Thursday 9 March 2017, 80s Majors Matrix

Post by **flash_uk** » 13:29 Thu 19 Jun 2014

This post to hold plans as and when they are agreed.

Theme: 80, 83 and 85 vintages of Dow, Fonseca, Graham, Taylor and Warre

Date: 6.30pm, Thursday 9 March, 2017

Location: The Boot & Flogger 10-20 Redcross Way, SE1 1TA

People:

MPM - D83, D85 (delivered to B&F);
DaveRL - D80 (delivered to B&F);
CPR - G80, W85 (delivered to B&F);
JDAW;
IDJ - T80, F80 (delivered to B&F);
SCD - W83, T83 (delivered to B&F);
SCP - T85, G85 (delivered to B&F);
AHB - G83 (delivered to B&F);
TC - W80 (delivered to B&F);
JMR (guest of JDAW);
DRT - F85;
PW - F83 (delivered to B&F);
DG;
Place available.

Unavoidably detained:

CMAG;

Bottles:
G80: MPM, CPR
G83: AHB, CPR
G85: MPM, SCP, CPR, TC
D80: DRL
D83: MPM, TC
D85: MPM, DRL, TC
W80: DRL, CPR, TC
W83: SCD
W85: DRL, CPR, TC
F80: IDJ
F83: IDJ, TC, PW
F85: MPM, DRL, CPR, TC, DRT
T80: IDJ
T83: SCD, TC
T85: MPM, SCP, CPR

Update 16 Jan: Currently the proposed allocation above has AHB supplying one bottle, MPM, IDJ, SCP, SCD and DRL providing 2 bottles each, and CPR providing 3 bottles, with the F80 not yet available from anywhere.

Update 23 Jan: Currently the proposed allocation above has AHB and TC supplying one bottle, MPM, IDJ, SCP, SCD, CPR and DRL providing 2 bottles each, with the F80 not yet available from anywhere (although Ian is pursuing a possible source).

Update 24 Jan: Currently the proposed allocation above has AHB, PW, IDJ and TC supplying one bottle, MPM, SCP, SCD, CPR and DRL providing 2 bottles each, with the F80 not yet available from anywhere (although Ian is pursuing a possible source).

Update 27 Jan: Currently the proposed allocation above has AHB, PW, IDJ, DRT, DRL and TC supplying one bottle, MPM, SCP, SCD and CPR providing 2 bottles each, with the F80 not yet available from anywhere (although Ian is pursuing a possible source).

The food order.

Current draft of the placemats.

Post by **DRT** » 14:27 Thu 19 Jun 2014

Not me. Confusion caused by arranging this tasting in another thread.

Post by **flash_uk** » 14:55 Thu 19 Jun 2014

DRT wrote:Not me. Confusion caused by arranging this tasting in another thread.

Top post updated

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:05 Fri 20 Jun 2014

+jdaw1 please.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 08:53 Sat 21 Jun 2014

Put me down for this please-no F but a number of the others.

SCP · Post by **SCP** » 04:22 Fri 20 May 2016

Any plans to reinvigorate this? +1 if so! Have a few in storage and could draw down given notice.

Post by **flash_uk** » 12:00 Tue 10 Jan 2017

We don't seem to have many tastings in the calendar for early 2017, so I thought I'd test the appetite for getting the '80s Majors Matrix in the diary.

Anyone up for this on Thursday 9 March, at the Boot & Flogger? If you like the idea but not the date then please mention this.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 12:38 Tue 10 Jan 2017

Yes Mike, count me in-date works for me.

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 14:48 Tue 10 Jan 2017

Good work Mike. Would love to come, so please count me in. I have a Taylor's 83 or Warre's 83 I can bring.

SCP · Post by **SCP** » 19:23 Tue 10 Jan 2017

Definitely interested and date is possible, but will have to check near the time. I have G85 and T85.

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 07:58 Wed 11 Jan 2017

That works for me, thanks Mike

DaveRL · Post by **DaveRL** » 10:44 Wed 11 Jan 2017

Thanks, this works for me. I have F85, T85, G85, W80 and D80.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 13:26 Wed 11 Jan 2017

And I should have said that (amongst others) I have T80 and F83. So it looks as though we've pretty much got all covered

Post by **flash_uk** » 13:39 Wed 11 Jan 2017

Ian, Simon, Simon, Charles, Dave - many thanks for confirming. The planned 15 ports currently split between 7 of us assuming Julian confirms. Ideally we should get to 10 attendees as a minimum to avoid a challenging port per person ratio. Let's see who else is interested in the next couple of weeks.

Charles - could you flag which ports you have available.

DaveRL · Post by **DaveRL** » 18:31 Wed 11 Jan 2017

I have F85, T85, G85, W80 and D80 - I've been put down as having W85 and D85 which I haven't (well, I have the D85 but it is rubbish and wouldn't dream of bringing it) instead of G85 and T85.

Post by **jdaw1** » 23:08 Wed 11 Jan 2017

flash_uk wrote:assuming Julian confirms

Am I needed? Duty calls? I obey.

All my 1980s majors are at my father’s, which I am unlikely to visit before this event.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 12:37 Fri 13 Jan 2017

The date works for me (at the moment, at least).

I've got G83

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 14:17 Fri 13 Jan 2017

Yes please... count me in...

Post by **flash_uk** » 15:25 Fri 13 Jan 2017

AHB wrote:The date works for me (at the moment, at least).

I've got G83

Excellent, top post updated.

Post by **flash_uk** » 15:25 Fri 13 Jan 2017

forest26 wrote:Yes please... count me in...

You're in

Got any F80??

Post by **flash_uk** » 15:27 Fri 13 Jan 2017

CPR 1 wrote:That works for me, thanks Mike

Charles, could you flag which bottles you have available. Thx.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 16:06 Fri 13 Jan 2017

Christopher Gee has asked to be put on the list of attendees please.

Post by **flash_uk** » 16:14 Fri 13 Jan 2017

AHB wrote:Christopher Gee has asked to be put on the list of attendees please.

Done.

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 20:59 Fri 13 Jan 2017

Hi Mike,

I have G80,83,85, T85, F85, W80, 85

Post by **flash_uk** » 17:36 Mon 16 Jan 2017

CPR 1 wrote: ↑20:59 Fri 13 Jan 2017 Hi Mike,

I have G80,83,85, T85, F85, W80, 85

Thanks!

Post by **flash_uk** » 17:46 Mon 16 Jan 2017

OK in the top post I have provisionally allocated bottles for folks to bring (bold and italics initials). Some people have multiple bottles available - please drop me a PM if there are any issues with the bottles I've allocated to you, or if you can't spare multiple bottles. Given the uneven balance of provision, we'll balance the costs for this tasting. I've had a quick squint at the prices I have paid for various 80/83/85, which range from £31 to £42, so I propose that we just have a flat price of £38 per bottle for contributions made. Again please drop me a PM if this leaves anyone high and dry on costs!

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 13:46 Wed 18 Jan 2017

flash_uk wrote: ↑17:46 Mon 16 Jan 2017 OK in the top post I have provisionally allocated bottles for folks to bring (bold and italics initials). Some people have multiple bottles available - please drop me a PM if there are any issues with the bottles I've allocated to you, or if you can't spare multiple bottles. Given the uneven balance of provision, we'll balance the costs for this tasting. I've had a quick squint at the prices I have paid for various 80/83/85, which range from £31 to £42, so I propose that we just have a flat price of £38 per bottle for contributions made. Again please drop me a PM if this leaves anyone high and dry on costs!

This approach works for me.

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 08:50 Thu 19 Jan 2017

I'm quite weak on 1980 (no F80)
I have most/all 85 and 83.

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:03 Thu 19 Jan 2017

Please may I bring a wine-trade guest?

Post by **flash_uk** » 23:17 Thu 19 Jan 2017

jdaw1 wrote: ↑22:03 Thu 19 Jan 2017 Please may I bring a wine-trade guest?

No problem for me. Even better if they happened to have F80

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 16:26 Fri 20 Jan 2017

I note Tom has not yet responded to the thread. It is entirely possible that he won't be back in the UK by then. However, if he is he might have a bottle of Fonseca 1980 available.

Post by **flash_uk** » 18:37 Sat 21 Jan 2017

AHB wrote: ↑16:26 Fri 20 Jan 2017 I note Tom has not yet responded to the thread. It is entirely possible that he won't be back in the UK by then. However, if he is he might have a bottle of Fonseca 1980 available.

Thanks Alex. Ian has a plan afoot which might solve the gap. If that fails then we might need to call on Tom if he's around by then.

Post by **flash_uk** » 18:47 Sat 21 Jan 2017

We have several weeks until this tasting - could I ask those bringing bottles to try and get them to the B&F some time in advance. Not the end of the world if you can't, but always helps improve the prospects of a better showing if they can rest a while.

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:02 Sat 21 Jan 2017

In the first post are pictures of the current draft of the placemats.

This first draft has three pages, each of one vintage. An alternative would be 2½ A4 pages, each column being one shipper, so saving some table space. Or 15 could be squeezed on one A3, shrinking the radius to 118.978pt (from the six-on-A4 of 131.315pt). Preferences?

Edit: upon reflection, I think I prefer 2½ A4 pages, each two columns of three, one column per shipper, and so (seen as a whole) one row per vintage. Failing cogent disagreement, I’ll do that.

Post by **flash_uk** » 10:55 Sun 22 Jan 2017

I also marginally prefer the proposed arrangement of a column per shipper. Makes it easier to compare a shipper across vintages, as well as comparing shippers within a vintage.

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 14:55 Mon 23 Jan 2017

Hi Ian
I have D85, F85, F85M, G85, W85, D83, T83, F83, W80

Post by **flash_uk** » 15:16 Mon 23 Jan 2017

forest26 wrote: ↑14:55 Mon 23 Jan 2017 Hi Ian
I have D85, F85, F85M, G85, W85, D83, T83, F83, W80

Thanks Tony - just the regular F85 required if you could?

Charles - that takes you down to just the two bottles.

Top post updated with the latest bottle positions.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 18:37 Mon 23 Jan 2017

G83 dropped off at the B&F earlier today.

Post by **DRT** » 01:22 Tue 24 Jan 2017

Please may I join?

I only have F85, so buying in is probably the best solution.

Post by **PhilW** » 07:06 Tue 24 Jan 2017

I'm in. I could bring F83 (or more accurately, I can bring F83 if I have any left, otherwise IDJ can hopefully bring F83 for me since he has my other bottles of it).

Post by **flash_uk** » 08:20 Tue 24 Jan 2017

DRT wrote: ↑01:22 Tue 24 Jan 2017 Please may I join?

I only have F85, so buying in is probably the best solution.

Top post updated. Good to have you on board a Derek!

Post by **flash_uk** » 08:21 Tue 24 Jan 2017

PhilW wrote: ↑07:06 Tue 24 Jan 2017 I'm in. I could bring F83 (or more accurately, I can bring F83 if I have any left, otherwise IDJ can hopefully bring F83 for me since he has my other bottles of it).

F83 it is

Post by **flash_uk** » 08:23 Tue 24 Jan 2017

I have invited one more guest and have temporarily held a space. I'll release the space in a few days if the guest cannot confirm.

Post by **flash_uk** » 11:40 Tue 24 Jan 2017

AHB wrote: ↑18:37 Mon 23 Jan 2017 G83 dropped off at the B&F earlier today.

Thanks Alex.

Post by **DRT** » 15:58 Tue 24 Jan 2017

flash_uk wrote: ↑08:20 Tue 24 Jan 2017
DRT wrote: ↑01:22 Tue 24 Jan 2017 Please may I join?

I only have F85, so buying in is probably the best solution.
Top post updated. Good to have you on board a Derek!

Thanks, Mike

I see that Tony has lots of availability, some of which duplicate bottles that are being brought by people contributing two.

Is there a solution where Tony supplies a different bottle and I bring my F85?

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 20:57 Thu 26 Jan 2017

G80 left at B&F on Wednesday night

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 12:09 Fri 27 Jan 2017

flash_uk wrote: ↑18:47 Sat 21 Jan 2017 We have several weeks until this tasting - could I ask those bringing bottles to try and get them to the B&F some time in advance. Not the end of the world if you can't, but always helps improve the prospects of a better showing if they can rest a while.

Will drop my two bottles in next week

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 13:18 Fri 27 Jan 2017

PhilW wrote: ↑07:06 Tue 24 Jan 2017 I'm in. I could bring F83 (or more accurately, I can bring F83 if I have any left, otherwise IDJ can hopefully bring F83 for me since he has my other bottles of it).

Phil, this is no problem.

As Mike alluded to in earlier post, I have managed to secure a bottle of F80 from an unopened and well stored case. Will hopefully then bring the T80, F83 and T80 with me on Weds.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 13:26 Fri 27 Jan 2017

idj123 wrote: ↑13:18 Fri 27 Jan 2017
PhilW wrote: ↑07:06 Tue 24 Jan 2017 I'm in. I could bring F83 (or more accurately, I can bring F83 if I have any left, otherwise IDJ can hopefully bring F83 for me since he has my other bottles of it).
Phil, this is no problem.

As Mike alluded to in earlier post, I have managed to secure a bottle of F80 from an unopened and well stored case. Will hopefully then bring the T80, F83 and T80 with me on Weds.

I meant of course F80 (am not bringing two bottles of T80 especially since I only own one

)

Post by **PhilW** » 13:30 Fri 27 Jan 2017

idj123 wrote: ↑13:26 Fri 27 Jan 2017Phil, this is no problem. ... Will hopefully bring [F]80, F83 and T80 with me on Weds.

Thanks Ian.