1983 Real Vinicola

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1983 Real Vinicola

Post by DRT » 20:53 Sun 18 Dec 2011

1983 Real Vinicola (Royal Oporto) VP
When I purchased 9 bottles of this a few months ago some people here asked "why?". I don't think I had a satisfactory answer other than "at £13 per bottle, how bad can they be?"

This evening we will discover the answer to that second question. The pungent smell of stewed fruit that I detected whilst decanting doesn't fill me with enthusiasm for what is to come later...
"The first duty of Port is to be red"

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Re: 1983 Real Vinicola (Royal Oporto) VP

Post by DRT » 21:42 Sun 18 Dec 2011

D+1hr
Colour is consistent with a port of this age. Sweet red fruits on the nose - perhaps over-ripe strawberry. Medium weight, very sweet entry. Flabby, with lots of minty heat in the finish, which is thin but quite long. Strange stuff.
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Re: 1983 Real Vinicola (Royal Oporto) VP

Post by jdaw1 » 22:32 Sun 18 Dec 2011

☺? ☹? ☹☹?

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Post by DRT » 22:40 Sun 18 Dec 2011

jdaw1 wrote:☺? ☹? ☹☹?
☹☹☹☹
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Post by jdaw1 » 22:48 Sun 18 Dec 2011

¿ ☹☹☹☹ < £13 ?

¿ ☹☹☹☹ < £10 ?

¿ ☹☹☹☹ ≈ £? ?

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Re: 1983 Real Vinicola (Royal Oporto) VP

Post by DRT » 22:51 Sun 18 Dec 2011

jdaw1 wrote:¿ ☹☹☹☹ < £13 ?
On FTLOP, Stevie Kooij commenting on the RV1995 wrote:Ruby red, with a brown touch. Smelly. Very sweet and artificial. Some raisiny fruit. Finish as very bad, the consensus was that this tasted like vomit. We all identified this as the Real Vinicola. Avoid like SARS.
This 1983 fits the profile of the house very well. £13 x 9 is a lot of money to spend on vomit.
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Post by jdaw1 » 22:54 Sun 18 Dec 2011

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Post by DRT » 22:58 Sun 18 Dec 2011

The bad news for those who attend blind tastings with me is that I have eight bottles left :roll:
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Post by jdaw1 » 23:23 Sun 18 Dec 2011

Spaghetti Bolognese?

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Post by DRT » 23:26 Sun 18 Dec 2011

Very likely.

I will try this again tomorrow. I'm not hopeful.
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Re: 1983 Real Vinicola (Royal Oporto) VP

Post by DRT » 19:32 Mon 19 Dec 2011

D+24hrs

Pungent, stewed nose. Fuller in the mouth and a better texture than yesterday. Very sweet candy flavours. Has lost the heat in the finish and is now more drinkable than it was, but in no way pleasant. I am about to eat a Chinese meal. Perhaps it will taste better after that.
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Post by jdaw1 » 20:00 Mon 19 Dec 2011

Just to help you feel that progress is being made, print this post and cross off the bottles as you finish them: ⑨ ⑧ ⑦ ⑥ ⑤ ④ ③ ② ①

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Re: 1983 Real Vinicola (Royal Oporto) VP

Post by Glenn E. » 00:58 Tue 20 Dec 2011

DRT wrote:I am about to eat a Chinese meal. Perhaps it will taste better after that.
Close, but not quite. I believe the Asian cuisine you're looking for is Korean. Specifically, kimchi. There's nothing quite like rotting cabbage to make a bad Port taste better! :lol:
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Post by jdaw1 » 08:38 Tue 20 Dec 2011

DRT wrote:The bad news for those who attend blind tastings with me is that I have eight bottles left :roll:
Please bring a ‘backup’ bottle as well.

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Re: 1983 Real Vinicola (Royal Oporto) VP

Post by AHB » 10:56 Tue 20 Dec 2011

jdaw1 wrote:
DRT wrote:The bad news for those who attend blind tastings with me is that I have eight bottles left :roll:
Please bring a ‘backup’ bottle as well.
Please ensure the backup bottle is not another bottle of RV83
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Re: 1983 Real Vinicola (Royal Oporto) VP

Post by DRT » 18:43 Tue 20 Dec 2011

AHB wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
DRT wrote:The bad news for those who attend blind tastings with me is that I have eight bottles left :roll:
Please bring a ‘backup’ bottle as well.
Please ensure the backup bottle is not another bottle of RV83
Don't you just hate it when a loophole closes in front of your eyes :(
"The first duty of Port is to be red"

Ernest H. Cockburn

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