Port for sale by retailer

[DRT]

Vintage Port
1935 1 bt Cockburn, v/h/s, facsimile label, vintage on branded lead capsule 285 -
1935 1 bt Delaforce, b/n, facsimile label, vintage on branded lead capsule 260 -

I guess the first of these ’35s is known to the Cockburn Committee.

Yes, we have already secured the 1935 from this source

The delivery charge I have paid will cover up to 4 additional bottles, at least one of which is likely to be another Cockburn, so if anyone wishes to take advantage of the other three spaces in the carrier please let me know by PM.

[benread]

For anyone after a cheaper option, Tesco have some of their port on sale until 15th June. This includes:

1994 Tesco VP (Symington) at GBP12.79 (down from GBP15.99)
Tesco Finest 10 year old Tawny (Symington) at GBP8.79 down from GBP10.99.

Both have served me well when in need of a cheap quaffing port!

[jdaw1]

We are closed until Monday. Orders must be placed by email to receive the discount. Sale ends on Tuesday night.

$200 bin
Broadbent Madeira 1964 - Qty: 2

$250 bin
Taylor Quinta de Vargellas Vinha Velha Port 1995 - Qty: 10 WE97, WS95

[RonnieRoots]

Vintage Port
1935 1 bt Cockburn, v/h/s, facsimile label, vintage on branded lead capsule 285 -
1935 1 bt Delaforce, b/n, facsimile label, vintage on branded lead capsule 260 -

I guess the first of these ’35s is known to the Cockburn Committee.

Yes, we have already secured the 1935 from this source

The delivery charge I have paid will cover up to 4 additional bottles, at least one of which is likely to be another Cockburn, so if anyone wishes to take advantage of the other three spaces in the carrier please let me know by PM.

That's a very interesting list! Can you keep one space open for me? I have to discuss with LadyR first, but am very tempted...

[RonnieRoots]

Derek, PM sent.

[Alex Bridgeman]

I've just had an excited phone call from my better half. She's in Makro at the moment and wants to know how many bottles of Graham's '83 I want her to buy at £35 per bottle.

They also have Fonseca Guimaraens 1988, Qd Cavadinha 1995 and Qd Bomfim 1996 @ £17 per bottle.

So the question is, would you prefer one bottle of Graham's 1983 or two bottles of Cavadinha 1995...

[jdaw1]

I've just had an excited phone call from my better half. She's in Makro at the moment

The website of which is useless: wines are under dry foods (and in two sense they ain’t), and there isn’t a list.

[SushiNorth]

I've just had an excited phone call from my better half. She's in Makro at the moment and wants to know how many bottles of Graham's '83 I want her to buy at £35 per bottle.

They also have Fonseca Guimaraens 1988, Qd Cavadinha 1995 and Qd Bomfim 1996 @ £17 per bottle.

So the question is, would you prefer one bottle of Graham's 1983 or two bottles of Cavadinha 1995...

$70/bottle of an 83 isn't a fabulous deal, but it's probably a better wine for short-term drinking. The 95 is likely a better bet if you're willing to put it away for a while (i'd buy 4 of 95 and 2 of the grahams, if it was me, and maybe 2 of that mediocre 88 as its cheap and ready)

[g-man]

I've just had an excited phone call from my better half. She's in Makro at the moment and wants to know how many bottles of Graham's '83 I want her to buy at £35 per bottle.

They also have Fonseca Guimaraens 1988, Qd Cavadinha 1995 and Qd Bomfim 1996 @ £17 per bottle.

So the question is, would you prefer one bottle of Graham's 1983 or two bottles of Cavadinha 1995...

$70/bottle of an 83 isn't a fabulous deal, but it's probably a better wine for short-term drinking. The 95 is likely a better bet if you're willing to put it away for a while (i'd buy 4 of 95 and 2 of the grahams, if it was me, and maybe 2 of that mediocre 88 as its cheap and ready)

If that's inclusive of vat, i'd say that's a good price, I'd doubt you could find it in the uk retail for less then that. Can't keep thinking about the piss poor dollar conversion Sushi when these guys all get paid in pounds =)

[Alex Bridgeman]

Wine Searcher has £35 (inclusive of VAT) as pretty much on par with the lowest price available in the UK. It should be less at auction, but auction prices have been a but unpredictable recently.

And the Graham '83 is a wine I particularly enjoy after a good, long decant - probably the best '83 I've drunk.

(And I agree that the Makro website is rubbish.)

[DRT]

1935 1 case Cockburn 3,500.00 DP
1967 1 bottle Cockburn 35.00 DP
1997 1 case Cockburn 240.00 UB
1963 1 case Croft 780.00 DP
1966 3 case Croft 650.00 DP
1994 1 case Croft 275.00 DP
1994 1 case Croft 275.00 UB
1997 1 case Delaforce 250.00 UB
2000 1 case Delaforce 195.00 UB
1985 3 case Dow 350.00 UB
1985 1 case Dow 350.00 DP
2000 4 bottle Dow 25.00 DP
1977 1 case Feuerheerd 275.00 DP
1963 1 case Fonseca 1,950.00 DP
1966 1 case Fonseca 1,190.00 DP
1977 7 bottle Fonseca 80.00 DP
2000 6 bottle Fonseca 34.00 UB
2000 1 bottle Fonseca, Magnums 66.00 UB
1991 1 case Gould Campbell 285.00 DP
1966 3 case Graham 990.00 DP
1970 9 bottle Graham 65.00 DP
1977 9 case Graham 625.00 DP
1983 1 bottle Graham 29.00 DP
1991 6 bottle Graham 28.00 DP
1994 1 case Graham 375.00 UB
2000 2 case Graham 400.00 UB
1994 1 case Graham, Halves 395.00 UB
1967 3 case Martinez 295.00 DP
1992 2 bottle Niepoort 30.00 DP
1997 2 case Niepoort 395.00 DP
1992 1 case Niepoort, Halves 260.00 DP
1992 2 bottle Niepoort, Magnums 75.00 DP
1955 1 bottle Offley Boa Vista 70.00 DP
1977 1 case Offley Boa Vista 350.00 DP
1977 11 bottle Offley Boa Vista 350.00 30.00 DP
2000 1 case Quinta da Eira Velha 120.00 DP
1990 1 case Quinta de La Rosa 150.00 DP
1963 5 bottle Quinta do Noval Nacional 1,450.00 DP
1970 3 bottle Quinta do Noval Nacional 350.00 DP
2003 6 bottle Quinta do Vallado 15.00 DP
2004 6 bottle Quinta do Vallado 15.00 DP
1997 6 bottle Quinta do Vesuvio 20.00 UB
1983 4 case Royal Oporto 195.00 DP
1945 2 bottle Taylor 750.00 DP
1955 2 case Taylor 2,600.00 DP
1963 7 bottle Taylor 125.00 DP
1966 1 case Taylor 950.00 DP
1970 1 case Taylor 895.00 DP
1975 2 case Taylor 450.00 DP
1977 3 case Taylor 775.00 DP
1992 1 case Taylor 950.00 UB
1994 1 case Taylor 795.00 UB
2000 6 bottle Taylor 50.00 UB
1934 11 bottle Unknown Port 195.00 DP
1947 3 bottle Unknown Port 195.00 DP
1963 3 case Warre 950.00 DP
1966 2 case Warre 795.00 DP
1966 11 bottle Warre 66.00 DP
1970 1 bottle Warre 50.00 DP
1983 6 bottle Warre 29.00 DP
1997 1 case Warre 275.00 UB
2000 1 case Warre 300.00 UB
1977 1 case Warre, Magnums 510.00 DP
1977 1 bottle Warre, Magnums 85.00 DP

They no longer have the 6 bottles of Quinta do Vesuvio 1997

Derek

[jdaw1]

If anybody is arranging a delivery from Seckford and is willing to add the Offley Boa Vista 1955 on my behalf, please do so. Thank you.

[jdaw1]

Fonseca
1948 Fonseca Vintage Port - 2 Available at $2,111.89 each
1970 Fonseca Vintage Port - $280.89 each
1970 Fonseca Vintage Port - Magnum - 7 Available at $659.89 each
1977 Fonseca Vintage Port - 1 Available at $251.89 each
1983 Fonseca Vintage Port - 9 Available at $135.00 each
1985 Fonseca Vintage Port - $151.89 each
1997 Fonseca Vintage Port - 21 Available at $108.89 each

Croft
1963 Croft Vintage Port - 1 Available at $214.89 each
2000 Croft Vintage Port - 25 Available at $57.89 each
2003 Croft Vintage Port - 58 Available at $72.89 each

Graham
1955 Graham Vintage Port - 1 Available at $450.00 each
1963 Graham Vintage Port - 16 Available at $431.89 each
1970 Graham Vintage Port - $233.89 each
1983 Graham Vintage Port - 3 Available at $115.89 each

Martinez
1958 Martinez Vintage Port - 1 Available at $675.00 each

Niepoort
1952 Niepoort Port Colheita - 1 Available at $850.00
1957 Niepoort Port Colheita - 1 Available at $695.00
1962 Niepoort Port Colheita - 1 Available at $295.00
1979 Niepoort Port Colheita - 1 Available at $125.00
1982 Niepoort Port Colheita - 4 Available at $129.00

Quinta do Noval
1938 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port - 1 Available at $910.00
1958 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port - 1 Available at $723.00
1960 Quinta do Noval Port - 1 Available at $167.00
1963 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port - 7 Available at $194.89
1970 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port - 1 Available at $159.00
1985 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port - 1 Available at $69.00
2003 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port - 21 Available at $88.89
1964 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port Nacional - 1 Available at $595.00
1966 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port Nacional - 2 Available at $995.00
1975 Quinta do Noval Vintage Port Nacional - 1 Available at $1,055.89

Taylor Fladgate
1945 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port - 2 Available at $1,979.89
1955 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port - 5 Available at $725.89
1963 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port - 44 Available at $398.89
1970 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port - $266.89 each
1992 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port - 1 Available at $275.00
2000 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port - Magnum - 1 Available at $217.89
2003 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port - 1 Available at $95.89
2003 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port - Magnum - $190.89 each
1991 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port - Quinta de Vargellas - 1 Available at $129.00

Warre
1945 Warre Vintage Port - 4 Available at $1,121.89
1963 Warre Vintage Port - $332.89 each
1970 Warre Vintage Port - 60 Available at $200.89
1974 Warre Vintage Port - 1 Available at $51.00
1977 Warre Vintage Port - 26 Available at $151.89
1983 Warre Vintage Port - 20 Available at $103.89
1985 Warre Vintage Port - $108.89 each
1994 Warre Vintage Port - 1 Available at $81.00

Their usual eye-watering prices.

[Alex Bridgeman]

I've just had an excited phone call from my better half. She's in Makro at the moment and wants to know how many bottles of Graham's '83 I want her to buy at £35 per bottle.

Interestingly, these appear to be an ex-cellars release, presumably to coincide with their 25th anniversary.

How do I know that they are ex-cellars? Because their very clean, new looking labels have printed in tiny letters at the bottom "Bottled by Symington Family Estates, Vinhos Lda". If I recall correctly, this company only came into existence around 3-5 years ago.

Alex

[RonnieRoots]

I've just had an excited phone call from my better half. She's in Makro at the moment and wants to know how many bottles of Graham's '83 I want her to buy at £35 per bottle.

Interestingly, these appear to be an ex-cellars release, presumably to coincide with their 25th anniversary.

How do I know that they are ex-cellars? Because their very clean, new looking labels have printed in tiny letters at the bottom "Bottled by Symington Family Estates, Vinhos Lda". If I recall correctly, this company only came into existence around 3-5 years ago.

Alex

That's a good price on the Graham's. I just bought 3 or 4 from Seckford for £29, but including shipping to the Netherlands they were about the same. (Sorry jdaw, shipment is already made).

The Cavadinha is also well worth buying. I've enjoyed it a couple of times, since it is widely available at ┚¬25 here (Albert Heijn XL), and if you are willing to throw some airmiles in, it will only cost you ┚¬10.

[uncle tom]

Going rate at auction for a case of G83 is about £300 + BP, so a retail price of £35/bottle is quite keen.

I'm not greatly wowed by the idea that a bottle of port is 'ex cellars'.

The average temperature in Oporto is just over 14C, whereas deep cellars in England range from 9 - 12C. Temperature controlled cellars are usually maintained at 11 - 12C.

Some of the bottle stores in VNG are barely underground, leaving them vulnerable to seasonal variations, and I have never seen any evidence of temperature control.

While an ex cellars bottle has better provenance, it is not necessarily a better bottle than one bought at auction.

Tom

[g-man]

New Hart Davis Auction coming up on June 28th,

bit weak on ports tho

Grahams 94 lot 955
9 bottles in the lot estimate 450-650

Grahams 66 lot 539
12 bottles in the lot est 1200-1800

Fonseca 1980 lot 540
12 bottles est 450-650

The Fonseca is the only one I'm going to try and take down.

[jdaw1]

Read the TNs on F80 before purchasing.

[g-man]

Read the TNs on F80 before purchasing.

Yea I saw, major hit or miss =( ...
But it was indeed the port that got me into drinking ports =). ..

and I need these bottles to complete a vertical in the 80s.

[jdaw1]

£400.00 DP 1927 Cockburn

£1500.00 DP 1931 Quinta Do Noval

£600.00 DP 1935 Taylor

£500.00 DP 1945 Dow

£500.00 DP 1955 Graham (magnum) [correction: my spreadsheet divided by 12 rather than 6]
£125.00 DP 1955 Quinta Do Noval
£225.00 DP 1955 Taylor
£150.00 DP 1955 Warre

£300.00 DP 1958 Nacional

£60.00 DP 1963 Cockburn
£60.00 DP 1963 Croft
£140.00 DP 1963 Fonseca
£123.33 DP 1963 Graham
£81.67 DP 1963 Warre

£91.67 DP 1966 Dow
£91.67 DP 1966 Graham
£62.50 DP 1966 Quinta Do Noval
£87.50 UB 1966 Taylor
£60.00 DP 1966 Warre

£46.67 UB 1967 Cockburn

£61.67 DP 1970 Dow
£90.00 UB 1970 Fonseca
£75.00 DP 1970 Graham
£32.92 DP 1970 Ofley-Boa-Vista
£360.00 DP 1970 Quinta Do Noval Nacional
£32.08 DP 1970 Smith Woodhouse
£87.50 DP 1970 Taylor
£50.00 DP 1970 Warre

£20.83 DP 1975 Cockburn
£20.83 DP 1975 Sandeman
£21.67 DP 1975 Warre

£36.67 DP 1977 Croft
£47.92 UB 1977 Dow
£54.17 DP 1977 Graham
£24.58 DP 1977 Quarles-Harris
£28.75 DP 1977 Smith Woodhouse
£45.83 DP 1977 Warre

£36.67 DP 1980 Taylor

£15.00 UB 1982 Croft

£37.50 DP 1983 Cockburn
£31.67 DP 1983 Dow
£19.17 UB 1983 Quarles Harris
£27.50 DP 1983 Smith Woodhouse
£36.67 DP 1983 Taylor
£32.50 DP 1983 Warre

£23.33 UB 1985 Cockburn
£33.33 UB 1985 Dow
£45.83 UB 1985 Fonseca
£41.67 DP 1985 Graham
£17.50 DP 1985 Martinez
£20.42 UB 1985 Offley Boa Vista
£23.33 UB 1985 Quinta Do Noval
£23.75 UB 1985 Sandeman
£41.67 UB 1985 Taylor
£43.33 DP 1985 Taylor
£33.33 DP 1985 Warre

£23.50 DP 1991 Dow
£20.83 UB 1991 Warre

£17.50 DP 1994 Smith Woodhouse
£70.00 UB 1994 Taylor

£31.67 UB 1997 Fonseca
£16.67 DP 1997 Smith Woodhouse

£36.67 DP 2000 Quinta Do Noval

[g-man]

Wine warehouse on broadway between 4th and st marks place.

Spotted
Martinez 97 for 15.99$/bottle
Calem 94 for 29.99$
Dow 03 for 59.99$

[jdaw1]

Broadbent Madeira Terrantez Old Reserve NV ~ 8 @ $59 WS90
Cockburn Port 1908 ~ 1 @ $1100 capsule corrosion
Sandeman Port 1963 ~ 1 @ $172 WS96 cracked wax, exposed cork, sos, wine stained label

[mosesbotbol]

Compared to the 85 Graham, the 83 is a little lackluster. I wouldn't pay over $70 for the '83, but would pay $150 for a magnum.

Fonseca 83 is probably the best 83 I can think of off hand...

[jdaw1]

Quinta do Crasto Late Bottled Vintage Port 1994 ~ 12 @ $49 WS93

Not obviously cheap.

[DRT]

£400.00 DP 1927 Cockburn

£1500.00 DP 1931 Quinta Do Noval

£600.00 DP 1935 Taylor

£500.00 DP 1945 Dow

£500.00 DP 1955 Graham (magnum) [correction: my spreadsheet divided by 12 rather than 6]
£125.00 DP 1955 Quinta Do Noval
£225.00 DP 1955 Taylor
£150.00 DP 1955 Warre

£300.00 DP 1958 Nacional

£60.00 DP 1963 Cockburn
£60.00 DP 1963 Croft
£140.00 DP 1963 Fonseca
£123.33 DP 1963 Graham
£81.67 DP 1963 Warre

£91.67 DP 1966 Dow
£91.67 DP 1966 Graham
£62.50 DP 1966 Quinta Do Noval
£87.50 UB 1966 Taylor
£60.00 DP 1966 Warre

£46.67 UB 1967 Cockburn

£61.67 DP 1970 Dow
£90.00 UB 1970 Fonseca
£75.00 DP 1970 Graham
£32.92 DP 1970 Ofley-Boa-Vista
£360.00 DP 1970 Quinta Do Noval Nacional
£32.08 DP 1970 Smith Woodhouse
£87.50 DP 1970 Taylor
£50.00 DP 1970 Warre

£20.83 DP 1975 Cockburn
£20.83 DP 1975 Sandeman
£21.67 DP 1975 Warre

£36.67 DP 1977 Croft
£47.92 UB 1977 Dow
£54.17 DP 1977 Graham
£24.58 DP 1977 Quarles-Harris
£28.75 DP 1977 Smith Woodhouse
£45.83 DP 1977 Warre

£36.67 DP 1980 Taylor

£15.00 UB 1982 Croft

£37.50 DP 1983 Cockburn
£31.67 DP 1983 Dow
£19.17 UB 1983 Quarles Harris
£27.50 DP 1983 Smith Woodhouse
£36.67 DP 1983 Taylor
£32.50 DP 1983 Warre

£23.33 UB 1985 Cockburn
£33.33 UB 1985 Dow
£45.83 UB 1985 Fonseca
£41.67 DP 1985 Graham
£17.50 DP 1985 Martinez
£20.42 UB 1985 Offley Boa Vista
£23.33 UB 1985 Quinta Do Noval
£23.75 UB 1985 Sandeman
£41.67 UB 1985 Taylor
£43.33 DP 1985 Taylor
£33.33 DP 1985 Warre

£23.50 DP 1991 Dow
£20.83 UB 1991 Warre

£17.50 DP 1994 Smith Woodhouse
£70.00 UB 1994 Taylor

£31.67 UB 1997 Fonseca
£16.67 DP 1997 Smith Woodhouse

£36.67 DP 2000 Quinta Do Noval

I contacted Patrick Wilkinson earlier this week and secured 2 cases of Martinez 85 that are now winging their way to my off-site storage.

There are 2 cases left if anyone else is interested. Patrick has agreed to waive his £500 minimum order limit for members but has said that he cannot split cases.

Derek