Intensive Training - 2nd April 2011
Intensive Training - 2nd April 2011
With only two days to go before the big event, a few brave soldiers are conducting an intensive training exercise:
Smith Woodhouse Madalena 1988
Smith Woodhouse 1977
Gould Campbell 1970
Graham's Malvedos 1965
Dow 1963
Croft 1945
This is hard work, but will be worth it in the end.
Smith Woodhouse Madalena 1988
Smith Woodhouse 1977
Gould Campbell 1970
Graham's Malvedos 1965
Dow 1963
Croft 1945
This is hard work, but will be worth it in the end.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: Intensive Training - 2nd March 2011
Looking at the date, I think you may be stuck in last night's time warp!
Ben
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Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
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Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
Re: Intensive Training - 2nd March 2011
Move along, move along. Nothing to see here.benread wrote:Looking at the date, I think you may be stuck in last night's time warp!
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: Intensive Training - 2nd April 2011
Top three wines of the night were voted as:
Croft 1945 - 1, 1, 1
Dow 1963 - 2, 2 ,3
Malvedos 1965 - 3, 3, 2
Smith Woodhouse Madalena 1988 was lovely, but not up to the competition. Smith Woodhouse 1977 was great, but was behind in maturity and not able to compete. Gould Campbell 1970 fell apart a little overnight but was still very drinkable if it hadn't been up against such competition.
Croft 1945 - 1, 1, 1
Dow 1963 - 2, 2 ,3
Malvedos 1965 - 3, 3, 2
Smith Woodhouse Madalena 1988 was lovely, but not up to the competition. Smith Woodhouse 1977 was great, but was behind in maturity and not able to compete. Gould Campbell 1970 fell apart a little overnight but was still very drinkable if it hadn't been up against such competition.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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Intensive Training - 2nd April 2011
And the 1945 Croft and Dow's were amazing. Followed closely by the 1965 Malvedos.AHB wrote:Top three wines of the night were voted as:
Croft 1945 - 1, 1, 1
Dow 1963 - 2, 2 ,3
Malvedos 1965 - 3, 3, 2
Smith Woodhouse Madalena 1988 was lovely, but not up to the competition. Smith Woodhouse 1977 was great, but was behind in maturity and not able to compete. Gould Campbell 1970 fell apart a little overnight but was still very drinkable if it hadn't been up against such competition.
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Re: Intensive Training - 2nd April 2011
There were also three cheeses on the night. These were Spenwood, Wigmore and Oxford Blue.
Cheese of the night:
Spenwood 1, 1, 2
Wigmore 2, 2, 1
Oxford Blue 3, 3, 3
Cheese of the night:
Spenwood 1, 1, 2
Wigmore 2, 2, 1
Oxford Blue 3, 3, 3
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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Re: Intensive Training - 2nd April 2011
A question was asked of the attendees: If you were to be taken to a remote island for three years and provided with a Eurocave that could accomodate 10 cases, what proportion of these three WOTN candidates would you take to store in the Eurocave. You cannot obtain any new supplies of port in the three years and cannot take any remaining bottles with you at the end of the three years.
Answer 1 - 60% Malvedos 1965, 30% Dow 1963, 10% Croft 1945
Answer 2 - 60% Croft 1945, 20% Dow 1963, 20% Malvedos 1965
Answer 3 - 60% Malvedos 1965, 10% Dow 1963, 30% Croft 1945
And the discussion is lively!
Answer 1 - 60% Malvedos 1965, 30% Dow 1963, 10% Croft 1945
Answer 2 - 60% Croft 1945, 20% Dow 1963, 20% Malvedos 1965
Answer 3 - 60% Malvedos 1965, 10% Dow 1963, 30% Croft 1945
And the discussion is lively!
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
Re: Intensive Training - 2nd April 2011
OBJECTION!!!
I voted 150% Croft 1945, 200% Dow 1963 and 500% Malvedos 1965.
I want a re-count!
I voted 150% Croft 1945, 200% Dow 1963 and 500% Malvedos 1965.
I want a re-count!
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Intensive Training - 2nd April 2011
I second the motion.DRT wrote:OBJECTION!!!
I voted 150% Croft 1945, 200% Dow 1963 and 500% Malvedos 1965.
I want a re-count!
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Re: Intensive Training - 2nd April 2011
In the absence of a UN Security Council motion to the contrary, executive power lies with the self-appointed leader of the tasting and all objections are deemed irrelevant and frivolous and are hereby dismissed with no further consideration and no right of appeal.Andy Velebil wrote:I second the motion.DRT wrote:OBJECTION!!!
I voted 150% Croft 1945, 200% Dow 1963 and 500% Malvedos 1965.
I want a re-count!
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
Re: Intensive Training - 2nd April 2011
Any reason why? After last years Graham vs Malvedos tasting, I resolved to buy more Malvedos and am interested to know why 2 from 3 of you would take more Malvedos but did not vote it WOTN?AHB wrote:A question was asked of the attendees: If you were to be taken to a remote island for three years and provided with a Eurocave that could accomodate 10 cases, what proportion of these three WOTN candidates would you take to store in the Eurocave. You cannot obtain any new supplies of port in the three years and cannot take any remaining bottles with you at the end of the three years.
Answer 1 - 60% Malvedos 1965, 30% Dow 1963, 10% Croft 1945
Answer 2 - 60% Croft 1945, 20% Dow 1963, 20% Malvedos 1965
Answer 3 - 60% Malvedos 1965, 10% Dow 1963, 30% Croft 1945
And the discussion is lively!
Ben
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Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
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Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
Re: Intensive Training - 2nd April 2011
I was "Answer 1". My rationale was (and, remarkably, still is) is that:
- All three Ports were fantastic so I would be happy to drink all of them on any day;
- I wouldn't want to have to drink the same Port every day for three years;
- Being stuck on an island would perhaps be difficult to cope with, so incentives might help;
- With GM65 as the "daily drinker", it would be good to have something even better to look forward to occasionally, so a Dow 63 every few weeks would be good;
- Spectacular Ports deserve respect, anticipation and a sense of rarity. Too much Croft 45 might take the edge off the experience after a while.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: Intensive Training - 2nd April 2011
My logic was similar, except that I don't find the Dow as ready to drink as either of the other two. Hence I would have the Malvedos as my daily drinker, Croft for special occasions and the Dow for curiosity and variety from time to time.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.