I have checked Erskine May back to 27 December 1703 and can see no precedent that would cause the chair to rule to the contrary.
10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Thank you all for re-confirming now that the date has been set.
Could others please do the same?
Tony has now replaced Jasper on the attendee list.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Yippee - I'm in!
All the easier ones have gone.... I'll see if I can find something.
All the easier ones have gone.... I'll see if I can find something.
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
September 2008, or January 2008? Assuming the latter.DRT wrote: ↑19:10 Mon 18 Mar 2019May I request September 2008, please?jdaw1 wrote: ↑12:05 Sun 17 Mar 2019Placemat style? Like that of the 1966 tasting of June 2013, or April 2014, or February 2016?
I vote ’14, then ’13, then ’16.
The placemats of 28th January 2008 are bad: ugliness is always bad; there is redundancy between the Titles and the parameters since renamed to Overtitles; and the suit symbols should have been done with FlightSeparations. Just no.
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Perhaps you could use the 2008 placemats as a frame of reference but utilise the improvements made since to create a modern alternative version that evokes memories of days gone by?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Could someone with access to The Book please post a list of Tony's options?

"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
If Tony could rustle up a Niepoort that would be splendid...

Other options: Calem, Delaforce, Ferriera, Kopke, Mackenzie, Morgan, Quarles Harris, Ramos Pinto, Rebello Valente, Smith Woodhouse, Tuke Holdsworth.
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Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Thank you very much - I fervently hope so, but I am overseas more than half the year and that makes it difficult to attend most tastings, but I look forward to making it one day !DRT wrote: ↑19:04 Mon 18 Mar 2019That is a great pity. Unfortunately, with this many people and so few practical dates to choose from it was somewhat inevitable that one or more would have two drop out. We hope to see you at another event soon.Jasper May wrote: ↑12:41 Sun 17 Mar 2019 Very sad, I will not be able to make it![]()
I shall be at at trade fair in Asia.

Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Confirming I’ll be there D.G. And confirming I’ll be accompanied by a bottle of Sandeman’s.
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Yes I’ll be there but not sure what I will be bringing with me yet!
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
That is a wonderful idea!

"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
I'm not sure who D.G. is but it will be great to see you and the Sandeman. Thankfully this will still be pre-Brexit so you shouldn't have to wait too long at the border

"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Excellent.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
I and my T66 are reconfirmed.
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
I confirm that the date will work for me...
Thanks
Thanks
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Thank you. Can you please let us know which 1966 you plan to bring along?
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Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Could I go on as Reserve please?
If I do get in, I've got a Smith Woodhouse 66.
Thanks
NAC
If I do get in, I've got a Smith Woodhouse 66.
Thanks
NAC
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
I have a recent release of g66 from SFE which is one of 300 bottles released In 2016 - I realize it might double up but I need a special occasion to open it.
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
That would be most welcome. It will be interesting to compare it with the one I am bringing as the recent release will probably have been re-corked.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
As MrFrodo has not posted since Sep 2018 and has not responded to my PM request to confirm attendance he is unfortunately relegated to the reserve list.
nac and his SW66 is now promoted to the attendee list
nac and his SW66 is now promoted to the attendee list

"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Please note that as a result of the above the Dow is no longer in the line-up. If anyone who has not yet chosen a bottle can supply one that would be great.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Would something like jdawiseman.com/2019/20190910_1966s.pdf be acceptable?
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Perfect. Thank you.jdaw1 wrote: ↑22:25 Fri 26 Jul 2019Would something like jdawiseman.com/2019/20190910_1966s.pdf be acceptable?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
The Food order has been created. Please check to avoid disappointment.
I do not have standard orders from Justin or Caparica. Please order from the menu.
I do not have standard orders from Justin or Caparica. Please order from the menu.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Starter:
Truffle mac and Cheese
Main:
Rare rib-eye steak (300g aged for 28 days) with hand-cut chips and Bearnaise
+ Green Salat
Truffle mac and Cheese
Main:
Rare rib-eye steak (300g aged for 28 days) with hand-cut chips and Bearnaise
+ Green Salat
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Thank you.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Chips (any sort) with my steak please. Thank you.DRT wrote: ↑10:51 Sat 27 Jul 2019 The Food order has been created. Please check to avoid disappointment.
I do not have standard orders from Justin or Caparica. Please order from the menu.
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Update on both current and default orders. Thank you for checking.
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Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
My food order is correct. I note Daniel has given his order but there is no line for Justin.DRT wrote: ↑10:51 Sat 27 Jul 2019 The Food order has been created. Please check to avoid disappointment.
I do not have standard orders from Justin or Caparica. Please order from the menu.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Thanks. I add the lines as the orders come in.AHB wrote: ↑12:16 Mon 29 Jul 2019My food order is correct. I note Daniel has given his order but there is no line for Justin.DRT wrote: ↑10:51 Sat 27 Jul 2019 The Food order has been created. Please check to avoid disappointment.
I do not have standard orders from Justin or Caparica. Please order from the menu.
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Confirming my attendance.
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Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
...and my food order is:
Starter - Duck liver pâté, toasted sourdough bread, house pickles
Main - Grilled gammon steak, free range egg, chips, spiced pork scratching, pickle gravy - plus the black pudding, and a side of green beans & shallots
Dessert - Welsh rarebit
Starter - Duck liver pâté, toasted sourdough bread, house pickles
Main - Grilled gammon steak, free range egg, chips, spiced pork scratching, pickle gravy - plus the black pudding, and a side of green beans & shallots
Dessert - Welsh rarebit
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Food Order
I note from the default food order that some people have items that are no longer on the menu. I have therefore applied the following substitutions:
"Cornish crab salad with ciabatta toasts" >> "Spiced fish cake, Cornish crab mayonnaise, mustard" (affects Christopher, Mike, Rebecca & Tony)
"Oak smoked salmon with beetroot, orange and horseradish" >> "Chapel and Swan oak smoked salmon, horseradish crème fraîche, capers" (affects Dave)
Please say if you want something different.
I note from the default food order that some people have items that are no longer on the menu. I have therefore applied the following substitutions:
"Cornish crab salad with ciabatta toasts" >> "Spiced fish cake, Cornish crab mayonnaise, mustard" (affects Christopher, Mike, Rebecca & Tony)
"Oak smoked salmon with beetroot, orange and horseradish" >> "Chapel and Swan oak smoked salmon, horseradish crème fraîche, capers" (affects Dave)
Please say if you want something different.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
May I change to the duck liver pate please.DRT wrote: ↑13:10 Tue 30 Jul 2019 Food Order
I note from the default food order that some people have items that are no longer on the menu. I have therefore applied the following substitutions:
"Cornish crab salad with ciabatta toasts" >> "Spiced fish cake, Cornish crab mayonnaise, mustard" (affects Christopher, Mike, Rebecca & Tony)
"Oak smoked salmon with beetroot, orange and horseradish" >> "Chapel and Swan oak smoked salmon, horseradish crème fraîche, capers" (affects Dave)
Please say if you want something different.
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
I have heard a rumour that JK will be ordering the same as me for his main course.
Please do get the order in at least a week before we meet so he and I can be sure of getting our special order steaks.
Please do get the order in at least a week before we meet so he and I can be sure of getting our special order steaks.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
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Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
I've decided I will stay in London after this event - I don't want to rush a vintage as classy as 1966
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Fear not. I am ordering the same for myself so it will be taken care of

"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
A very wise decision.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
I have exchanged emails with Rachael at the Boot and Flogger to re-confirm the booking and order 210 glasses. Rachael has confirmed that the following special order steaks are available with at least 7 days notice:
Rib-eye Bone in 400g - £34
T Bone 400g - £34
Chateaubriande 500g - £72
Please shout up if you want to order any of these.
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Re: RE: Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
That sounds grand. Please upgrade mine to the Rib-eye Bone in; thank you.DRT wrote:Rachael has confirmed that the following special order steaks are available with at least 7 days notice:
Rib-eye Bone in 400g - £34
T Bone 400g - £34
Chateaubriande 500g - £72
Please shout up if you want to order any of these.
Re: RE: Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Done.
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Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Rib-eye bone in for me please, but no chips - just steak and french beans.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
In which case I would like to upgrade to Rib-eye bone in please (black and blue) plus chips and green beans. - Thank you.
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Done.
Done.
Please note that I have applied all of these upgrades to the order for this tasting and the default order. If that is not wanted please let me know what should be on the default.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Pâté
Special order rib eye (medium rare)
Carrots
New potatoes
Special order rib eye (medium rare)
Carrots
New potatoes
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Done. Thanks.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: 10th Sep 2019 - 1966 Horizontal at the B&F
Could I please change to the Rib Eye bone in. Rare. Thx.