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1. 1909 (JNdA);
2. 1924, 65cl (THRA);
3. 1931 (JDAW);
4. 1960 (AP);
5. 1964 (AP);
6. 1970 (AP);
7. 1980 (THRA, WPS?, AP);
8. 1982 (AP);
9. 1983 (WPS?, AP, AHB);
10. 1985 (AP);
11. 1991 (THRA, AP);
12. 1994 (JDAW, AP, AHB);
13. 1994 Ervamoira (AP);
14. 1997 (AP, JDAW).
    
    The current plan is that the tasting will include vintages ≤1997, but anyway noted here is possession of those younger.
15. 2000 (AP);
16. 2002 (AP);
17. 2003 (AP);
18. 2005 (AP);
19. 2007 (AP);
20. 2007 Ervamoira (AP);
21. 2009 Ervamoira (AP);
22. 2011 (AP).

1. João Nicolau de Almeida;
2. Mark Bingley M.W.;
3. Ana Rato (Ramos Pinto head of marketing);
4. JDAW;
5. PW;
6. THRA;
7. WPS;
8. AP;
9. AHB;
10. DJ;
11. MPM;
12. RAYC.

1. DRT;
2. CPR.

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=44021#p44021]Here[/url], on 02 August 2011, jdaw1 wrote:

JacobH wrote:The (very few) Ramos Pinto red Ports I’ve tried have not been great. Am I missing something?

Vickers' Liquors had RP85 at ≈$25 a bottle. A few of us cleared them out, and it was a very satisfactory house VP.

jdaw1 wrote:I would like there to be a deep tasting of many vintages of Ramos-Pinto. But the only Ramos-Pinto vintages I have are 1994 and 1931.

Would anybody else want there to be such a tasting? And which vintages do those people own?

Let’s aim for an autumn date. Preferences? How about Tuesday 21^st October 2014

jdaw1 wrote:I would like there to be a deep tasting of many vintages of Ramos-Pinto. But the only Ramos-Pinto vintages I have are 1994 and 1931.

Would anybody else want there to be such a tasting? And which vintages do those people own?

jdaw1 wrote:People:

1. JDAW;
2. PW;
3. DRT;
4. THRA.

Vintages:

1. 1924, 650cl (THRA);
2. 1931 (JDAW);
3. 1980 (THRA);
4. 1991 (THRA);
5. 1994 (JDAW).

WS1 wrote:the one Axel did in Germany.

Axel P, in organising a [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6030]Ramos Pinto vertical on 13 October 2012[/url], wrote:Joao Nicolau de Almeida and Joao Machete Perreira will come to Germany on Oct 13th for a very decent lineup of Ramos Pinto Vintage Ports:
1880
1924
1931
1934
1935
1945
1960
1970
1980
1982
1983
1985
1991
1994
1997
2000
2003
2007
2011 (CS)
two Colheita bottlings of 1937 (1968 and 1986)
and a single varietal tasting of 1983s comparing this with the Vintage of 1983.

Axel P wrote:Let me know the date asap.

jdaw1 wrote:Let’s aim for an autumn date. Preferences? How about Tuesday 21^st October 2014?

jdaw1 wrote:Vintages:

1. 1924, 650cl (THRA);
2. 1931 (JDAW);
3. 1960 (AP);
4. 1970 (AP);
5. 1980 (THRA, WPS?, AP);
6. 1982 (AP);
7. 1983 (WPS?, AP);
8. 1985 (AP);
9. 1991 (THRA, AP);
10. 1994 (JDAW, WPS?, AP);
11. 1994 Ervamoira (AP);
12. 1997 (AP);
13. 2000 (AP);
14. 2002 (AP);
15. 2003 (AP);
16. 2005 (AP);
17. 2007 (AP);
18. 2007 Ervamoira (AP);
19. 2009 Ervamoira (AP);
20. 2011 (AP).

jdaw1 wrote:Is it a good idea to have 1931 and 2011 in the same tasting? Do the very young Ports overwhelm those with some dignified age? Should we restrict ourselves to ≤2000, thereby excluding those from this century? I say yes.

PhilW wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:Is it a good idea to have 1931 and 2011 in the same tasting? Do the very young Ports overwhelm those with some dignified age? Should we restrict ourselves to ≤2000, thereby excluding those from this century? I say yes.

I would go further, and only include <94, or perhaps <=94 (i.e. not including under 21s with oldies).

uncle tom wrote:I can only add the '24 (650cL)

jdaw1 wrote:

uncle tom wrote:I can only add the '24 (650cL)

Tom has confirmed that he meant this size: at 8⅔ bottles, slightly bigger than an Imperial.

jdaw1 wrote:

uncle tom wrote:I can only add the '24 (650cL)

Tom has confirmed that he meant this size: at 8⅔ bottles, slightly bigger than an Imperial.

jdaw1 wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:

uncle tom wrote:I can only add the '24 (650cL)

Tom has confirmed that he meant this size: at 8⅔ bottles, slightly bigger than an Imperial.

Would this rather unbalance the tasting? There’s nothing wrong with each of us having to drink half a litre of a ninety year old port really, nothing wrong but would it fit with the workings of a vertical tasting?

Part of me says no. But not all of me.

mosesbotbol wrote:That sounds awesome. Ramos Pinto is the producer I'd like to do a vertical the most of.

AHB wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:

uncle tom wrote:I can only add the '24 (650cL)

Tom has confirmed that he meant this size: at 8⅔ bottles, slightly bigger than an Imperial.

Would this rather unbalance the tasting? There’s nothing wrong with each of us having to drink half a litre of a ninety year old port really, nothing wrong but would it fit with the workings of a vertical tasting?

Part of me says no. But not all of me.

I think it depends on the cost. While I would love to help to drink 6½ litres of 90 year old port it could significantly distort the costs of the tasting. Personally, I would rather spend the same amount of money but taste a smaller amount of the 1924 and more vintages.

Andy Velebil wrote:If the timing works I would fly over for this.

jdaw1 wrote:

uncle tom wrote:I can only add the '24 (650cL)

Tom has confirmed that he meant this size: at 8⅔ bottles, slightly bigger than an Imperial.

PhilW wrote:Just a double-check; when you confirmed with Tom, he didn't just mean to confirm the 650 (vs 750) as opposed to the cL (vs ml).

Axel P wrote:Jdaw, I know Joao quite well. Do you want me to link him onto the tasting?

mosesbotbol wrote:

Andy Velebil wrote:If the timing works I would fly over for this.

Same here, but I have little to offer for Ramos Pinto vintages outside of '85 and possibly '70. Not really interested in tasting anything under 25 years old.

jdaw1 wrote:the date has not yet been fixed, but Tuesday 21^st October 2014 is a possibility.

Axel P wrote:I have 64 as well

Axel P wrote:Sure, just had this last week with Joao Nicolau. But before these bottles were offered to me I have never seen those.

idj123 wrote:Julian, I believe there's still availability-can I be put down for this? Thanks.

DRT wrote:

jdaw1 wrote:the date has not yet been fixed, but Tuesday 21^st October 2014 is a possibility.

If on or around this date I will be unable to join you. Please don't move the date for me if it works for others.

jdaw1 wrote:• Booked for Tuesday 21^st October 2014

In an email to Ramos-Pinto ensubjected “Ramos Pinto vertical, Tue 21st Oct 2014: food?”, jdaw1 wrote:Hello again.

The tasting will be in our regular place, The Bung Hole. It helps TBH to know our food order in advance.

We tend to eat the varieties of steak and chips, but you might want different. It would help to be forewarned of the food order, about a week in advance. So as and when João and Ana are willing to look at the menu, please could I be told what they’ll be having.

I’ll resend this email, as a reminder, about a week before the tasting.

djewesbury wrote:Do you mind me saying

jdaw1 wrote:Flash: is the background pattern of the first page of the placemats too faint or too dark?