal Oporto (would have been rubbish anyway);
One version: print all pages (some onto /USLegal (8½″×14″), some onto /A4).

Post by **jdaw1** » 16:15 Sun 20 Jun 2010

Links:

Review of the evening as a whole;
Placemats;
1982 Churchill;
1982 Croft;
1982 Delaforce;
1982 Eira Velha;
1982 Ferreira (thread deleted because of an accident with the bottle);
1982 Niepoort;
1982 Quinta do Noval;
1982 Sandeman;
1982 Royal Oporto (re-added to tasting too late for placemats);
Planning and arrangements.

Please, you six (WS CSD AHB JGH CHR THRA MKD, less one and I don’t know who), do take and post tasting notes.

angeleyes · Post by **angeleyes** » 08:20 Mon 21 Jun 2010

Hello, I'm not attending this one (see my earlier post!)

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:08 Mon 21 Jun 2010

Updated draft of the placemats.

”“MKD.

Please, you six (WS CSD AHB JGH CHR THRA), do take and post tasting notes.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 16:41 Mon 21 Jun 2010

Niepoort and Delaforce now decanted. There is also a stray bottle of Royal Oporto 1982 at TCP, but unless told otherwise I will assume that this is NOT to be decanted but is instead to be given to Derek when we next see him.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 16:43 Mon 21 Jun 2010

Should I be buying a bottle of Sandeman?

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 16:52 Mon 21 Jun 2010

AHB wrote:Niepoort and Delaforce now decanted. There is also a stray bottle of Royal Oporto 1982 at TCP, but unless told otherwise I will assume that this is NOT to be decanted but is instead to be given to Derek when we next see him.

Mystery solved. The box in which the RO was delivered was not given to me, but was addressed to Mr Head - decanting commencing.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 16:59 Mon 21 Jun 2010

As I sit here admiring this beautiful array of fine vintage ports in front of me (RO, Df, Ni) I do find myself wondering whether Cruz released a vintage in 1982.