1980 Borges

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Alex Bridgeman
Fonseca 1963
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Re: 1980 Borges & Irmão

Post by Alex Bridgeman » 12:05 Tue 23 Aug 2011

Very pale, 10% opaque, slightly cloudy. VA on the nose - very tawny / colheita with marzipan dominating a rather unpleasant combination. Sweet entry, little flavour other than some brown sugar. Hollow, and with little fruit, mostly the flavours are of plastic. Unpleasant. Hot aftertaste, with some dryness on the finish and of short length. Shot to bits; not unpleasant - just nothing. 74/100.
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Cockburn 1851
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Re: 1980 Borges & Irmão

Post by jdaw1 » 12:21 Tue 23 Aug 2011

Yikes: I don’t recall an AHB score that low. Generally those so low aren’t rated.

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Alex Bridgeman
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Re: 1980 Borges & Irmão

Post by Alex Bridgeman » 20:08 Tue 23 Aug 2011

jdaw1 wrote:Yikes: I don’t recall an AHB score that low. Generally those so low aren’t rated.
True, I seldom gives scores that low. However, based on an admittedly limited experience, I have formed an opinion that Borges vintage ports do not mature well. Since I am not convinced that this was a bad bottle, I gave it a score. The port was not offensive - other than by being so bland as to be nothing. Hence a score, albeit a low one. Low enough to mean that if someone offered me a glass of Borges 1980 or a glass of water I would probably choose the water.
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Top Ports in 2019: Niepoort VV (1960s bottling) and Quinta do Noval Nacional 2017
Top Ports in 2020 (so far): Croft 1945 and Niepoort VV (1960s bottling)

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marc j.
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Re: 1980 Borges & Irmão

Post by marc j. » 03:41 Fri 26 Aug 2011

AHB wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Yikes: I don’t recall an AHB score that low. Generally those so low aren’t rated.
True, I seldom gives scores that low. However, based on an admittedly limited experience, I have formed an opinion that Borges vintage ports do not mature well. Since I am not convinced that this was a bad bottle, I gave it a score. The port was not offensive - other than by being so bland as be be nothing. Hence a score, albeit a low one. Low enough to mean that if someone offered me a glass of Borges 1980 or a glass of water I would probably choose the water.
WOW! That's saying something. By the way, have you ever tried the 1972 Offley...

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Alex Bridgeman
Fonseca 1963
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Re: 1980 Borges & Irmão

Post by Alex Bridgeman » 22:52 Fri 26 Aug 2011

marc j. wrote: WOW! That's saying something. By the way, have you ever tried the 1972 Offley...
Not yet, but I have one lined up to be opened next year...
Top Ports in 2019: Niepoort VV (1960s bottling) and Quinta do Noval Nacional 2017
Top Ports in 2020 (so far): Croft 1945 and Niepoort VV (1960s bottling)

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WS1
Cruz 1989
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Re: 1980 Borges & Irmão

Post by WS1 » 20:11 Tue 30 Aug 2011

Alex's mark is fully justified; I even think the wine was already maderised :( . There is furher sad news; I have bought in total two bts in order to get the 1980 horicontal complete. This was just the fisrt one. There is a slight chance that the second bt is better since this one was leaking which may have helped the oxidation. However this does not in the slightest change anything for this bt. This was not a very good example of a good vintage port at all. :? :(

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Dow 1980
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Re: 1980 Borges & Irmão

Post by JacobH » 00:19 Sun 04 Sep 2011

AHB wrote:Low enough to mean that if someone offered me a glass of Borges 1980 or a glass of water I would probably choose the water.
:?: :!: :?: Good grief...I am rendered completely speechless... :shock: :shock:
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