idj123 wrote:GM06 now £16.80 (or at least it is at my local Sainsbury's).
Buy it all. How do they sell it so cheap? They certainly aren’t buying it that cheap.
They did the same with the 05 at another Sainsbury's and was a precursor to them clearing down their stock and effectively dumbing down the range of Port they hold.. Clearly I live in an area bereft of Port lovers! If it were practical I'd buy some up for you Andy (there were at least 10 bottles left) :
Still full price in my local Sainsbury’s unfortunately. It might also be one of those crazy store-specific clear outs when they try to flog off the “old” QdM that’s been on the shelves since Christmas to be replaced with some “new” bottles of the same vintage.
The case of Sainsbury's TTD 2000 I ordered for delivery to my cellar turned into 2 bottles of the 2000 and 1 bottle of the 2003. Back to buying it off the shelf...
Two orphan bottles of Niepoort Bioma 2011 from the Nicolas in the Rue Buci at 58 euros each. They seemed surprised to sell it, so they're probably had it a while, but the shop is air conditioned and dark so...
... I should add that that appeared to be the whole stock, and there's none on the corporate website, but it was clearly made available to franchisees back in the days so...
The Bioma 2011 is superb! I had one a couple of weeks ago. The 2011 vintage really was superb. I went a bit mad at release and I don’t regret having this in Magnums!
Doggett wrote: ↑13:06 Wed 14 Oct 2020
You do a fine job Neil... of tempting one with your regular updates of availability and pricing for the great juice!
nac wrote: ↑17:33 Wed 21 Oct 2020
Have been approached by Miles Davis of WineOwners.com to see if I was interested in a bottle of the Taylor's Scion 1855.
I'm not, but someone here might be?
It's duty paid (so no extra VAT) and "from a good collector's home", purchased 2010.
It is a very lovely port and I would love to get one, but out of my league I am afraid to say. If I could afford it, I think the money would be better spent on a few days at the Yeatman and then drinking a few glasses of Scion in Dick’s Bar instead (if they still offer it at €100 for 100ml). Thank you for conveying the opportunity though Neil.
My notes indicate that when I was at the Yeatman in 2011 the price for a 50ml pour of Scion was EUR 100. Last time I was at the hotel in 2017 it was no longer available by the glass.
And while we're on the topic, you can currently buy a glass of the AJ Symington 1882 tawny Port at the Graham's lodge — a 50ml pour is EUR 600.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
AHB wrote: ↑09:39 Thu 22 Oct 2020
And while we're on the topic, you can currently buy a glass of the AJ Symington 1882 tawny Port at the Graham's lodge — a 50ml pour is EUR 600.
Bargain.
Slightly cheaper than this and the Scion, the online wine shop of The Yeatman has 1966 Delaforce for €114 per 75cl bottle.
AHB wrote: ↑09:39 Thu 22 Oct 2020
My notes indicate that when I was at the Yeatman in 2011 the price for a 50ml pour of Scion was EUR 100.
In 2015 it was still available in the Taylor's lodge next to the Yeatman, I *think* for the same price, possibly slightly more.
AHB wrote: ↑09:39 Thu 22 Oct 2020
And while we're on the topic, you can currently buy a glass of the AJ Symington 1882 tawny Port at the Graham's lodge — a 50ml pour is EUR 600.
aka the "Ne Oublie" presumably, unless a separate barrel sample?
Just been sent an offer by BIWine for 4.5l Jeroboams of Graham's 10/20/30/40 Tawny.
Pricing as follows:
10 Year Old - £145 in bond / £196 inc duty & VAT (30 available)
20 Year Old - £195 / £256 (20)
30 Year Old - £335 / £424 (15)
40 Year Old - £500 / £622 (12)
If anyone wants the full email, let me know & I'll forward it.
It would be quite fun to own one, and I wouldn't mind paying a modest premium for the privilege but with Tesco and Amazon both selling the 10 Year Old tawny at £15 a bottle, it is hard to be tempted... I haven't investigated the prices for the older Ports. Perhaps they are more reasonable?
JacobH wrote: ↑21:14 Sat 24 Oct 2020
I haven't investigated the prices for the older Ports. Perhaps they are more reasonable?
In the US, a 20 year old will be around $50 at retail. A 30 year old will be around $70 to $90. A 40 year old will be anywhere from $125 to $180 depending on brand. These are rough guides... I'm sure someone can find a lower price somewhere, but there are also higher prices for some brands.
A 4.5l bottle is half a case, so those in bond prices for the older Ports look pretty good. Not so much for the 10 or 20.
If I were in the UK, I would seriously consider getting a 4.5l of the 40. The only thing holding me back would be that I don't really think the Graham's 40 year old is all that great. Perhaps I am spoiled, but Graham's blended tawnies seem pretty entry-level to me.
You are right- having checked the English prices, the 40 year old is a touch over what six bottles would cost; the 30 year old is perhaps a bit cheaper than the cheapest case of six but the younger two have massive markups.
The Aldi Christmas range has hit the shelves. They are using the Fletchers Brand name this year rather than Maynards, but the 40YO tawny is available again under the new name at £34.99, a 2016 LBV at £9.49 a 20cl Reserve Ruby at £4.99 and online only you can get a 4.5l 10YO Tawny at £99.99! There are also some reasonable wines including Amarone in their Xmas catalogue.
Enjoy...
Doggett wrote: ↑11:37 Sun 01 Nov 2020
The Aldi Christmas range has hit the shelves. They are using the Fletchers Brand name this year rather than Maynards, but the 40YO tawny is available again under the new name at £34.99, a 2016 LBV at £9.49 a 20cl Reserve Ruby at £4.99 and online only you can get a 4.5l 10YO Tawny at £99.99! There are also some reasonable wines including Amarone in their Xmas catalogue.
Enjoy...
You beat me to it Simon! Managed to secure a couple of the 40yr yesterday.
Doggett wrote: ↑11:37 Sun 01 Nov 2020
The Aldi Christmas range has hit the shelves. They are using the Fletchers Brand name this year rather than Maynards, but the 40YO tawny is available again under the new name at £34.99, a 2016 LBV at £9.49 a 20cl Reserve Ruby at £4.99 and online only you can get a 4.5l 10YO Tawny at £99.99! There are also some reasonable wines including Amarone in their Xmas catalogue.
Enjoy...
You beat me to it Simon! Managed to secure a couple of the 40yr yesterday.
Interesting, I suspect it is from the same source - I wonder why they have dropped the Maynard's Brand?
Thanks very much for this: I’ve just ordered a couple of bottles with a load of weird-but-cheap things to make up a case of six since the LBV sold-out. Sparkling Blue Moscato is not something I previously knew existed...
Waitrose and Waitrose cellars have the 25% of 6 bottles of more. Not much on offer but Sandeman 2015 LBV under £13 (with offer) is a pretty good price.
I am not sure anyone has ever linked to Good Housekeeping before as a reference for port buying...so here goes a first! I thought it was worth posting for the refreshingly honest/brutal scores for these ruby ports. The 55/100 on the 100 point scale for the Tesco special reserve made by the Symingtons must only indicate that it is wet, alcoholic, red and called port!
I think it's interesting that they are clearly unfazed by label (notice how badly some Crusted Ports and unfiltered LBVs did) but I do wonder if they preferred the sweeter and fruitier Ports to the drier ones?
I'd be very interested to see how they're using the 100-point scale, and what if any controls were used regarding its application. I.e. that 55-point score does not match the written description.
Note: most 100-point scales are - even technically - just 50-point scales. For the ones that I've seen used for professional judging, it isn't possible to score lower than 50. I.e. a glass of mud would score 50 points. So a score of 55 should be entirely undrinkable. "This tangy red plum aroma is tart smelling with a ripe and juicy berry fruit flavour, a touch of bitterness and astringent tannins" does not sound undrinkable to me.
Ergo, they're not using the 100-point scale that wine drinkers are used to seeing.
I also find it funny that they scored Taylor's First Estate so low. When we did our multiple blind taste tests of Ruby Reserves across the US several years ago, First Estate won every tasting in which it was entered. IIRC that was 3 of 5 tastings, but one of the tastings that did not include First Estate was very small (I think only 4 bottles). At any rate, First Estate was the clear victor when the tastings were aggregated.
Even non-port-drinking friends are pointing out to me that Aldi are now doing a gallon of 10 year old tawny for £99... as previously noted above, I find. The news is here first.
Offer received yesterday from Fine & Rare (frw.co.uk) for 1994 Taylor and Fonseca. Apparently recently shipped from Oporto. Both are £570 per 6 in bond.
If you're a Wine Society member then you've probably already seen these, but if not their Christmas Fine Wine List has halves of Bomfim 2006 (£14.50), Malvedos 2010 & 2012 (£16.50), and bottles of Cavadinha 2001, 2005 & 2012 (all £29).
nac wrote: ↑10:03 Tue 10 Nov 2020
Offer received yesterday from Fine & Rare (frw.co.uk) for 1994 Taylor and Fonseca. Apparently recently shipped from Oporto. Both are £570 per 6 in bond.
I received the same offer, and if not for the fact that these are in the UK I'd have picked up a 6-pack of each. That's a good price for a couple of truly great Ports.
nac wrote: ↑09:34 Thu 12 Nov 2020
Another offer received from Fine & Rare today - QUINTA DO MOURÃO, SÃO LEONARDO, VERY OLD WHITE PORT, 90-YEAR-OLD - £925/bt in bond.
If anyone wants me to forward the offer email let me know.
A stunning port that if you can afford it would be worth every drop. I was lucky enough to have a glass at the 2019 b.f.t. and it was absolutely sublime.
nac wrote: ↑09:34 Thu 12 Nov 2020
Another offer received from Fine & Rare today - QUINTA DO MOURÃO, SÃO LEONARDO, VERY OLD WHITE PORT, 90-YEAR-OLD - £925/bt in bond.
If anyone wants me to forward the offer email let me know.
Note that those are 500 ml bottles. As I recall, all of Mourao's white Ports only come in 500 ml.
That said, the Port is amazing and comes in a very fancy toasted cork box just like this one for the 50.
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nac wrote: ↑09:34 Thu 12 Nov 2020
Another offer received from Fine & Rare today - QUINTA DO MOURÃO, SÃO LEONARDO, VERY OLD WHITE PORT, 90-YEAR-OLD - £925/bt in bond.
If anyone wants me to forward the offer email let me know.
Note that those are 500 ml bottles. As I recall, all of Mourao's white Ports only come in 500 ml.
You’re right, it is a 50cl - missed that earlier - and yes, similar box...
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