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The BBC, in an article entitled [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-25940865]Lancashire Fusiliers Gallipoli Victoria Cross sought by museum[/url], wrote:"Our mission is to find it so it can take its place alongside the other VC's in the exhibition."

Lord Ashcroft, who has loaned three VCs to the museum for the exhibition, said the "'Six before Breakfast' comprise one of the most celebrated batches of gallantry medals from any action of the entire Great War".

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[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=71801#p71801]Here[/url] PhilW wrote:we will invite one industry guest, who's costs will be covered by the attendees.

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jdaw1 wrote:
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=71801#p71801]Here[/url] PhilW wrote:we will invite one industry guest, who's costs will be covered by the attendees.
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PhilW wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=71801#p71801]Here[/url] PhilW wrote:we will invite one industry guest, who's costs will be covered by the attendees.
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Aren't you English? I think this year you'll have to make do with just sackcloth.
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Glenn E. wrote:
PhilW wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=71801#p71801]Here[/url] PhilW wrote:we will invite one industry guest, who's costs will be covered by the attendees.
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Aren't you English? I think this year you'll have to make do with just sackcloth.
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Post by jdaw1 » 12:46 Thu 13 Feb 2014

There will be three numbers, and I am instructing somebody to take the average of the better two of them. Or should that be the best two of them?

So if the numbers are 10, 11 and 12, the result should be Average(11, 12) = 11½.

Better two of three, or best two of three?

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Post by djewesbury » 14:23 Thu 13 Feb 2014

jdaw1 wrote:There will be three numbers, and I am instructing somebody to take the average of the better two of them. Or should that be the best two of them?

So if the numbers are 10, 11 and 12, the result should be Average(11, 12) = 11½.

Better two of three, or best two of three?
Why is higher better? Same problem, different word. Just wondering.
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Post by jdaw1 » 15:30 Thu 13 Feb 2014

djewesbury wrote:Why is higher better?
I should have said that the context makes very obvious that higher = better.

But the same question could be asked of ‟higher two of three” versus ‟highest two of three”.

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Post by PhilW » 15:41 Thu 13 Feb 2014

jdaw1 wrote:There will be three numbers, and I am instructing somebody to take the average of the better two of them. Or should that be the best two of them?

So if the numbers are 10, 11 and 12, the result should be Average(11, 12) = 11½.

Better two of three, or best two of three?
Best two of three. Two of them may be better than the other, but you have select the best two (i.e. better is always a comparative between at least two elements or groups, while best is a single element or group based on a criteria).

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Post by djewesbury » 15:44 Thu 13 Feb 2014

jdaw1 wrote:But the same question could be asked of ‟higher two of three” versus ‟highest two of three”.
hence
djewesbury wrote:Same problem, different word.
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Post by Glenn E. » 17:44 Thu 13 Feb 2014

PhilW wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:There will be three numbers, and I am instructing somebody to take the average of the better two of them. Or should that be the best two of them?

So if the numbers are 10, 11 and 12, the result should be Average(11, 12) = 11½.

Better two of three, or best two of three?
Best two of three. Two of them may be better than the other, but you have select the best two (i.e. better is always a comparative between at least two elements or groups, while best is a single element or group based on a criteria).
My choice as well. Possibly even "best two of the three."
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Post by djewesbury » 21:36 Thu 13 Feb 2014

Glenn E. wrote:
PhilW wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:There will be three numbers, and I am instructing somebody to take the average of the better two of them. Or should that be the best two of them?

So if the numbers are 10, 11 and 12, the result should be Average(11, 12) = 11½.

Better two of three, or best two of three?
Best two of three. Two of them may be better than the other, but you have select the best two (i.e. better is always a comparative between at least two elements or groups, while best is a single element or group based on a criteria).
My choice as well. Possibly even "best two of the three."
I also agree with this. I think the choice is made clearer if you increase the number of the pool from 3 and see what you would do in those circumstances.
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Post by jdaw1 » 21:55 Thu 13 Feb 2014

Which agrees with my (formerly tentative) preference. Thank you.

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Post by djewesbury » 18:31 Sun 16 Feb 2014

ImageHow much would a completely fresh lobster salad be?
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Post by PhilW » 19:20 Sun 16 Feb 2014

djewesbury wrote:ImageHow much would a completely fresh lobster salad be?
You could also ask them how many salads you get with each lobster portion, too.

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You neglected to mention the fig problem. Was that deliberate?
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Post by djewesbury » 22:47 Mon 17 Feb 2014

DRT wrote:You neglected to mention the fig problem. Was that deliberate?
The fig problem was a given. It was the fig problem that allowed all the other peculiarities to come into our purview.
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Re: Apostrophe crimes

Post by DRT » 02:32 Tue 18 Feb 2014

djewesbury wrote:
DRT wrote:You neglected to mention the fig problem. Was that deliberate?
The fig problem was a given. It was the fig problem that allowed all the other peculiarities to come into our purview.
I get that, but Al Capone was convicted of tax evasion, not mass murder, smuggling and extortion. It is important to include the lesser crimes in the charge just in case :wink:
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Post by jdaw1 » 22:09 Tue 11 Mar 2014

Of course that should have been, even if typed using a phone, “an Amicus Curia”.

Hopefully, in the spirit of banks’ self-reporting of benchmark crimes, my self-reporting will result in a milder punishment.

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Post by djewesbury » 01:20 Wed 12 Mar 2014

jdaw1 wrote:
Of course that should have been, even if typed using a phone, “an Amicus Curia”.

Hopefully, in the spirit of banks’ self-reporting of benchmark crimes, my self-reporting will result in a milder punishment.
I thought Amicus Curiae?
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Post by jdaw1 » 09:25 Wed 12 Mar 2014

djewesbury wrote:I thought Amicus Curiae?
Wikipedia agrees that further penance is required. For reasons of stupidity and English word order, I was attempting to singularise the adjective. Doh. Sackcloth and ashes.

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Post by jdaw1 » 15:49 Mon 17 Mar 2014

Messrs Christie and Manson, in their splendid catalogue of the “Interesting and Valuable Collection of Antiquities … The Property of The Commandant Barbetti” to be auctioned on 1 June 1857, wrote:
Scarabs, Mounted in Gold and Silver.
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Post by djewesbury » 11:54 Sun 06 Apr 2014

This is a curious one. In Dorothy L. Sayers's The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club (the one, you will remember, with a rather nice description of the Cockburn 1886), the plural of a family name is always printed with an apostrophe, viz:
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Now this is done with such consistency that it can't be a typo every time. Sayers was also quite the grammarian so not given to casual solecisms. Is this some sort of strange slang possessive, as in "I've just been to the family of The Rushworth"? Rather like clan chieftains might be referred to as, for instance, The O'Rahilly, or The Turnbull?
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