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1970 Château de Sales Pomerol
Posted: 22:41 Sun 01 Dec 2013
by djewesbury
After the BBR Port Walk, some people still felt thirsty. We arrived at the Bung Hole in time to eat some steak burgers and open some bottles that were wrapped in tinfoil.
Quinta do Noval 1978
Graham 1977
Cabral 1940 Colheita
Cockburn 20YO Tawny(bottled 1997)
Quinta do Crasto 1993 LBV
Oliveiras 1968 Bual Madeira
Château de Sales Pomerol 1970
Château La Tour de By 1999
The placemats
Planning and arrangements
Re: 1970 Château de Sales Pomerol
Posted: 18:39 Thu 05 Dec 2013
by g-man
how was this?
i know alex enjoys the 70s bordeaux
i've found most of them tiring/over the hill personally
Re: 1970 Château de Sales Pomerol
Posted: 18:58 Thu 05 Dec 2013
by djewesbury
g-man wrote:how was this?
i know alex enjoys the 70s bordeaux
i've found most of them tiring/over the hill personally
It was striking. A massive farmyard / manure nose and mouth, very pronounced. Apart from that I'm not sure I noticed much else; light acid perhaps. But AHB has a note.
But thanks to DRT for bringing it as part of my old Bordeaux initiation.
Re: 1970 Château de Sales Pomerol
Posted: 05:08 Fri 06 Dec 2013
by g-man
mm =T
i had the cos d'estrounal 78 and the palmer 78 tongiht
both were tiring, barnyard, acid, with no signs of anything else.
downright funky actually
I can say that i'm not a fan of claret from teh 70s.
the 61 though, some of them are wow.
Re: 1970 Château de Sales Pomerol
Posted: 06:36 Wed 11 Dec 2013
by WS1
g-man wrote:mm =T
i had the cos d'estrounal 78 and the palmer 78 tongiht
both were tiring, barnyard, acid, with no signs of anything else.
downright funky actually
I can say that i'm not a fan of claret from teh 70s.
the 61 though, some of them are wow.
Palmer 78 is usually very good; you must have had a bad bt. 78 is generally not so great; wines to look out for are La Mission Haut Brion, Palmer, Pichon Comtesse Lalande and Leoville Las Cases.
I agree the 70s as a decade do not have a lot of great Bordeaux as the 60s have. But there are some noticeable exceptions e.g. Palmer 70, Trotanoy 70 etc.
61s are great I agree, but these days quite expensive
regards
WS1
Re: 1970 Château de Sales Pomerol
Posted: 11:27 Wed 11 Dec 2013
by djewesbury
What does mm = T mean?
Re: 1970 Château de Sales Pomerol
Posted: 21:53 Thu 12 Dec 2013
by Alex Bridgeman
Mature red colour, orange rim, slightly cloudy. Big and powerful on the nose with generous fruit and an earthy tone. Sweet fruit mixed with dirt and earth. Light bodied, very powerful dry tannins that dominate and don't allow balance. Mature, gentle finish. Acceptable drinking, but unbalanced. 74/100.
Re: 1970 Château de Sales Pomerol
Posted: 23:47 Thu 12 Dec 2013
by djewesbury
AHB wrote:Mature red colour, orange rim, slightly cloudy. Big and powerful on the nose with generous fruit and an earthy tone. Sweet fruit mixed with dirt and earth. Light bodied, very powerful dry tannins that dominate and don't allow balance. Mature, gentle finish. Acceptable drinking, but unbalanced. 74/100.
Is this TN possibly a little euphemistic? I think that we agreed in the room that it had a very pronounced 'barnyard' nose, as g-man has termed it in a separate note above. I wonder if words like 'earthy' and 'dirt' could be confusing or just not quite as descriptive as a reader would hope; earthy could mean many things.
I ask in the spirit of enquiry and debate.