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Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 20:23 Mon 12 Sep 2011
by g-man
Date: Friday Oct 28th
Time: 6:30pm
Location: Northsquare -
http://www.northsquareny.com/menu.php
Price: it's a 50$/person prefix + 15$ / btl corkage. (estimated at ~100$/person with tax and tip included)
Theme:
1977 Smith Woodhouse VP
1977 Warres VP
1977 Delaforce VP
1977 Quinta do Cachao VP
1977 Sandeman VP
1977 Dow VP
1986 Warre LBV
1984 Smith Woodhouse LBV,
1982 Taylor LBV
I've made a reservation for 11 under my name Jeff and put a credit card down to hold the reservations.
Edit: back to 11.
We get a private room.
Here's the food menu for the prefixe
choice of 1 from app/dinner/dessert.
for appetizers:
Lobster Risotto, Endive Salad, Tuna tartare and the Crab cakes
for dinner
duck breast, lamb, filet, scallops
and for dessert
creme brulee, chocolate muousse cake, ice creams and sorbets.
Guests:
Zelandakh + 2
Chris Doty + 1
G-man + 1
DoubleD
Sushinorth + 1
DifferentDAve
Re: Official October 29th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 09:44 Wed 14 Sep 2011
by jdaw1
This thread resuming the conversation in
NY - October 2011?.
Re: Official October 29th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 14:26 Wed 14 Sep 2011
by g-man
This is the official thread, that one had a hodge podge of confusing information.
Re: Official Friday October 28th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 21:01 Wed 14 Sep 2011
by Chris Doty
Should be game for this (especially if it is held on Manhattan).
Warre horizontal sounds like a great idea (I think I have '66, '70, '77 and '94 on hand). Warre LBV, while slightly less exciting, is also interesting. My only option would be the W86 LBV. Could also be game for an 87 tasting (I suspect this vintage may not get better than it is currently).
Looking forward to it
Re: Official Friday October 28th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 21:47 Wed 14 Sep 2011
by DRT
Chris Doty wrote:Warre horizontal sounds like a great idea
Which bottle of Warre are you all going to choose to share for this exciting "horizontal"?

Re: Official Friday October 28th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 00:15 Thu 15 Sep 2011
by g-man
DRT wrote:Chris Doty wrote:Warre horizontal sounds like a great idea
Which bottle of Warre are you all going to choose to share for this exciting "horizontal"?

HHEHEHHEE that made me giggle
Re: Official Friday October 28th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 19:38 Thu 15 Sep 2011
by Zelandakh
How about a Warre's vertical until WE'RE horizontal?

Re: Official Friday October 28th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 12:05 Fri 16 Sep 2011
by differentdave
Uncle Jacks would work.
I was thinking of Mr K's on LEx and 51st, they have a few private rooms downstairs and a nice open space on the 2nd floor. A little pricey but I can arrange for a limited menu with corkage/taxand tip built into one price (around the same price as Uncle Jacks). DO not think this venue has been used before?
Re: Official Friday October 28th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 13:35 Fri 16 Sep 2011
by g-man
differentdave wrote:Uncle Jacks would work.
I was thinking of Mr K's on LEx and 51st, they have a few private rooms downstairs and a nice open space on the 2nd floor. A little pricey but I can arrange for a limited menu with corkage/taxand tip built into one price (around the same price as Uncle Jacks). DO not think this venue has been used before?
eh, I've never been a fan of paying for overpriced chinese food.
Re: Official Friday October 28th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 15:30 Mon 19 Sep 2011
by g-man
So, I really need people to get back to me. Organizing a tasting for potentially 10 people requires reservations. Any direction on what people are willing to pay for meals, as I make no assumptions, is required.
We can worry about themes at the last minute.
Here's the options:
From previous, we were able to get uncle jacks for 125$/person (all in , tips/tax + corkage) It's a prefix menu that comes with app, soup/salad, entree and dessert and a private room for the tasting.
Harry's we would have to sort out the corkage before hand but it usually comes down to 10$/btl with food bill coming to ~100/person but we also get a private room.
Peking duck house in mid town would be 5-10$/person for corkage and food would be ~50$/person. Semi private but you get those nice large round tables.
Palm will be ~100$/person and corkage dpeends on if the GM is working that day or not (I have to call). We also get nice round tables but in the main dining hall.
Mr K's will most l ikely be around 80-90$/person including tax and tip.
That place uptown we went to for the 70s tasting was pretty reasonable actually both price and corkage wise and they let us stay the entire time, the tables were just a tad tight though.
Re: Official Friday October 28th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 20:45 Wed 21 Sep 2011
by Zelandakh
4 of us are pretty much on for the friday night somewhere kinda nice but none of us know any of the prospective venues.
All sounded nice except the chinese - chinese and port? Thinking not...
Will contact brother and see if he has any strong views. Do you have links to the venues - pictures especially and will forward to the ladies too and see if they have a preference.
Re: Official Friday October 28th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 03:02 Thu 22 Sep 2011
by g-man
Chinese and port goes quite well actually
I've made a few believers in NY, though I 'm not sure if KillerB would agree except to say it brings out a different dimension to the food
http://www.unclejacks.com
http://www.thepalm.com
http://www.mrksny.com/
http://www.harrysnyc.com/
http://www.pekingduckhousenyc.com
http://www.sarabethswest.com
Re: Official Friday October 28th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 13:37 Sun 25 Sep 2011
by g-man
okay so the palm has been chosen, I think uncle jacks would be a back up.
Zelandakh, where's your sense of adventure, NY has some of the best chinese in the world

Re: Official Friday October 28th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 13:53 Sun 25 Sep 2011
by differentdave
i have port with eggs so port and Chinese seems more than normal/typical for me.
Which Palm was decided?
Re: Official Friday October 28th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 21:37 Sun 25 Sep 2011
by g-man
differentdave wrote:i have port with eggs so port and Chinese seems more than normal/typical for me.
Which Palm was decided?
The one that lets us have free corkage
so the answer is I have no idea.
Roll call on who's going
are you in dave?
you never gave me a yes
Sushi are you in? same goes with you.
I understand it's only me + z + 3 + chris.
Re: Official Friday October 28th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 13:12 Mon 26 Sep 2011
by g-man
Okay, here's a hard deadline for you slackers.
If by Sept 30th I do not hear from you guys on who's going and who's not going
I'm going to set the total party to exactly 6 people.
The venue then will switch to a fine restaurant that I know will definitely accomodate 6 people and 6 people only with free corkage unless someone else wishes to do the planning.
Edit: I say this because if i book a larger table for some of these other places i may get hit with having to pay for no shows.
Re: Official Friday October 28th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 18:33 Mon 26 Sep 2011
by g-man
We have another option
northsquare in the village
it's 38$/pre fix + 15$/btl corkage
which will still come out cheaper then the above.
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 20:25 Thu 29 Sep 2011
by g-man
see first post for details
Re: Official Friday October 28th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 23:07 Thu 29 Sep 2011
by SushiNorth
g-man wrote:differentdave wrote:i have port with eggs so port and Chinese seems more than normal/typical for me.
Which Palm was decided?
The one that lets us have free corkage
Hey, if Palm West is offering free corkage, great (I'd thought we'd picked Duckhouse, when we chatted, but Palm is a fine alternative).
I'm in, and it's booked on my cal (which makes it pretty fixed). I've an event the following evening, anyways, so friday works well.
Theme time.
Re: Official Friday October 28th - NY Offline: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 00:24 Fri 30 Sep 2011
by g-man
SushiNorth wrote:g-man wrote:differentdave wrote:i have port with eggs so port and Chinese seems more than normal/typical for me.
Which Palm was decided?
The one that lets us have free corkage
Hey, if Palm West is offering free corkage, great (I'd thought we'd picked Duckhouse, when we chatted, but Palm is a fine alternative).
I'm in, and it's booked on my cal (which makes it pretty fixed). I've an event the following evening, anyways, so friday works well.
Theme time.
please see first post
the palm did not give us free corkage.
I went with one that did but with private room.
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 07:34 Sun 02 Oct 2011
by Zelandakh
g-man, this looks good. I don't know North Square but then again I've never been to New York
Now the question remains of what to bring...what sort of thing are you thinking to bring yourself / expecting?
If I need to pick something up that week, is there a good recommendation somewhere in NY for walking around and browsing?
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 15:34 Mon 03 Oct 2011
by g-man
Zelandakh wrote:g-man, this looks good. I don't know North Square but then again I've never been to New York
Now the question remains of what to bring...what sort of thing are you thinking to bring yourself / expecting?
If I need to pick something up that week, is there a good recommendation somewhere in NY for walking around and browsing?
mm I'm sorting out the cellar,
i might bring something like an 84 taylor lbv with also a port from 70s.
<B>NOTE: I've already put down a deposit for holding this reservation and they're expecting 8 people. If you can not make it let me know. </b>
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 15:45 Mon 03 Oct 2011
by SushiNorth
Zelandakh wrote:Now the question remains of what to bring...what sort of thing are you thinking to bring yourself / expecting?
If I need to pick something up that week, is there a good recommendation somewhere in NY for walking around and browsing?
g-man wrote:i might bring something like an 84 taylor lbv with also a port from 70s.
Zelandakh: g-man and I have pretty deep cellars, and generally acquired below retail. Adoption is always an option

Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 15:53 Mon 03 Oct 2011
by SushiNorth
g-man wrote:i might bring something like an 84 taylor lbv with also a port from 70s.
Hmm, i happen to have a 94 Taylor LBV. I was saving it for comparison with the 94 Taylor VP, but we might just want to open it for something like this. Perhaps alongside a 200x Taylor LBV?
As for bringing something from the 70's, i've got 70 Warres and 77 Smith Woodhouse, both of which might be appropriate for this tasting. I also have a couple of leakers we may need to tap into, it includes an F77, some of those dubious W63s, a Hoopers 63 (which we wrote off as an odd drink, but not a good VP), and a Burmester 80.
Speaking of 80's, there's always GC80 and Ch85.
Clearly, we need to find a theme in all this

Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 16:26 Mon 03 Oct 2011
by g-man
SushiNorth wrote:g-man wrote:i might bring something like an 84 taylor lbv with also a port from 70s.
Hmm, i happen to have a 94 Taylor LBV. I was saving it for comparison with the 94 Taylor VP, but we might just want to open it for something like this. Perhaps alongside a 200x Taylor LBV?
As for bringing something from the 70's, i've got 70 Warres and 77 Smith Woodhouse, both of which might be appropriate for this tasting. I also have a couple of leakers we may need to tap into, it includes an F77, some of those dubious W63s, a Hoopers 63 (which we wrote off as an odd drink, but not a good VP), and a Burmester 80.
Speaking of 80's, there's always GC80 and Ch85.
Clearly, we need to find a theme in all this

we might be able to do something like that
84 lbv with an 85 taylor vp vs a 94 taylor lbv vs a 94 taylor vp?
i have a churchils 94 (not that good though, and one i tend to open for random guests who want something sweet to go with chocolate

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Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 22:16 Mon 03 Oct 2011
by Chris Doty
What happened to Warre?
Seems like we can do at least W58, W60, W66, W70, W77. Anyone have the 63?
That'd be my vote.
Or maybe a 1980 VP tasting.
Thoughts?
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 22:32 Mon 03 Oct 2011
by SushiNorth
Chris Doty wrote:What happened to Warre?
Seems like we can do at least W58, W60, W66, W70, W77. Anyone have the 63?
That'd be my vote.
Or maybe a 1980 VP tasting.
Thoughts?
Doing a Taylor smattering, or a Taylor LBV 1-per-decade is interesting, but I agree that we may want to try something more defined. I have a lot of Warre, less of 80:
W: 63*, 70, 77, 83, 85, 94, 97 etc. Missing: 60, 66, 75, 80, 91.
* Some of these W63s are in dismal condition, but i think i've one that's still red.
80: T***, F***, D**, G, Burmester, Gould Campbell (good stuff, btw)
** We just had this at the Dow tasting, deemed it too young
*** Only 1 ea, acquired to support an F or T vertical in the future.
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 22:36 Mon 03 Oct 2011
by Chris Doty
Yeah -- Warre seems to be the no brainer to me. I have a '66, and I'm sure we could find any of the others that we really would feel we're missing.
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 19:03 Tue 04 Oct 2011
by Zelandakh
OK, so shall we settle on Warre's as a theme then?
I'd like to adopt a bottle please and for simplicity would also like to ask for a second bottle for adoption by my brother. I will ask the ladies whether they are planning on attending with red wine or partaking - how many bottles are you planning on bringing for execution?
Also, are we up to an 8 ball?
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 20:02 Tue 04 Oct 2011
by Zelandakh
Looks like we're a maximum of 7 and yet the table is booked for 8. Do we have a mystery attendee?
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 20:37 Tue 04 Oct 2011
by SushiNorth
Zelandakh wrote:OK, so shall we settle on Warre's as a theme then?
I'd like to adopt a bottle please and for simplicity would also like to ask for a second bottle for adoption by my brother. I will ask the ladies whether they are planning on attending with red wine or partaking - how many bottles are you planning on bringing for execution?
Not sure what the total # was, g-man or Chris may have known of someone else joining.
I was chatting with g-man and it sounds like we were leaning more toward the LBV+70's approach, rather than the warre's vertical. We'll settle on a theme soon I'm sure. Once we get there, we can arrange any necessary adoptions.
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 22:00 Tue 04 Oct 2011
by g-man
differetndave did say yes in the beginning so i gave 8 when i put deposit down for reservations.
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 04:55 Wed 05 Oct 2011
by g-man
Need you guys to vote on menu.
can everyone pm me their personal emails?
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 03:51 Thu 06 Oct 2011
by differentdave
Good looking out on the reservation for 8< just logged in and thought I missed the deadline, please count me in and I can bring something from 60's or 70'sor source a bottle...whatever works best for the group.
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 14:37 Thu 06 Oct 2011
by Zelandakh
OK, so next steps are the theme - will be decided by the local members and what is in their cellar.
I would like to adopt as would my brother and would my GF.
Babysitter has now fallen through so my sis in law isn't now coming - sorry about that.
Q:
What about glasses - are they provided by the venue or "us"?
Is a taxi at 22.30 a good plan? Need to get it booked you see.
Many thanks,
Nick
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 14:49 Thu 06 Oct 2011
by g-man
Zelandakh wrote:OK, so next steps are the theme - will be decided by the local members and what is in their cellar.
I would like to adopt as would my brother and would my GF.
Babysitter has now fallen through so my sis in law isn't now coming - sorry about that.
Q:
What about glasses - are they provided by the venue or "us"?
Is a taxi at 22.30 a good plan? Need to get it booked you see.
Many thanks,
Nick
where are you staying?
it's like 14$ to go from the village to midtown (50s)
22.30 is just convinent i guess.
sushi and i have glasses.
Nick PM me your email
I need you to review the menu
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 20:48 Thu 06 Oct 2011
by Chris Doty
My GF (terry) is free to attend (which I think means we're back to 8).
Happy to support the LBV + 70s theme.
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 10:54 Fri 07 Oct 2011
by Zelandakh
Perfect - 2 ladies in the group sounds good.
Sounds like we are nearly there, need to confirm a theme then look at adopting options.
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 13:56 Fri 07 Oct 2011
by g-man
theme
bring 1 bottle of lbv
1 bottle from the 70s.
take a pick which one you want to adopt since i'm flying solo.
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 19:04 Fri 07 Oct 2011
by Chris Doty
Ok
To show some leadership, I'm going to plan on bringing:
1986 Warre Late Bottled Vintage (terry)
1977 Sandeman Vintage Port (chris)
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 07:38 Sat 08 Oct 2011
by differentdave
I will stick with the 77's and toss a dow 77 into the ring.
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 19:02 Sat 08 Oct 2011
by jdaw1
Who is to make placemats?
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 19:21 Sat 08 Oct 2011
by g-man
okay I'll find a 77 to throw in also
bringing the 84' taylor lbv.
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 19:42 Sat 08 Oct 2011
by Zelandakh
Can I get some adoption options PM'd please? I'll need 3 please
Placemats is a good point - any volunteers?
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 13:50 Mon 10 Oct 2011
by differentdave
gman thread on ws has date as october 29th, I am able to attend on Friday the 28th but not Saturday the 29th. I am assumng the info on tpf is accurate. I can get to restaurant early (I can bring my glasses or I can go to your house prior to pick up your glasses).
I can give the placemats/tasting sheets a try if pointed in the right direction...
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 17:28 Mon 10 Oct 2011
by g-man
yes tpf has the correct info.
I'll have to work out the logistic on the day for myself as I ahve to work that day so I have to see how i'm going to decant/lug bottles and glasses.
Sushi, are you able to bring glasses?
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 18:46 Mon 10 Oct 2011
by SushiNorth
The thread ran off without me knowing... guess i must have missed a notification email.
1) Yes, I can bring glasses.
2) Yes, I will make placemats
3) I am bringing SWC77 + SWC 84 LBV. If someone would like to adopt half of each, that would work out nicely.

Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 19:19 Mon 10 Oct 2011
by Zelandakh
Zelandakh - W77
Lorna - (Mrs Zelandakh) - TBC
My brother - TBC
Sushi - SWC77 and SWC84LBV to split
gman - T84LBV
differentdave - D77
ChrisDoty - Sa77
Terry (Mrs Chris) - W86LBV
So we only need one more bottle and we're sorted.
Current 4 77s and 3 LBV...getting thirsty just thinking about it.
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 20:18 Mon 10 Oct 2011
by g-man
i believe i have a bottle of 77 quinta da cachao that i've been really interested in trying.
Re: Friday October 28th - NY: Zelandakh visits
Posted: 21:00 Mon 10 Oct 2011
by Zelandakh
cacao is chocolate

It will probably be me needing a hot chocolate and yawning all evening...