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Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 13:42 Mon 11 Mar 2013
by jdaw1
This post to hold arrangements when they are agreed.
Wednesday 24th April 2013 (after
the BFT).
Location:
The Bung Hole, 57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT, tel 020 7831 8365
(streetmap.co.uk, maps.google.co.uk).
Theme: some 2007 LBVs.
- Tesco, ‟Bottled by Symington Family Estates”;
- Waitrose, ‟In Partnership with Symington Family Estates”;
- Sainsbury’s, ‟Bottled by Symington Family Estates”;
- Cockburn;
- Graham;
- Marks & Spencer, ‟Bottled by Quinta and Vineyard Bottlers”;
- Taylor;
- Sandeman;
- Morrisons, ‟Bottled by Symington Family Estates”.
Who?
- AHB;
- JDAW;
- DRT;
- DJ;
- RB (friend of DJ);
- RAYC.
Current
draft of the placemats.
Re: 2007 LBVs
Posted: 13:42 Mon 11 Mar 2013
by jdaw1
Recently I have acquired six 2007 LBVs. From Tesco: Taylor; Cockburn; and a Tesco BOB made by the Symingtons. From Waitrose: Sandeman; Graham’s; and a Waitrose BOB made by the Symingtons.
2007 LBVs would make a pleasant non-expensive theme for a small gathering. I’m willing to provide these six, which get us started and, numbers dependent, might even be sufficient. The ‟Where?” question has the obvious answer. But who and when?
Re: 2007 LBVs
Posted: 14:44 Mon 11 Mar 2013
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:The ‟Where?” question has the obvious answer. But who and when?
The "who?" question also has at least a partly obvious answer. I am flexible on the when.
Wednesday 24th April - 2007 LBVs
Posted: 20:11 Tue 16 Apr 2013
by Alex Bridgeman
JDAW has amassed a small collection of 2007 LBVs from various supermarkets and is offering these for adoption and participation in a 2007 Supermarket LBV Offline.
Wednesday 24th April in the usual place?
JDAW and AHB are in. Anyone else?
Re: Wednesday 24th April - 2007 LBVs
Posted: 20:16 Tue 16 Apr 2013
by djewesbury
Yes I imagine that come the evening of the 24th we'll all be suffering hideous port withdrawal... Go on then, DJ + 1 please (RB, dexter).
Re: Wednesday 24th April - 2007 LBVs
Posted: 20:30 Tue 16 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
Original and new topics merged.
First
draft of the placemats.
Re: Wednesday 24th April - 2007 LBVs
Posted: 20:33 Tue 16 Apr 2013
by RAYC
I would like to join you, but probably for food only as i'm trying to limit the amount i drink (but - as a trade-off - aim to indulge in the "good stuff" when i do!). As such, 07 LBVs have limited appeal (though the Sandeman is rather tasty).
I'll probably have a bottle of VP or something with me, but will see how i feel after 23rd. If i do, those who are not being purist in their approach to LBVs would be welcome to share.
Re: Wednesday 24th April - 2007 LBVs
Posted: 21:57 Tue 16 Apr 2013
by Alex Bridgeman
RAYC wrote:I'll probably have a bottle of VP or something with me...
A man after my own heart. Don't tell anyone, but I plan to do the same thing.
Re: Wednesday 24th April - 2007 LBVs
Posted: 23:34 Tue 16 Apr 2013
by DRT
AHB wrote:RAYC wrote:I'll probably have a bottle of VP or something with me...
A man after my own heart. Don't tell anyone, but I plan to do the same thing.
Do we really need more?
Yes, of course we do, you have persuaded me. I'll bring a back-up VP in case either RAYC or AHB's is unduly compromised*.
* "unduly compromised" = "consumed before closing time"
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 01:41 Wed 17 Apr 2013
by djewesbury
Maybe I'll bring a bottle of Co-op 2007... I hear it's a top-flight wine.
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 12:45 Fri 19 Apr 2013
by djewesbury
djewesbury wrote:Maybe I'll bring a bottle of Co-op 2007... I hear it's a top-flight wine.
Actually I will bring some of
this (a bottle, maybe two, but not, as implied in the link, a case: sorry, jdaw).
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 16:20 Fri 19 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
djewesbury wrote:Actually I will bring some of
this (a bottle, maybe two, but not, as implied in the link, a case: sorry, jdaw).
Damn I bought one of those today, for £13.84: ‟Bottled by Quinta & Vineyard Bottlers”.
djewesbury wrote:Maybe I'll bring a bottle of Co-op 2007... I hear it's a top-flight wine.
If this comment was serious, excellent. Please do. (Alas
www.co-operativefood.co.uk is utterly useless. But there’s one near me I’ll check.)
I haven’t yet checked Sainsbury’s, but the
online catalogue might have, at best, Graham and Cockburn, both of which we already have.
Morrisons have Taylor, Cockburn, Graham all of which we have and
Morrisons 2007 LBV Port, ‟Sourced from the same Symington estates as many of the 'big boys'”. (Though at least some of the description was written for the 2006 LBV, but the ’07 is definitely SFE.) Please could somebody volunteer to acquire one?
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 16:33 Fri 19 Apr 2013
by djewesbury
jdaw1 wrote:djewesbury wrote:Actually I will bring some of
this (a bottle, maybe two, but not, as implied in the link, a case: sorry, jdaw).
Damn I bought one of those today, for £13.84: ‟Bottled by Quinta & Vineyard Bottlers”.
Are M&S the only chain grocers supplied by Taylor Fladgate? Or are other BOBs Taylor? Most seem to be SFE.
What does BOB stand for?
jdaw1 wrote:djewesbury wrote:Maybe I'll bring a bottle of Co-op 2007... I hear it's a top-flight wine.
If this comment was serious, excellent. Please do.
It was an attempt at the lowest form of wit, I admit it.. BUT I accept the challenge, and will try and find one.
Incidentally, has anyone posted anything regarding which quintas / brands the shippers are using for their BOBs? Is Sainsbury's SFE the same as Tesco's SFE?
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 16:37 Fri 19 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
djewesbury wrote:What does BOB stand for?
Buyer’s
Own
Brand.
djewesbury wrote:jdaw1 wrote:djewesbury wrote:Maybe I'll bring a bottle of Co-op 2007... I hear it's a top-flight wine.
If this comment was serious, excellent. Please do.
It was an attempt at the lowest form of wit, I admit it.. BUT I accept the challenge, and will try and find one.
I edited as you were posting.
djewesbury wrote:Is Sainsbury's SFE the same as Tesco's SFE?
Use your palate and nose, and judge for yourself. But some differences are merely marketing: if two supermarket are selling Blogg Brothers’ Ruby, there can be price competition. If one supermarket sells Blogg Brothers’ Ruby ‘Pebbles’, and the other sells Blogg Brothers’ Ruby ‘Gravel’, there is no price competition. And the wines might, or might not, identical. Indeed, might be identical in some years, and not in others.
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 16:44 Fri 19 Apr 2013
by djewesbury
This is 2005, rather than 2007, unfortunately.
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 17:46 Fri 19 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
My local Co-op has no port at all.
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 17:55 Fri 19 Apr 2013
by djewesbury
jdaw1 wrote:My local Co-op has no port at all.
A mission, then. I shall find Co-op central when I am in London.
Re: Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung
Posted: 18:00 Fri 19 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
djewesbury wrote:A mission, then. I shall find Co-op central when I am in London.
It might be more productive to find a Morrisons.
Re: Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung
Posted: 18:18 Fri 19 Apr 2013
by djewesbury
jdaw1 wrote:djewesbury wrote:A mission, then. I shall find Co-op central when I am in London.
It might be more productive to find a Morrisons.
Both then.
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 19:18 Fri 19 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
Cockburn 2007 LBV
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 19:18 Fri 19 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
Waitrose BOB 2007 LBV
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 19:19 Fri 19 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
Tesco BOB 2007 LBV
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 19:19 Fri 19 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
Taylor 2007 LBV
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 19:19 Fri 19 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
Marks & Spencer BOB 2007 LBV
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 19:20 Fri 19 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
Sandeman 2007 LBV
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 19:21 Fri 19 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
Graham 2007 LBV
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 10:54 Sat 20 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
SCP-DFS went to Sainsbury’’s, and came back with two of the Sainsbury’s 2007 LBV, ‟Bottled by Symington Family Estates”.
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 16:01 Sat 20 Apr 2013
by Alex Bridgeman
I am not far from Morrison's. I will volunteer to bring a Morrison's own label 2007 LBV provided everyone else promises not to. I do not want to be left with an unopened bottle of 2007 LBV that I am forced to include on my drinking list for next year!
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 17:01 Sat 20 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
I promise!
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 17:06 Sat 20 Apr 2013
by djewesbury
Yes I also promise. I see there is a Co-op Food near to my father's house and also (if that proves dry) one off Kingsway.
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 21:46 Sat 20 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 08:00 Sun 21 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
jdaw1 wrote:djewesbury wrote:Is Sainsbury's SFE the same as Tesco's SFE?
Use your palate and nose, and judge for yourself. But some differences are merely marketing: if two supermarket are selling Blogg Brothers’ Ruby, there can be price competition. If one supermarket sells Blogg Brothers’ Ruby ‘Pebbles’, and the other sells Blogg Brothers’ Ruby ‘Gravel’, there is no price competition. And the wines might, or might not, identical. Indeed, might be identical in some years, and not in others.
Which isn’t so different.
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 11:24 Sun 21 Apr 2013
by Alex Bridgeman
I am not in my office before either of the tastings so cannot print.
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 11:27 Sun 21 Apr 2013
by Alex Bridgeman
I will visit Asda later today, as well as Morrisons, and see whether Asda have any 2007 LBVs not already included.
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 15:12 Sun 21 Apr 2013
by Alex Bridgeman
I now own a bottle of Morrison's Own Label 2007 LBV. Asda sell Own Label Finest Reserve, but not LBV (why would you when BOB Finest Reserve is £8 and Cockburn 2007 LBV is £9?). Lidl only sell a reserve ruby (from C da Silva @ £9.29).
Costco are reputed to have a good own label range of ports if anyone is near a Costco.
Could the owner of the thread add a list of the ports we will be drinking to the first post please?
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 18:44 Sun 21 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
AHB wrote:I now own a bottle of Morrison's Own Label 2007 LBV.
Bottled by whom, please? Even better, send or post a photograph.
Edit:
Re: Wednesday 24th April - 2007 LBVs
Posted: 18:59 Sun 21 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 09:41 Mon 22 Apr 2013
by RAYC
Are you doing blind, or sighted?
Blind would eliminate label bias.
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 09:52 Mon 22 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
Blind, after the BFT?!
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 15:52 Mon 22 Apr 2013
by jdaw1
There’s also a simplicity to it. We might have post-BFT leftovers. I have invited one trade person to show up when he can, if he can. That flexibility is easier if everybody knows everything all the time.
Re: Wed 24th April 2013 (post-BFT), 2007 LBVs, The Bung Hole
Posted: 21:08 Mon 22 Apr 2013
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:There’s also a simplicity to it. We might have post-BFT leftovers. I have invited one trade person to show up when he can, if he can. That flexibility is easier if everybody knows everything all the time.
That man might be bringing a BOB that is, very unusually for the UK market, produced by a shipper he represents.