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ON ftlop someone posted the following http://www.fortheloveofport.com/ftlopfo ... =6&t=37787
Was shocked to see so muck port from a private seller. Anyone in the US wanna join forces on a group bid?


1991 Graham 7 full cases, 8 in partial case
1992 Fonseca 1 full case, 11 in partial case
1985 Fonseca 2 full cases, 5 in partial case
1977 Fonseca 2 full cases. 5 in partial case
1991 Fonseca Guimaraens 1 full case
1985 Graham 2 full cases, 1 full open, 9 in partial case
1977 Taylor 1 full open
1994 Vesuvio 4 full cases, 2 in partial case, 3 in partial case
1992 Vesuvio 1 full case, 5 in partial case
1991 Vesuvio 1 full case
1994 Dow 6 full cases
1994 Graham 4 full cases, 1 full open, 10 in patial case
1994 Fonseca 9 full cases, 1 full open
1994 Taylor 6 full cases, 5 in partial case
1990 Vesuvio 1 full case
1992 Graham Malvedos 2 in partial case
1991 Croft 1 full case
1991 Dow 3 full cases
1994 Martinez 1 full case
1983 Cockburn 2 full cases, 8 in partial case
1994 Croft 1 full case, 8 in partial case
1994 Warre 1 full case
1994 Quinta da Eira Velha 3 full cases
1995 Vesuvio 4 full cases
1995 Graham Malvedos 2 full cases
1996 Vesuvio 2 full cases
1997 Vesuvio 2 full cases
1998 Vesuvio 2 full cases, 5 in partial case
1995 Croft Quinta da Roeda 1 full case
1977 Dow 1 full case
1977 Smith-Woodhouse 1 full case open
1995 Fonseca Guimaraens 4 full cases, 10 in partial case
1995 Taylor Vargellas 4 full cases, 10 in partial case
1989 Vesuvio 2 full cases
1983 Ramos Pinto 1 full case
1995 Churchill Agua Alta 1 full case, 5 in partial case
1995 Smith-Woodhouse Madalena 3 full cases
1984 Smith-Woodhouse LBV 1 full case open
1997 Dow 1 full case
1998 Dow Quinta Senhora da Ribeira 5 in partial case
1996 Beringer 7 in partial case
1997 Fonseca 2 full cases
2000 Vesuvio 1 full case

That's his mother in law's collection? Wow!

30K cash and carry it's all yours.

Is it just me or does it look like liquidation stock from a merchant gone bust? Such a huge quantity of rather young port.

$47,000 and it's yours if you pick it up in Georgia. That's a little over $35.85 per bottle for 1311 bottles.

If I had 47k, the ability to pick it up, and offsite storage for ~2 pallets of wine I'd probably be interested.

Glenn E. wrote:If I had 47k, the ability to pick it up, and offsite storage for ~2 pallets of wine I'd probably be interested.

Really? Why? That's an awful lot to drink. (And if you're buying as investment probably more hassle and cost than profit.)

RonnieRoots wrote:

Glenn E. wrote:If I had 47k, the ability to pick it up, and offsite storage for ~2 pallets of wine I'd probably be interested.

Really? Why? That's an awful lot to drink. (And if you're buying as investment probably more hassle and cost than profit.)

Yes, but I'd probably never have to buy Port younger than 1980 again. And I could "share the wealth" with lots of friends over time.

Doesn't Tom have like 5 cellars of 5000 bottles each?

RonnieRoots wrote:

Glenn E. wrote:If I had 47k, the ability to pick it up, and offsite storage for ~2 pallets of wine I'd probably be interested.

Really? Why? That's an awful lot to drink. (And if you're buying as investment probably more hassle and cost than profit.)

If you drink a bottle of port a week (I drink more than that) 1311 bottles is about 25 years of drinking. For a reasonably well balanced cellar that has current drinking and plenty of port that will last 25 years I'd say this is a pretty good opportunity for someone who is looking to buy a ready-made drinking cellar.

AHB wrote:If you drink a bottle of port a week (I drink more than that) 1311 bottles is about 25 years of drinking. For a reasonably well balanced cellar that has current drinking and plenty of port that will last 25 years I'd say this is a pretty good opportunity for someone who is looking to buy a ready-made drinking cellar.

Yes quite, I suppose I could clap a bit more on the mortgage, move out of the ground floor and give it over to port.

AHB wrote:

RonnieRoots wrote:

Glenn E. wrote:If I had 47k, the ability to pick it up, and offsite storage for ~2 pallets of wine I'd probably be interested.

Really? Why? That's an awful lot to drink. (And if you're buying as investment probably more hassle and cost than profit.)

If you drink a bottle of port a week (I drink more than that) 1311 bottles is about 25 years of drinking. For a reasonably well balanced cellar that has current drinking and plenty of port that will last 25 years I'd say this is a pretty good opportunity for someone who is looking to buy a ready-made drinking cellar.

that's assuming you won't buy a single bottle of port in those 25 years, that's rather unrealistic, and above all sounds incredibly boring!

Also they're all small bottles.

RonnieRoots wrote:

AHB wrote:

RonnieRoots wrote:

Glenn E. wrote:If I had 47k, the ability to pick it up, and offsite storage for ~2 pallets of wine I'd probably be interested.

Really? Why? That's an awful lot to drink. (And if you're buying as investment probably more hassle and cost than profit.)

If you drink a bottle of port a week (I drink more than that) 1311 bottles is about 25 years of drinking. For a reasonably well balanced cellar that has current drinking and plenty of port that will last 25 years I'd say this is a pretty good opportunity for someone who is looking to buy a ready-made drinking cellar.

that's assuming you won't buy a single bottle of port in those 25 years, that's rather unrealistic, and above all sounds incredibly boring!

But that's not too different from the position I am in. I have enough bottles to keep me going for 25 years. I plan to be drinking for more than 25 years so will need to buy more but have the core of a good cellar around which I can add addis all bottles to give me more variety. At $35 per bottle, this represents excellent value - at least it does if you have $47k available. Say if an elderly relative died and left you a legacy. Buying this piecemeal would likely cost twice that amount.

AHB wrote:At $35 per bottle, this represents excellent value - at least it does if you have $47k available. Say if an elderly relative died and left you a legacy. Buying this piecemeal would likely cost twice that amount.

Which is what makes it appealing, if you have $47k available. You could probably turn it around piecemeal and make a tidy profit over the space of a year if you really wanted to. But as the saying goes, it takes money to make money.

Glenn E. wrote:

AHB wrote:At $35 per bottle, this represents excellent value - at least it does if you have $47k available. Say if an elderly relative died and left you a legacy. Buying this piecemeal would likely cost twice that amount.

Which is what makes it appealing, if you have $47k available. You could probably turn it around piecemeal and make a tidy profit over the space of a year if you really wanted to. But as the saying goes, it takes money to make money.

If these bottles were in the UK, I'd be having a serious think about doing just that. £30k for 1311 bottles or roughly 110 cases of 12, scattered across roughly 40 different ports. Keep 1 case of everything and put the rest to auction = about 70 cases, and you might well get your 40 cases of different ports for nothing, or some small cost, or maybe some small profit!