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Live-blogging history
Posted: 11:37 Sat 28 Jun 2014
by jdaw1
Today the BBC has been
‘live-commenting’ the visit of the Archduke to Sarajevo a century after it happened. Is it only me to whom this seems utterly
faux? Big important event receiving live coverage! But the scale of the consequences of the assassination weren’t known at the time. Arguably, they weren’t known by the end of the following year. At the time it seemed like the start of Yet Another Minor Balkan War.
Is it only me to whom this fake live-blogging seems utterly
faux?
Re: Live-blogging history
Posted: 11:38 Sat 28 Jun 2014
by djewesbury
It is not only you.
Re: Live-blogging history
Posted: 11:42 Sat 28 Jun 2014
by djewesbury
Also the assassination was, arguably, a minor cause rather than a major one; it presented an opportunity which was already being actively sought by this stage. The powers were re-arming and preparing extensively for war. The 'single cause' approach reveals very little about the real reasons for the war.
Re: Live-blogging history
Posted: 11:54 Sat 28 Jun 2014
by DRT
+1
Re: Live-blogging history
Posted: 15:43 Sat 28 Jun 2014
by CaliforniaBrad
+2
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Re: Live-blogging history
Posted: 16:39 Sat 28 Jun 2014
by jdaw1
The live-blogging is meant to immerse the audience in the time. What did they then know? What did they then not know? And what they didn’t then know was that this would have such consequences.
Compare with the live-blogging not done by the BBC.
• 6th September 2001, the 100th anniversary of the assassination of President William McKinley.
• 2nd July 2006, the 125th anniversary of the assassination of President James A. Garfield.
• 9th October 2009, the 75th anniversary of the assassination of Alexander I of Yugoslavia of Yugoslavia (he of Tuesday fame).
• 12th May 2013, the 150th anniversary of the assassination of Radama II, King of Madagascar. Strangled with a silk sash.
Etc.
Why not? Because the BBC is half-hearted about the what-did-they-then-know game.
Re: Live-blogging history
Posted: 23:04 Sat 28 Jun 2014
by LGTrotter
Surely this is merely a device to get people considering the event and aftermath. Indeed it is 'faux' but this carries an implication that some version of history is 'echt'. Which it isn't.
If the success of such a ruse may be measured by getting unlikely people to talk about it then this thread probably represents a victory.
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Re: Live-blogging history
Posted: 23:22 Sat 28 Jun 2014
by DRT
LGTrotter wrote:Surely this is merely a device to get people considering the event and aftermath.
Undoubtedly true. But I dislike the genre of using current real journalists to act out news reports covering historic events as though they are live. The "acting" is generally appalling and entirely implausible. I watched a few minutes of such nonsense on the BBC news this morning and instantly decide to avoid watching, reading or listening to any more of what has been produced.
Re: Live-blogging history
Posted: 06:25 Sun 29 Jun 2014
by jdaw1
LGTrotter wrote:If the success of such a ruse may be measured by getting unlikely people to talk about it then this thread probably represents a victory.
I suspect they wanted us to talk about WW1, rather than the extent to which the BBC’s coverage is
faux.
Re: Live-blogging history
Posted: 09:14 Sun 29 Jun 2014
by LGTrotter
Ahem;
jdaw1 wrote:But the scale of the consequences of the assassination weren’t known at the time. Arguably, they weren’t known by the end of the following year. At the time it seemed like the start of Yet Another Minor Balkan War.
djewesbury wrote:Also the assassination was, arguably, a minor cause rather than a major one; it presented an opportunity which was already being actively sought by this stage. The powers were re-arming and preparing extensively for war. The 'single cause' approach reveals very little about the real reasons for the war.
Just saying
But you're right, this kind of stuff is uniquely painful to watch.
Re: Live-blogging history
Posted: 10:46 Sun 29 Jun 2014
by jdaw1
LGTrotter wrote:Ahem;
jdaw1 wrote:But the scale of the consequences of the assassination weren’t known at the time. Arguably, they weren’t known by the end of the following year. At the time it seemed like the start of Yet Another Minor Balkan War.
djewesbury wrote:Also the assassination was, arguably, a minor cause rather than a major one; it presented an opportunity which was already being actively sought by this stage. The powers were re-arming and preparing extensively for war. The 'single cause' approach reveals very little about the real reasons for the war.
Just saying
The assassination was, without doubt, the trigger. Was it, at a deeper level, the cause? For some definitions of the word, no; for others, yes; for yet others, maybe, a bit. Take your pick.
Re: Live-blogging history
Posted: 11:05 Sun 29 Jun 2014
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:LGTrotter wrote:If the success of such a ruse may be measured by getting unlikely people to talk about it then this thread probably represents a victory.
I suspect they wanted us to talk about WW1, rather than the extent to which the BBC’s coverage is
faux.
jdaw1 wrote:LGTrotter wrote:Ahem;
jdaw1 wrote:But the scale of the consequences of the assassination weren’t known at the time. Arguably, they weren’t known by the end of the following year. At the time it seemed like the start of Yet Another Minor Balkan War.
djewesbury wrote:Also the assassination was, arguably, a minor cause rather than a major one; it presented an opportunity which was already being actively sought by this stage. The powers were re-arming and preparing extensively for war. The 'single cause' approach reveals very little about the real reasons for the war.
Just saying
The assassination was, without doubt, the trigger. Was it, at a deeper level, the cause? For some definitions of the word, no; for others, yes; for yet others, maybe, a bit. Take your pick.
I think Owen's "Just saying" was pointing out that we are not only discussing the nature of the BBC coverage.