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Rob, Wolfgang and I are trying to set up a Calem Vertical at the Bunhole on April 23rd, the night before the big fortified tasting.

The following Ports are included:

Calem 1927
Calem Cheires1931
Calem 1935
Calem 1955
Calem 1960
Calem 1963
Calem 1966
Calem 1970
Calem 1977
Calem 1980
Calem 1983
Calem 1985
Calem 1989
Calem 1994
Calem 1995
Calem 1997

List of attendees:

1.Industry Guest
2.Axel P
3.JDAW
4.WS1
5.RAYC
6.Alex B
7.Phil W
8.DRT


Costs for the Ports will be around 130 GBP with 12 paying guests. Please let me know if you are in. As ususal first come - first serve.

Have a wonderful christmas

Axel

Yes please. (Though, please, ‟Cálem”, with accent.)

Should I do the usual?

Yes please. I don't get to drink many wines from Calem (with or without an accent) and those I do drink, I enjoy.

AHB wrote:Should I do the usual?

Yes, please, Julian Without you these tastings would be much less organised and much less enjoyable.

Axel

Hi Axel, I think you forot me? I'm in, confirmed available for 23rd April.

What is Cálem Chieres 1931?

jdaw1 wrote:What is Cálem Chieres 1931?

This is a vey good question, Jdaw. I asked both, the Sogevinus Group and Bento Amaral to check the selo-number. The selo came up with a Colheita from the late 60s, which does not make sense. It says on the bottle engarrafeira em 1937. Lets see.

Axel

Please post photograph of the label.

First draft of the placemats. [Edit: link removed.]

And DRT is in, please.

Updated.

Thank you.

The importer still exists: michelsen.de, ‟! L.W.C. Michelsen, der Genußmanufaktur für Feinkost, Spezialitäten, Weine und Präsente seit 1814 in Hamburg”. Have you asked them whether the ‟Cheires” was an importer’s brand? (The upper label is in Portuguese, so might have a different source. But worth asking. If you are too shy in German, I’ll ask in English.)

Axel P wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:What is Cálem Chieres 1931?

This is a vey good question, Jdaw. I asked both, the Sogevinus Group and Bento Amaral to check the selo-number. The selo came up with a Colheita from the late 60s, which does not make sense. It says on the bottle engarrafeira em 1937. Lets see.

Axel

it probably didn't have a Selo to begin with (like many bottles in the cellars of producers). Only once it was taxed or ready for sale the Selo could have then been applied and registered. So possibly why the IVDP now shows it being from the 60's. as that was the register date of the Selo.

I've run across a similar occurrence once before with an old Colheita I was researching.

Andy, fortunately it did have a Selo and I do have some possibles of its origin. Assuncao Calem told me that this most probably was a Vintage Port bottled later than ususal. Pedro Sa said roughly the same. Bento Amaral researched the Selo and it was for a registered lot of Colheitas bottled in the late 70s. I had a quick argument with him about this and we more or less agreed in assuming that the selo was used improperly for this bottle.

I am very curious to see what comes out, when we open this bottle.

Axel

Unfortunately not enough members seem to be interested in a tasting like this. If we do not receive some 10 members by the end of March, I would rather like to have the Warre/ Warre LBV tasting there and keep the Calems for a later event.

Axel

Perhaps a couple of posts to keep this current to check for more interest might garner addition sign-ups (several of the frequent attendees of larger tastings have not replied for this one yet) in case people missed the original posting of this event over Xmas; I hope so, as am looking forward to it.

Phil.

Dear all,

since we have a good other topic for April 23rd and Calem does not seem to rock the hearts of the island, I cancel the Calem vertical and will move this to a time, where hopefully more of you have made the very good experiences with old Calem Vintage Ports and will be more enthusiastic about this.

@Julian: looking much forward to the Warre LBV-tasting.

Axel

And I to a delayed Cálem vertical.

Can the word "CANCELED" be replaced with "Postponed"?

Hi,

very happy that the Calem vertical was postponed since due to business reasons I would have not been able to attend anymore. Would want suggest a date very much later in the year since it is getting too warm for old ports in tastings.

regards

WS1