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Can anyone advise whether they have got Tapatalk push notifications to work on an iPhone 4S? I installed this to obviate the need for email notifications, which are not the handiest way to manage new posts. However I receive no push notifications and the Tapatalk support is useless. Any clues..?
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Tapatalk is... well, buggy, I think. I use a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, which is an Android phone, so my results may differ from yours.

Push notifications for PMs work fine for me at both TPF and FTLOP. I don't use push notifications for any other purpose so cannot comment on further functionality.

However, the "Latest -> Unread" tab is inconsistent. It seems to work fine at FTLOP, but is rubbish at TPF. I often use Tapatalk to check TPF and am told by the "Latest -> Unread" tab that there are no new posts, yet when I check the "Forums" tab there are many new posts. Sometimes dozens.
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I have installed the latest version of Tapatalk on this forum.

It seems to work fine on my iPhone5 but can others please test on other devices and report any errors/problems here?
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So far so good on my iPhone 5
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It appears to have fixed the bug I've been seeing... Latest->Unread is back to showing new posts. Yay!
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I received a push notification on my iPhone 4S for the first time ever!
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This reply posted using Tapatalk on my Android phone. So working for me.
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DRT wrote:I have installed the latest version of Tapatalk on this forum.
Andy Velebil wrote:So far so good on my iPhone 5
djewesbury wrote:I received a push notification on my iPhone 4S for the first time ever!
Glenn E. wrote:It appears to have fixed the bug I've been seeing... Latest->Unread is back to showing new posts. Yay!
jdaw1 wrote:This reply posted using Tapatalk on my Android phone. So working for me.
Do I get a gold star? :D
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I didn't receive a push notification of JDAW's message via Tapatalk (I did via email). Grumble.

EDIT: I did receive a notification of DRT's!
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DRT wrote:Do I get a gold star? :D
:GoldStar:

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jdaw1 wrote: :GoldStar:
And I received a push notification when you posted it :D
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I have unsubscribed from forums, cleared the cache, turned notifications off, logged out and quit everything and then done the reverse of all that. Let's see if the notifications work properly now.
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Did you get one for this?
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DRT wrote:Did you get one for this?
By email. Not by Tapatalk. Gaahhh!!
I will uninstall and reinstall it later...
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Have you created and logged in with a Tapatalk ID? (accessed via Settings)
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DRT wrote:Have you created and logged in with a Tapatalk ID? (accessed via Settings)
Yeah. Now I have deleted the app and reinstalled it and logged in and subscribed to all the forums (lots of gold stars) and I wait with bated breath....
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Are you breathing normally now?
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DRT wrote:Are you breathing normally now?
mmnnggnnmmnngg! :crying:
*exhales*
I give up. There is nothing else left that I can switch off and on again. No doubt it'll start working by itself next week some time, in the middle of the night.
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djewesbury wrote:
DRT wrote:Are you breathing normally now?
mmnnggnnmmnngg! :crying:
*exhales*
I give up. There is nothing else left that I can switch off and on again. No doubt it'll start working by itself next week some time, in the middle of the night.
Notifications must be specifically turned on in the android version of the app. Simply subscribing to threads, etc, is insufficient.

Also, push notifications via the app may (or may not) be immediate. I don't know how the iPhone handles such things, but for power management purposes it might only check apps every 30 minutes or something like that.
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Glenn E. wrote:
djewesbury wrote:
DRT wrote:Are you breathing normally now?
mmnnggnnmmnngg! :crying:
*exhales*
I give up. There is nothing else left that I can switch off and on again. No doubt it'll start working by itself next week some time, in the middle of the night.
Notifications must be specifically turned on in the android version of the app. Simply subscribing to threads, etc, is insufficient.

Also, push notifications via the app may (or may not) be immediate. I don't know how the iPhone handles such things, but for power management purposes it might only check apps every 30 minutes or something like that.
There are actually 3 separate places were one needs to check notification settings - in the app, in the general notifications preferences, and in the preferences within those for each app.
It now seems to be working, though! And the notifications come appreciably quicker than they do via email. Fingers crossed...
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Everyone appears to be receiving the push notifications except one person. Evidence appears to be emerging as to where the problem might lie.
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Our posts crossed.
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DRT wrote:Everyone appears to be receiving the push notifications except one person. Evidence appears to be emerging as to where the problem might lie.
:evil:
DRT wrote:Our posts crossed.
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djewesbury wrote:It now seems to be working
:VegetableStar: for Daniel (as they seem to be being handed out willy-nilly today)

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Here's something interesting. There seems to be no way in Tapatalk to delete PMs. This means that if, like me, you hoard all those old messages (saying things like "Don't say anything, I'm going to wind *name removed* up about that bottle of *vintage and shipper redacted*, this should be fun"), and eventually end up with a full inbox, at which point you can no longer receive new messages, you have to go to the full website to delete old messages and release new ones..
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djewesbury wrote:There seems to be no way in Tapatalk to delete PMs.
Slide right and press delete. Or press "Edit" (top left) and click on as many delete symbols as you wish.
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DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:There seems to be no way in Tapatalk to delete PMs.
Slide right and press delete.
!

It's left on an iPhone 4 but yes. Ok. Hello 21st century!
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Do you want another star?
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Yeah go on, can you put them on a piece of plastic with my name on it and a safety pin at the back? And would you like fries with that?
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I'm going to turn my notifications off - they are too distracting!
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DRT wrote:I'm going to turn my notifications off - they are too distracting!
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djewesbury wrote:hoard all those old messages (saying things like "Don't say anything, I'm going to wind *name removed* up about that bottle of *vintage and shipper redacted*, this should be fun"), and eventually end up with a full inbox
Allegedly, a packrat might be able to create multiple extra mailboxes within the PM system so that said packrat might be able to keep all messages ever sent or received.

Doing so might render the message limit redundant, however, which is why this remains a rumor.
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Glenn E. wrote:Allegedly, a packrat might be able to create multiple extra mailboxes within the PM system so that said packrat might be able to keep all messages ever sent or received.
The parameter ‘Maximum private message folders’ is currently 4, and ‘Maximum private messages per box’ is 50.
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jdaw1 wrote:
Glenn E. wrote:Allegedly, a packrat might be able to create multiple extra mailboxes within the PM system so that said packrat might be able to keep all messages ever sent or received.
The parameter ‘Maximum private message folders’ is currently 4, and ‘Maximum private messages per box’ is 50.
I see... Yes. Very handy. For a little while..
Oh.. No notifications again!
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djewesbury wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
Glenn E. wrote:Allegedly, a packrat might be able to create multiple extra mailboxes within the PM system so that said packrat might be able to keep all messages ever sent or received.
The parameter ‘Maximum private message folders’ is currently 4, and ‘Maximum private messages per box’ is 50.
I see... Yes. Very handy. For a little while..
Maximum private messages per box is now 100, maximum number of folders is 10.
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DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
Glenn E. wrote:Allegedly, a packrat might be able to create multiple extra mailboxes within the PM system so that said packrat might be able to keep all messages ever sent or received.
The parameter ‘Maximum private message folders’ is currently 4, and ‘Maximum private messages per box’ is 50.
I see... Yes. Very handy. For a little while..
Maximum private messages per box is now 100, maximum number of folders is 10.
Never again do I need to delete a single word you send me!!
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Tapatalk has been upgraded to version 4.0.0 on the server.

It appears to be working fine on my iPhone 5 and iPad but could those who use it please test and feedback here?

In the interest of transparency, the admins received an email this morning regarding the planned "Monetization" of Tapatalk which, according to the email is scheduled to take place around three months from now. From what I can determine Monetization involves earning money from links to websites that contain paid advertising. The plan seems to be that the owner of the forum containing the link earns a commission from the site it links to. Having discussed this briefly by email the admins are not minded to participate in such a scheme but we will monitor how it works during the three month test phase and then decide what to do, which will probably be to turn it off.

Could those who use Tapatalk please report any instance of seeing advertising when viewing :tpf: here so that we know what is happening from you end?

Interestingly, the Monetization dashboard of our account with Tapatalk says we are $0.12 in credit as a result of various links being used on this forum since May 2013.

We will keep you posted here things become clearer.
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DRT wrote:which will probably be to turn it off.
If possible, which it probably won’t be.
DRT wrote:we are $0.12 in credit
Riches! If we can’t turn off the advertising, I suggest that we use credit to offset hosting costs. If income exceeds hosting costs then â‘  I’ll be utterly amazed; and â‘¡ we’ll then decide what to do with excess money (e.g., subsidise a large tasting).

E.g., let’s guestimate that Tapatalk takes in $10”° (per thousand impressions), and that we get 10% of this, and that one in ten threads has an advertisement. Using the first page of Organising Tastings, which goes back to January, that has 116496 views. So that would be about $12 for us. Double up for the rest of the site, add a bit to get to December, and that’s a wild guess of ≈ $30 to $50 per year. Riches!
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jdaw1 wrote:
DRT wrote:which will probably be to turn it off.
If possible, which it probably won’t be.
From the Tapatalk Forum Owners dashboard...
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This is their testing period. Wait and see. The app is now free; adverts are their only income. No adverts might mean no Tapatalk. (Also, I edited as you posted.)
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jdaw1 wrote:E.g., let’s guestimate that Tapatalk takes in $10”° (per thousand impressions), and that we get 10% of this, and that one in ten threads has an advertisement. Using the first page of Organising Tastings, which goes back to January, that has 116496 views. So that would be about $12 for us. Double up for the rest of the site, add a bit to get to December, and that’s a wild guess of ≈ $30 to $50 per year. Riches!
Ooops: small error. What proportion of these views are Tapatalk rather than browser? Make that 30¢ to 50¢ per year.
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jdaw1 wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:E.g., let’s guestimate that Tapatalk takes in $10”° (per thousand impressions), and that we get 10% of this, and that one in ten threads has an advertisement. Using the first page of Organising Tastings, which goes back to January, that has 116496 views. So that would be about $12 for us. Double up for the rest of the site, add a bit to get to December, and that’s a wild guess of ≈ $30 to $50 per year. Riches!
Ooops: small error. What proportion of these views are Tapatalk rather than browser? Make that 30¢ to 50¢ per year.
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It seems unlikely that all of the stats relate to the last 30 days but there is no further explanation given.
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Three users a day. Guess that each sees ten threads, so one ad impression. So 1000 impressions a year, so $10 to Tapatalk, of which they give us $1. Riches! Enough to buy, perhaps, ½cl of F70.
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The thing is, the people likely to be browsing the forum using Tapatalk are not people we don't know, they are us. In fact, it's me and about two other people. I imagine that if you come across the forum by chance or by googling, you will be looking at it in a browser.. I'd prefer not to see ads.
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djewesbury wrote:The thing is, the people likely to be browsing the forum using Tapatalk are not people we don't know, they are us. In fact, it's me and about two other people. I imagine that if you come across the forum by chance or by googling, you will be looking at it in a browser.. I'd prefer not to see ads.
Agreed: you, me, and two others from this forum. But as ads are Tt’s only income, we’re not likely to have much choice.
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jdaw1 wrote:Agreed: you, me, and two others from this forum.
I think we have five Tapatalk users, one of them being me and two living on the western seaboard of the USA.
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One being me, one in Belfast, and one being a cricket enthusiast. That’s four on the east of the pond.
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jdaw1 wrote:One being me, one in Belfast, and one being a cricket enthusiast. That’s four on the east of the pond.
This leaves only one American then.
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jdaw1 wrote:One being me, one in Belfast, and one being a cricket enthusiast. That’s four on the east of the pond.
This leaves only one American then.
Then we have six.
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This post made using Tapatalk on my phone. So it is working for me.
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