NV Chancellor 10YO Tawny

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NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by morteno » 20:37 Sat 21 Feb 2009

My local supermarket had this one on sale in December (for what used to be £8, at that time probably £12). Anyhow, it's one of the cheapest 10 year old tawnies I've seen (Kopke being among them). Price is important here as it isn't that interesting.

Some of my friends really enjoyed what was left of it on Super Bowl Sunday. One month of airing hadn't harmed it. It's sweet, caramel-like, slightly nutty, and has a nice brown colour. And that's that. I might buy it again just to have something to drink when friends are visiting but I thought it was a bit boring. Alright, but a bit bland. I should have bought 2-3 as it would've been nice to have a couple in backup for that price and to serve for frinds who don't really dig port.

I'm sure it won't win a large audience among you TPF'ers.

As a side note: I saw today that the very same Supermarket had Chancellor's (2003?) VP too, farily priced too. I wonder in which other countries you can find the brand. As I wasn't that impressed with the 10 year old, I didn't buy the VP.

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Re: NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by JacobH » 21:05 Sat 21 Feb 2009

I haven’t come across Chancellor before. Do you still have the bottle? It would be interesting to see whether ‟Chancellor” is just the name and it is produced by someone else. (Somewhat worryingly the only references I can find on the internet point to it being an American ‟port”: http://www.nashobawinery.com/wines/chancellor.html :shock: )
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Re: NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by RonnieRoots » 05:49 Sun 22 Feb 2009

Morteno, have a look on the bottle and see who produces this. It might actually be a good buy.

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Re: NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by morteno » 10:07 Sun 22 Feb 2009

Unfurtunately, I don't keep drunk bottles. I'll have to look at a bottle the next time I see it in the supermarket. I can say that the label was very non-port like. Just a front label (IIRC) that was short and wide and with a "posh" font and design. If it has to look like that, I prefer the Otima design by far.

Googling "chancellor" produces very few, if any, usable results. I was worried about the American reference too :shock:. But I must say that if it is indeed an American port, then it's pretty far in taste from the few other American ports I've tried -- positively meant.

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Post by JacobH » 11:18 Sun 22 Feb 2009

morteno wrote:Googling "chancellor" produces very few, if any, usable results. I was worried about the American reference too :shock:. But I must say that if it is indeed an American port, then it's pretty far in taste from the few other American ports I've tried -- positively meant.
As you bought it inside the EU, I suppose it's unlikely that it is an American bottle because of the protected status of the word "port", but I suppose the key question is whether it had a selo or not?
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Re: NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by morteno » 15:37 Fri 06 Mar 2009

This is indeed the real deal. Chancellor is produced by Pocas, which is carried by on of the large supermarkets (Irma) in Denmark, but not the same as the supermarket that sells Pocas (Super Brugsen). This must be a marketing trick of some sort as Coop Danmark owns both Irma and Super Brugsen.

It's all the same. I've had bland Port only from both brands. Cheap and bland seems to be their recipe.

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Re: NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by RonnieRoots » 08:48 Sat 07 Mar 2009

But Pocas' Vintage Port is actually quite good! Especially in recent years. Their 2000 and 2003 were lovely.
Chancellor is quite likely a different blend so may not be of the same quality.

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Re: NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by morteno » 18:44 Mon 09 Mar 2009

Alright, haven't tried their VP's so I better give one a go.

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Re: NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by jdaw1 » 21:49 Sun 22 Mar 2009

How should this appear in the TN index? Under Poças?

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Re: NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by AHB » 21:54 Sun 22 Mar 2009

My suggestion would be that it should be shown under Pocas - but don't lose the link to Chancellor so that we can also search the TN database for Chancellor and then discover that this is made by Pocas. I see a similarity with Dalva's use of Presidential as a marketing brand in the US.
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Re: NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by jdaw1 » 22:11 Sun 22 Mar 2009

Please confirm that you want to rename Poças to something like ‟Poças, aka Chancellor”.

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Re: NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by AHB » 22:50 Sun 22 Mar 2009

I would suggest "Pocas {with cidilla added}, including brand name of Chancellor"

We should do something similar for Dalva / Da Silva / Presedential.
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Re: NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by DRT » 10:27 Mon 23 Mar 2009

jdaw1 wrote:How should this appear in the TN index? Under Poças?
I would suggest: "NV Poças Chancellor 10 year old tawny"
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Re: NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by jdaw1 » 13:48 Mon 23 Mar 2009

So a different house to plain Poças? Not merged with it?

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Re: NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by DRT » 14:59 Mon 23 Mar 2009

jdaw1 wrote:So a different house to plain Poças? Not merged with it?
No. Listed as a separate wine along with the other Poças styles/brands. Like this...
Poças vintage port Poças LBV Poças tawny
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Re: NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by jdaw1 » 15:16 Mon 23 Mar 2009

So you want ‟Chancellor” to be part of the age designation?! (And it isn’t a style either: ‟vintage port”, ‟LBV”, and ‟tawny” are all terms applicable to many other houses. ‟Chancellor” is not.)

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Re: NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by DRT » 15:18 Mon 23 Mar 2009

jdaw1 wrote:So you want ‟Chancellor” to be part of the age designation?! (And it isn’t a style either: ‟vintage port”, ‟LBV”, and ‟tawny” are all terms applicable to many other houses. ‟Chancellor” is not.)
I now see your problem. Will contemplate and return with another suggestion.
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Re: NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by DRT » 15:25 Mon 23 Mar 2009

Take a look at what you have done with Croft Distinction and Croft Platinum and then do the same with this?
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Re: NV Chancellor 10 year old tawny

Post by jdaw1 » 15:32 Mon 23 Mar 2009

Different house name. OK happy with that.

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