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The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 20:22 Sun 14 Aug 2011
by DRT
New first post!
Date: Thursday 29th March 2012
Venue: The Bung Hole, London
Theme!
- Amuse-bouche: The Great International Ruby Reserve Taste-off, comprising!
- Cockburn Special Reserve (RLC)
- Fonseca Terra Prima (RAYC)
- Graham's Six Grapes (DRT)
- Noval Black (RAYC)
- Ramos-Pinto Collector (RLC)
- Quinta de la Rosa Reserve (RAYC)
- The Port Society Ruby Reserve (RLC)
- Entrée: Beer break.
- Plat principal: Bring a Port to Drink on Your Birthday.
Attendees:
- AHB;
- BMHR;
- CMAG;
- DRT;
- RAYC;
- RLC;
- THRA.
Original first post!
Ben reminded me last week that we have an established tradition of having a tasting around the end of March / beginning of April to hold a joint celebration of the birthdays of Ben, Ray, Axel and me. (I think that is the correct list but please correct me if not)
Once again I will issue a plea that this event be held +/- 7 days from 28 March so that, if the theme allows, I can pop a 1965 VP to ensure my continued survival.
So, the proposed time window is Wed 21 March to Wed 4 April.
Theme: suggestions please.
Venue: suggestions please.
In/out? Executive decision: the birthday boys are in unless they say they are out.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 20:26 Sun 14 Aug 2011
by jdaw1
Count me in as well.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 20:31 Sun 14 Aug 2011
by DRT
Date: Thursday, 29th March 2012
Venue: Somewhere in London
Suggested Theme
- Bring a vintage port from your birth year;
- Delaforce Vertical;
- Port to drink on your birthday;
- Desert Island Ports? (5 from 90s, 5 from 80s, 5 from 70s, 5 from 60s, 5 pre-60s);
- 66 horizontal (with a 65 comparison).
Attendees
- Industry Guest;
- ADV (t.b.c);
- AHB;
- AP (t.b.c);
- BMHR;
- CMAG;
- CSD (t.b.c.);
- CSD's +1 (t.b.c.);
- DRT;
- JDAW;
- JGH (t.b.c);
- RAYC;
- RLC.
Note: Those marked "(t.b.c.)" must confirm attendance no later than 31 January 2012 otherwise they might have to forfeit their place for someone on a reserve list, should such a list form between now and then.
Edits to this post:
1. CMAG added by DRT following confirmation by SMS.
2. AHB and his suggestions added by DRT.
3. RAYC and his suggestions added by DRT.
4. RLC removed at his request by DRT.
5. ADV added by DRT.
6. Space for industry guest reserved by DRT.
7. Date confirmed by DRT following suggestions from those willing to provide suggestions.
8. CSD & CSD's +1 added by DRT.
9. JGH added by DRT.
10 RLC re-added at his request by DRT.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 21:15 Sun 14 Aug 2011
by Alex Bridgeman
Oh, all right then. Force me to drink port if you must. I'm in.
Suggested theme - birthday year vintage port (everyone attending has to bring a vintage port from their birth year - or at least connected with their birth year in some way that can be explained on the night); or a Delaforce vertical.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 21:24 Sun 14 Aug 2011
by DRT
I like your first suggestion more than your second, for obvious reasons.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 21:32 Sun 14 Aug 2011
by jdaw1
My birth year is of little interest to port, and of no more interest to me.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 22:02 Sun 14 Aug 2011
by RAYC
I would love to come.
Desert Island Ports? (5 from 90s, 5 from 80s, 5 from 70s, 5 from 60s, 5 pre-60s)?
66 horizontal (with a 65 comparison)?!
AHB wrote:
Suggested theme - birthday year vintage port (everyone attending has to bring a vintage port from their birth year - or at least connected with their birth year in some way that can be explained on the night)
My birth year is also tricky and of little interest to anybody. I did get a rather nice 80 for my christening though...good enough connection?
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 22:20 Sun 14 Aug 2011
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:My birth year is of little interest to port, and of no more interest to me.
Noted. Also noted is the fact that I have been lucky to have three previous years in succession where I was able to incorporate a 1965 into the lineup. I am therefore more than happy to go for a theme that excludes 1965 as I can easily drink one on another evening around that time.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 22:20 Sun 14 Aug 2011
by RAYC
I now realise the '66 has been done already, 3 years ago (before my time), so feel free to withdraw.
Though might be interesting to see whether DRT's impressions of that
tasting still hold true today...
DRT wrote:Quite simply the best offline of my career.
Oh my God.

Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 22:28 Sun 14 Aug 2011
by DRT
This was early in my career but still stands out as the best horizontal I have tasted from a consistency of quality point of view. I am struggling to think of anything I have been involved in that would trump that line-up. Worth doing again.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 05:26 Mon 15 Aug 2011
by benread
I am, of course, very keen on this! I have no preference on theme, although if it is loose (bring a bottle connected to your birth) we may need a 'director' to officiate, whether the tasting is blind or not. It would also probably dictate the tasting being less formal than last year - difficult to find a guest with such a loose theme! (I am quite happy with that approach as well.)
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 12:17 Mon 15 Aug 2011
by Alex Bridgeman
jdaw1 wrote:My birth year is of little interest to port, and of no more interest to me.
Your birth year is of great importance to port, for the following reasons:
(i) port consumption is higher in the years after your birth than before your birth
(ii) port was not available commercially in large format before the year of your birth
(iii) your birth year was the year in which the 1966 vintage was bottled - an event which we should all celebrate at least once per year
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 12:27 Mon 15 Aug 2011
by jdaw1
Perhaps the theme could be ‟Port to drink on your birthday”?
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 12:29 Mon 15 Aug 2011
by jdaw1
AHB wrote:(ii) port was not available commercially in large format before the year of your birth
Perhaps I have a failure of scale, but methinks 112 gallons is ‘large format’ enough for a host and several chums.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 12:33 Mon 15 Aug 2011
by Alex Bridgeman
jdaw1 wrote:Perhaps the theme could be ‟Port to drink on your birthday”?
That's a theme I like!
jdaw1 wrote:Perhaps I have a failure of scale, but methinks 112 gallons is ‘large format’ enough for a host and several chums.
I have to concede on that point. A 112 gallon container of vintage port would likely outlast even a weekend visit to Paris by Derek. Perhaps I should have been more accurate and said, "(ii) port was not available commercially in large format glass containers before the year of your birth".
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 12:35 Mon 15 Aug 2011
by DRT
AHB wrote:jdaw1 wrote:Perhaps I have a failure of scale, but methinks 112 gallons is ‘large format’ enough for a host and several chums.
I have to concede on that point. A 112 gallon container of vintage port would likely outlast even a weekend visit to Paris by Derek. Perhaps I should have been more accurate and said, "(ii) port was not available commercially in large format glass containers before the year of your birth".
That's incorrect, too. How else do we explain the well-known mags of Sandeman 1935?
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 12:40 Mon 15 Aug 2011
by Alex Bridgeman
DRT wrote:That's incorrect, too. How else do we explain the well-known mags of Sandeman 1935?
Are you describing a magnum as large format?!

That's barely a night's drinking when filled with Martinez 1985, for example.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 15:08 Sat 20 Aug 2011
by Andy Velebil
Since I seem to have a pattern of flying over there around this time for said Port drinking and as my Bday is the middle of April as well, can you add me to the tentative list.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 22:02 Sat 20 Aug 2011
by DRT
Andy Velebil wrote:Since I seem to have a pattern of flying over there around this time for said Port drinking and as my Bday is the middle of April as well, can you add me to the tentative list.
Done. As a birthday boy and serial attendee you are on the list until you say you can't make it.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 22:06 Sat 20 Aug 2011
by jdaw1
A birthday boy should suggest a list possible dates, possibly a long list. Other BBs should eliminate those known not to work. That would advance the ‘when?’ question. Separately, the ‘what?’ problem needs work.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 22:07 Sat 20 Aug 2011
by DRT
The following note has been added to the main organisation post above in the interest of fairness:
Note: "Birthday Boys" have been added to the confirmed list of attendees by default but must confirm attendance no later than 31 January 2012 otherwise they might have to forfeit their place for someone on a reserve list, should such a list form between now and then.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 22:33 Sat 20 Aug 2011
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:A birthday boy should suggest a list possible dates, possibly a long list. Other BBs should eliminate those known not to work. That would advance the ‘when?’ question.
In hand via email.
jdaw1 wrote:Separately, the ‘what?’ problem needs work.
Agreed. Do you have a suggestion?
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 08:10 Sun 21 Aug 2011
by jdaw1
DRT wrote:jdaw1 wrote:Separately, the ‘what?’ problem needs work.
Agreed. Do you have a suggestion?
jdaw1 wrote:Perhaps the theme could be ‟Port to drink on your birthday”?
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 17:52 Sun 21 Aug 2011
by DRT
Following consultation with others by email I would propose that this tasting takes place on one of Thursday 22nd, Tuesday 27th or Thursday 29th March.
The UK School Easter Holidays begin on 30th March so it is probably best to avoid the following week.
Does anyone who is already "in" have a definite preference for any one of those dates or, more importantly, is there any of them that you cannot do?
Derek
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 18:30 Sun 21 Aug 2011
by jdaw1
I couldn’t attend the
Malvedos vertical, which was on 22 March 2010. Similar reasoning might prevent my attending a tasting on 22 March 2012.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 18:49 Sun 21 Aug 2011
by benread
Derek,
At this level of notice any are fine with me! (I am sure that does not surprise you!)
Ben
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 19:02 Sun 21 Aug 2011
by DRT
benread wrote:At this level of notice any are fine with me! (I am sure that does not surprise you!)
Quite unsurprisingly, no, it doesn't

Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 20:44 Sun 21 Aug 2011
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:I couldn’t attend the
Malvedos vertical, which was on 22 March 2010. Similar reasoning might prevent my attending a tasting on 22 March 2012.
22nd March now ruled out.
Proposed options are 27th and 29th March 2012.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 03:14 Tue 23 Aug 2011
by Andy Velebil
Given I'm flying 10+ hours each way, Thursday is probably best as then I could make it long weekend.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 18:15 Tue 23 Aug 2011
by DRT
Executive decision: The tasting will be held on Thursday 29th March 2012.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 18:47 Tue 23 Aug 2011
by jdaw1
Theme?
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 18:58 Tue 23 Aug 2011
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:Theme?
I have made two Exec Decisions already. Are you asking me to make another one?
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 19:01 Tue 23 Aug 2011
by Alex Bridgeman
DRT wrote:The following note has been added to the main organisation post above in the interest of fairness:
Note: "Birthday Boys" have been added to the confirmed list of attendees by default but must confirm attendance no later than 31 January 2012 otherwise they might have to forfeit their place for someone on a reserve list, should such a list form between now and then.
I have a birthday in 2012. Does that qualify me to attend this tasting? If so, I am definitely in for 29 March.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 19:18 Tue 23 Aug 2011
by DRT
AHB wrote:DRT wrote:The following note has been added to the main organisation post above in the interest of fairness:
Note: "Birthday Boys" have been added to the confirmed list of attendees by default but must confirm attendance no later than 31 January 2012 otherwise they might have to forfeit their place for someone on a reserve list, should such a list form between now and then.
I have a birthday in 2012. Does that qualify me to attend this tasting? If so, I am definitely in for 29 March.
Yes, that qualifies. You're in!!

Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 13:56 Fri 02 Sep 2011
by JacobH
I would always be interested in this tasting but I’m afraid I’m not going to be able to confirm either way for a couple of months. If it not an abuse of the reserve list, could I go on that, willing to accept that it might become fully booked.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 17:47 Fri 02 Sep 2011
by DRT
JacobH wrote:I would always be interested in this tasting but I’m afraid I’m not going to be able to confirm either way for a couple of months. If it not an abuse of the reserve list, could I go on that, willing to accept that it might become fully booked.
As take-up has been less than vigorous I am happy to put you on the confirmed list and ask you to abide by the same rule as the defaulted-in birthday boys. Is that OK with you?
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 13:24 Sat 03 Sep 2011
by JacobH
DRT wrote:JacobH wrote:I would always be interested in this tasting but I’m afraid I’m not going to be able to confirm either way for a couple of months. If it not an abuse of the reserve list, could I go on that, willing to accept that it might become fully booked.
As take-up has been less than vigorous I am happy to put you on the confirmed list and ask you to abide by the same rule as the defaulted-in birthday boys. Is that OK with you?
Certainly

Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 13:40 Sat 17 Dec 2011
by DRT
It has been suggested that this tasting be held at The Bell on Sunday 11th March 2012, which is the 50th Birthday of
attendee number 1.
Could all who expressed an interest please confirm whether or not they agree to this change?
DRT agrees.
Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Posted: 13:57 Sat 17 Dec 2011
by DRT
AHB wrote:jdaw1 wrote:Perhaps the theme could be ‟Port to drink on your birthday”?
That's a theme I like!
I like this too.
Unless someone comes up with a better theme within the next 7 days that will be the theme for this tasting.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 16:16 Sat 17 Dec 2011
by jdaw1
DRT wrote:It has been suggested that this tasting be held at The Bell on Sunday 11th March 2012, which is the 50th Birthday of
attendee number 1.
Could all who expressed an interest please confirm whether or not they agree to this change?
Subject to being able to adopt, this is probably OK with me.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 16:31 Sat 17 Dec 2011
by Alex Bridgeman
That makes it less easy for me to attend - and when is Tom back?
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 17:23 Sat 17 Dec 2011
by DRT
AHB wrote:That makes it less easy for me to attend - and when is Tom back?
These questions didn't seem to come up when the event was enthusiastically discussed on Thursday
If this is going to be difficult to arrange we need to let BB1 know very quickly.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 00:06 Sun 18 Dec 2011
by Alex Bridgeman
DRT wrote:AHB wrote:That makes it less easy for me to attend - and when is Tom back?
These questions didn't seem to come up when the event was enthusiastically discussed on Thursday
If this is going to be difficult to arrange we need to let BB1 know very quickly.
I don't recall any discussion of dates!
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 07:54 Sun 18 Dec 2011
by DRT
Our recollections differ. I recall someone saying something similar to "My birthday is on 11th March, will we all meet here to celebrate". Following a brief period of group enthusiasm, that person pulled a diary from his pocket and wrote something in it, which I figured was more than likely an entry against 11th March.
I accept that by the time all of this happened we we possibly not at our sharpest so hopefully others will help piece together what actually occurred.
The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 16:04 Sun 18 Dec 2011
by Andy Velebil
I Should add my bday is in mid April and the past couple years I've tripped across the pond to celebrate with some very amusing and like minded port lovers. This coming year hopefully is no different.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 14:58 Mon 19 Dec 2011
by Axel P
Unfortunately I am out, since on this date is my daughters birthday.
Axel
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 15:02 Mon 19 Dec 2011
by RAYC
Axel P wrote:would you want me to ask a special guest? Shall we hold this in the RAF-Club?
Well, maybe more exec decisions to come...
Axel
It seems that AHB is not the only one suffering memory loss from the conversation on Thursday night at the Bell!

Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 15:03 Mon 19 Dec 2011
by RAYC
DRT wrote:Our recollections differ. I recall someone saying something similar to "My birthday is on 11th March, will we all meet here to celebrate". Following a brief period of group enthusiasm, that person pulled a diary from his pocket and wrote something in it, which I figured was more than likely an entry against 11th March.
I accept that by the time all of this happened we we possibly not at our sharpest so hopefully others will help piece together what actually occurred.
This is an accurate summary of what i remember being discussed. I am happy if it goes ahead as discussed, but equally if it is now amended because everyone agreed to it when they were too far gone to remember!
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 15:38 Mon 19 Dec 2011
by RAYC
Axel P wrote:Unfortunately I am out, since on this date is my daughters birthday.
Axel
AHB wrote:That makes it less easy for me to attend - and when is Tom back?
Suggests a re-think of whether March 11 is a go-er?
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Posted: 17:13 Mon 19 Dec 2011
by DRT
Perhaps we should keep the date for this tasting as 29th March and I will email the man whose birthday is on 11th March and ask him to join us.
Would anyone who agreed to the 29th March tasting object if the venue was The Bell instead of the RAFC? I think this would be a good compromise and The Bell is probably a better venue for the currently preferred theme.