Second wind for 1963s? Tuesday 10 April 2018

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I am afraid that if the NN is included then KMH and I will have to withdraw on the grounds of cost....sorry . :(
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I'm also happy with the NN inclusion either way.
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Cookie wrote: 12:42 Mon 26 Feb 2018 I am afraid that if the NN is included then KMH and I will have to withdraw on the grounds of cost....sorry . :(
Then I’d like to change my vote and now also vote against the inclusion of the NN. I don’t want anyone to be excluded from a tasting on the grounds of cost. There will be other times when we can drink NN63.
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AHB wrote: 23:30 Thu 01 Mar 2018
Cookie wrote: 12:42 Mon 26 Feb 2018 I am afraid that if the NN is included then KMH and I will have to withdraw on the grounds of cost....sorry . :(
Then I’d like to change my vote and now also vote against the inclusion of the NN. I don’t want anyone to be excluded from a tasting on the grounds of cost. There will be other times when we can drink NN63.
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jdaw1 wrote: 20:54 Sun 25 Feb 2018 NN summary:
• Keen: IDJ, PW, THRA, MPM, CPR.
• Will play: JDAW, SCD, AHB.
• Against: so far, none.
I am in the "Will play" camp, but the preceding posts by Cookie and AHB make me think this is not the time to include the NN63.
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AHB wrote: 23:30 Thu 01 Mar 2018
Cookie wrote: 12:42 Mon 26 Feb 2018 I am afraid that if the NN is included then KMH and I will have to withdraw on the grounds of cost....sorry . :(
Then I’d like to change my vote and now also vote against the inclusion of the NN. I don’t want anyone to be excluded from a tasting on the grounds of cost. There will be other times when we can drink NN63.
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I would like KMH and Cookie to join us. Another time for the NN.
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jdaw1 wrote: 20:54 Sun 25 Feb 2018 NN summary:
• Keen: IDJ, PW, THRA, MPM, CPR.
• Will play: JDAW, SCD.
• Against: RLC, KMH, AHB, DRT, DRL.
Now updated.
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DaveRL wrote: 09:54 Fri 02 Mar 2018 Another time for the NN.
I Agree
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Having said I need to adopt, I think I have some OBV 63.
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CPR 1 wrote: 11:05 Fri 02 Mar 2018
DaveRL wrote: 09:54 Fri 02 Mar 2018 Another time for the NN.
I Agree
Me too, Port should be inclusive and this suggestion was mooted after the start of the thread. That being said, can't help feeling a pang of disappointment. We need to keep this 'another time' alive!
DaveRL wrote: 13:05 Fri 02 Mar 2018 Having said I need to adopt, I think I have some OBV 63.
Already vouched :D
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idj123 wrote: 13:28 Fri 02 Mar 2018

Already vouched :D
Ah, yes. Back to plan A then. :roll:
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Would the group prefer me to bring Niepoort or Ramos Pinto. Alex would have the casting vote for being born in this year if needed.
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Axel P wrote: 10:37 Sun 04 Mar 2018Would the group prefer me to bring Niepoort or Ramos Pinto. Alex would have the casting vote for being born in this year if needed.
I slightly favour the Niepoort, but would happily give way to a passionate opinion.
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+1 for Axel on the waiting list, Wolfgang Giehrl
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jdaw1 wrote:
Axel P wrote: 10:37 Sun 04 Mar 2018Would the group prefer me to bring Niepoort or Ramos Pinto. Alex would have the casting vote for being born in this year if needed.
I slightly favour the Niepoort, but would happily give way to a passionate opinion.
Strong agreement.
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Kate and I would like to thank you all for your consideration regarding the NN’63...I share Ian’s disappointment but as you appreciate with Kate’s adoption plus travel plus food and then the NN x2 contribution it would make this tasting beyond justification...especially as New Zealand is sooo expensive!...and no Port to drink!
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Based on what I (think I) know, assignments of who-bringing-what could be as follows.

Cá: IDJ
Ck: WPS
Cn: DRT from THRA
Cr: MPM
D: SCD from AHB
F: PW
G: CPR
Mk: AHB
Mz: KMH from AHB
Ni: AP
N: THRA
O: IDJ (thank you for bringing two)
S: RLC
T: JDAW
W: DRL from CPR

Is that OK? Dissent or disagreement?

Draft of the placemats added to first post.
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OK with me.
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Fine by us...thank you.
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Good for me. Thanks.
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Yes, although it's CaF I am additionally providing as opposed to Ca.
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idj123 wrote: 13:13 Wed 07 Mar 2018Yes, although it's CaF I am additionally providing as opposed to Ca.
CáF most welcome, thank you sir.
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jdaw1 wrote: 20:52 Wed 07 Mar 2018
idj123 wrote: 13:13 Wed 07 Mar 2018Yes, although it's CaF I am additionally providing as opposed to Ca.
CáF most welcome, thank you sir.
Indeed. But doesn't that mean we have an obvious gap? 🙄
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DRT wrote: 22:00 Wed 07 Mar 2018Indeed. But doesn't that mean we have an obvious gap? 🙄
There are many gaps. People are encouraged to do what they can.
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jdaw1 wrote: 22:47 Wed 07 Mar 2018There are many gaps. People are encouraged to do what they can.
As a reminder, and an encouragement for us to do better, a ’63 event in Oct 2013 included Sz, QH, GC, Ck, G, Kr, , Mg, Avery, F, RV, Rs, S, Dl, Cn, Sb, RVi, RCV, Adams, RO, Dolamore, BBR, T, Cr, Ni, Mk, Fd, O, Mz, MsC, W, D, N, NN, A, Bg, Df, SJ, GB, , CáF, B, Fr.
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Axel P wrote: 10:37 Sun 04 Mar 2018 Would the group prefer me to bring Niepoort or Ramos Pinto. Alex would have the casting vote for being born in this year if needed.
Ramos Pinto please, and thank you for the casting vote. I have drunk the Niepoort 1963 (and it is very nice) but never tasted the RP 63
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AHB wrote: 17:16 Tue 13 Mar 2018Ramos Pinto please, and thank you for the casting vote. I have drunk the Niepoort 1963 (and it is very nice) but never tasted the RP 63
I want to change my vote to the Ramos Pinto.
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Happy with it
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Let’s be efficient: food orders please, from the B&F’s main menu.

For JDAW:
• Cornish crab salad with ciabatta toasts
• Steak, 28-day, blue, with skinny fries.
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For PW please:
• Starter: Welsh rarebit
• Main: Rib-eye steak (240g, 28-day), black & blue, + béarnaise sauce, +green beans.

(is that the 28-day-old Spiced aubergine steak you're going for there Julian? :twisted: )
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PhilW wrote:(is that the 28-day-old Spiced aubergine steak you're going for there Julian? :twisted: )
No. When home I will check and if necessary amend.

Aubergine: yuck.
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For food please;

Mac and Cheese
Rib Eye steak black and blue, chips and a side of green beans
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jdaw1 wrote: 15:00 Mon 19 Mar 2018
PhilW wrote:(is that the 28-day-old Spiced aubergine steak you're going for there Julian? :twisted: )
No. When home I will check and if necessary amend.
As I thought, or at least hoped, the rib-eye is 28-day. The non-steak is nothing to do with me.
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For me please:

Starter: Oak smoked salmon with beetroot, orange and horseradish
Main: Rib eye steak (240g aged for 28 days) rare with skinny fries
Side: Green beans with shallots

Gluten free please
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Which bottles will be pre-delivered? Please could it be most of them.

Please could I have help decanting?
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With great regret I have to withdraw from this tasting. I have an event that evening and think it impossible I could be there before 9pm so I need to do the sensible thing and withdraw from what I am sure will be one of the greatest tastings. Very disappointed but I am sure a replacement will be found, and I hope the port is as lovely as I imagine!
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For me please:
Cornish crab salad with ciabatta toasts
Rare Rib eye steak (240g aged for 28 days) with hand cut chips
Green beans with shallots

I’ll drop my bottle off in advance. Unfortunately on this occasion I can’t help with decanting as I only land at LCY around 6.20pm so wasn’t get to the B&F until about 7.30.
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Doggett wrote: 08:15 Wed 21 Mar 2018With great regret I have to withdraw from this tasting. I have an event that evening and think it impossible I could be there before 9pm so I need to do the sensible thing and withdraw from what I am sure will be one of the greatest tastings. Very disappointed but I am sure a replacement will be found, and I hope the port is as lovely as I imagine!
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jdaw1 wrote: 13:38 Tue 20 Mar 2018Which bottles will be pre-delivered? Please could it be most of them.

Please could I have help decanting?
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I will contact Wolfgang and let you know asap.
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Wolfgang is on board.

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Axel P wrote:Wolfgang is on board.
Splendid. Bringing what?

I'm struggling to get people to post about what will be pre-delivered. So, instead, please could everybody bring their bottle predecanted, and we'll do last moment pre-pouring.


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jdaw1 wrote: 18:29 Sat 24 Mar 2018I'm struggling to get people to post about what will be pre-delivered. So, instead, please could everybody bring their bottle predecanted, and we'll do last moment pre-pouring.
You posted the change of instructions just in time. I was planning to drop off tomorrow and Tuesday. I might still do so as I would otherwise have to bring 3 bottles with me.
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Update:

Cá: IDJ
Ck: WPS
Cn: DRT from THRA
Cr: MPM
D: KMH from AHB
F: PW
G: CPR
Mk: AHB
Ni: AP
N: THRA
O: IDJ (thank you for bringing two)
RP: WG from AP
S: RLC
T: JDAW
W: DRL from CPR

Is that OK? Dissent or disagreement?


AHB wrote: 09:27 Sun 25 Mar 2018I was planning to drop off tomorrow and Tuesday. I might still do so as I would otherwise have to bring 3 bottles with me.
Consistent with above, I believe you should be bringing Dow and Mackenzie.
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I confirm I'll bring Dow and Mackenzie. I'll drop them off at the B&F tomorrow night and allow them to settle for a couple of weeks.

Nearer the time I can ask the B&F staff to pull the corks and to decant. If I can, I'll ask for these two bottles to get the Audouze treatment to make Wolfgang happy.
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I plan to drop Warre and Graham off tomorrow at B&F. Unfortunately I can't offer to help much but can be there by 17.30 if that helps with setting up. If needed I will ask B&F to decant post lunch.
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Am not currently expecting to be in London prior to the 10th, so will bring the Fonseca pre-decanted on the day.
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So far Iʼm decanting seven: Mk; D; G; W; T; Ni; RP.

Please could those bringing pre-decanted bottles arrive by 17:45, to allow time for pre-pouring.

Axel: please confirm that Wolfgang G is adopting your Niepoort.

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If the appropriate opportunity arises then I will drop off my bottles at the B&F but like Phil, I'm not currently due in London before this tasting and therefore they will likely arrive pre-decanted.

Foodwise, Truffle mac and cheese followed by Steak (medium-rare) with skinny chrips and green beans.

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I'll drop the Croft off on Monday the 9th and ask the B&F to decant Tuesday just before lunch.
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