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Justin K · Post by **Justin K** » 21:56 Wed 08 Sep 2021

T77 x 12
T85 x 12
At auction for a little over €50 per bottle.
Labels poop, levels all good and bought from original cellar.

Justin K · Post by **Justin K** » 21:58 Wed 08 Sep 2021

I said s h I t e but it auto corrected me

winesecretary · Post by **winesecretary** » 22:23 Wed 08 Sep 2021

Well poop labels or not you did brilliantly there.

M.Charlton · Post by **M.Charlton** » 22:37 Wed 08 Sep 2021

Justin K wrote: ↑21:56 Wed 08 Sep 2021 T77 x 12
T85 x 12
At auction for a little over €50 per bottle.
Labels poop, levels all good and bought from original cellar.

That’s a very nice win, Justin. T77 is on top form at present.

nac · Post by **nac** » 09:45 Tue 21 Sep 2021

Recently picked up a couple of halves of W77, which (when recording the purchase in my cellar spreadsheet) I then realised meant I could take this...

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winesecretary · Post by **winesecretary** » 10:59 Tue 21 Sep 2021

That is a truly satisfying picture

I'm available for the tasting where we drink all four bottles, it really would be the ultimate port geekery.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 14:09 Wed 22 Sep 2021

That is a wonderful picture. I shall keep my eye out for a double magnum of W77 for your next purchase.

JKristiansen · Post by **JKristiansen** » 16:35 Fri 24 Sep 2021

1 x 1L Porto Dom Rozès
2 x Graham's Quinta dos Malvedos 2008
2 x Graham's Quinta dos Malvedos 2009

Big fan of Graham's - and especially the Single harvest collection

hadge · Post by **hadge** » 19:22 Thu 30 Sep 2021

Grahams 85
Warre LBV 84
Taylor TF 86
Taylor 70
couple of Taylor 80
a few Serafim Cabrals 1970 (couple of bottles to be kept for 70 tasting)
Case of Taylor 77

MigSU · Post by **MigSU** » 20:16 Thu 30 Sep 2021

Nice haul.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 20:43 Thu 30 Sep 2021

Grahams 85
Warre LBV 84
Taylor TF 86
Taylor 70
couple of Taylor 80
a few Serafim Cabrals 1970 (couple of bottles to be kept for 70 tasting)
Case of Taylor 77

If the T77 is a late released stash, they will be re-corked and fine, but if it's an original release case, expect seepage - usually evidenced as crusting round the base of the capsules.

The original corks on this bottling were some of the worst ever deployed on VP

slateshalehead · Post by **slateshalehead** » 20:48 Thu 30 Sep 2021

uncle tom wrote: ↑20:43 Thu 30 Sep 2021
Grahams 85
Warre LBV 84
Taylor TF 86
Taylor 70
couple of Taylor 80
a few Serafim Cabrals 1970 (couple of bottles to be kept for 70 tasting)
Case of Taylor 77
If the T77 is a late released stash, they will be re-corked and fine, but if it's an original release case, expect seepage - usually evidenced as crusting round the base of the capsules.

The original corks on this bottling were some of the worst ever deployed on VP

Out of curiosity, is there a way other than seepage to determine original release versus late release of the T77? I've seen a few for sale at auction online but never noticed a difference in labeling...

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 21:07 Thu 30 Sep 2021

Out of curiosity, is there a way other than seepage to determine original release versus late release of the T77? I've seen a few for sale at auction online but never noticed a difference in labeling...

The Symingtons usually apply labels in the current format, resulting in quite a few styles for some wines, whereas the TFP are more inclined to use their historic styles. Some recent TFP labels are laser printed when the volume is small - the ink sits on the surface of the paper, rather than soaking into it - you can tell by looking at the label from an angle - the ink sits on the paper rather than beds into it.

slateshalehead · Post by **slateshalehead** » 01:35 Fri 01 Oct 2021

uncle tom wrote: ↑21:07 Thu 30 Sep 2021
Out of curiosity, is there a way other than seepage to determine original release versus late release of the T77? I've seen a few for sale at auction online but never noticed a difference in labeling...
The Symingtons usually apply labels in the current format, resulting in quite a few styles for some wines, whereas the TFP are more inclined to use their historic styles. Some recent TFP labels are laser printed when the volume is small - the ink sits on the surface of the paper, rather than soaking into it - you can tell by looking at the label from an angle - the ink sits on the paper rather than beds into it.

Ahhhhh okay, I thought "late release" meant a later release in a the early 1980s when the T77 hit the market; I now understand that it means a modern bottling. Thanks for the clarification!

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 05:30 Fri 01 Oct 2021

I now understand that it means a modern bottling. Thanks for the clarification!

Late release bottles are those held by the producers in their lodges for several years, usually unlabelled. They are all bottled at the same time, but sometimes when the original corks are poor, the late released bottles get re-corked by the producers prior to sale.

M.Charlton · Post by **M.Charlton** » 13:07 Fri 01 Oct 2021

uncle tom wrote: ↑21:07 Thu 30 Sep 2021
Out of curiosity, is there a way other than seepage to determine original release versus late release of the T77? I've seen a few for sale at auction online but never noticed a difference in labeling...
The Symingtons usually apply labels in the current format, resulting in quite a few styles for some wines, whereas the TFP are more inclined to use their historic styles. Some recent TFP labels are laser printed when the volume is small - the ink sits on the surface of the paper, rather than soaking into it - you can tell by looking at the label from an angle - the ink sits on the paper rather than beds into it.

M.Charlton · Post by **M.Charlton** » 13:08 Fri 01 Oct 2021

M.Charlton wrote: ↑13:07 Fri 01 Oct 2021
uncle tom wrote: ↑21:07 Thu 30 Sep 2021
Out of curiosity, is there a way other than seepage to determine original release versus late release of the T77? I've seen a few for sale at auction online but never noticed a difference in labeling...
The Symingtons usually apply labels in the current format, resulting in quite a few styles for some wines, whereas the TFP are more inclined to use their historic styles. Some recent TFP labels are laser printed when the volume is small - the ink sits on the surface of the paper, rather than soaking into it - you can tell by looking at the label from an angle - the ink sits on the paper rather than beds into it.

M.Charlton · Post by **M.Charlton** » 13:11 Fri 01 Oct 2021

M.Charlton wrote: ↑13:08 Fri 01 Oct 2021
M.Charlton wrote: ↑13:07 Fri 01 Oct 2021
uncle tom wrote: ↑21:07 Thu 30 Sep 2021
Out of curiosity, is there a way other than seepage to determine original release versus late release of the T77? I've seen a few for sale at auction online but never noticed a difference in labeling...
The Symingtons usually apply labels in the current format, resulting in quite a few styles for some wines, whereas the TFP are more inclined to use their historic styles. Some recent TFP labels are laser printed when the volume is small - the ink sits on the surface of the paper, rather than soaking into it - you can tell by looking at the label from an angle - the ink sits on the paper rather than beds into it.

The more recently labelled bottling had an IVDP seal code number LB-04 190119, and was labelled in November 2009.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 14:07 Fri 01 Oct 2021

and was labelled in November 2009.

There's a good chance they also re-corked it at the same time.

winesecretary · Post by **winesecretary** » 16:42 Sun 03 Oct 2021

Quinta do Portal 2013 LBV in a wine shop/bar in Shawlands, Glasgow. Not seen it before so why not?

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 16:46 Sun 03 Oct 2021

3 x Royal Oporto 1958 - labels terrible, but levels good

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 20:47 Tue 05 Oct 2021

uncle tom wrote: ↑20:43 Thu 30 Sep 2021 If the T77 is a late released stash, they will be re-corked and fine, but if it's an original release case, expect seepage - usually evidenced as crusting round the base of the capsules.

The original corks on this bottling were some of the worst ever deployed on VP

So far it seems that I have been lucky. In addition to a small handful of bottles - perhaps 3 or 4 - that I have already consumed, I still have 4 x 1977 Taylor in my fridges that appear to be original release bottles and which do not appear to be seeping.

JKristiansen · Post by **JKristiansen** » 14:39 Sun 10 Oct 2021

1 x Rozès Very Old Port
1x Taylor's Single Harvest 1966
1 x Taylor's Single Harvest 1968

1 x sample Taylor's Single Harvest 1863
1 x sample Taylor's Single Harvest 1896
1 x sample Taylor's Kingsman Edition

Big fan of Graham's - and especially the Single harvest collection

Post by **PhilW** » 15:07 Sun 10 Oct 2021

JKristiansen wrote: 1 x sample Taylor's Single Harvest 1863
1 x sample Taylor's Single Harvest 1896
1 x sample Taylor's Kingsman Edition

That is a fabulous tasting sample comparison that I would love to do myself. Please do let us know your thoughts on how they compare when you taste them.

DanSelk · Post by **DanSelk** » 07:38 Tue 12 Oct 2021

Wanting to add some photos to here of recent purchases but when I use my iPhone it says the size is too big to upload to the site.
I can't see anywhere how to reduce image quality

I've messaged Admin on here but not had a reply for weeks. Can anyone help please??

MigSU · Post by **MigSU** » 10:53 Tue 12 Oct 2021

Two bottles each of Noval 2000 (alas, not Nacional) and Burmester 1994.

MigSU · Post by **MigSU** » 10:56 Tue 12 Oct 2021

DanSelk wrote: ↑07:38 Tue 12 Oct 2021 Wanting to add some photos to here of recent purchases but when I use my iPhone it says the size is too big to upload to the site.
I can't see anywhere how to reduce image quality
I've messaged Admin on here but not had a reply for weeks. Can anyone help please??

The way I see it, you have two options: either reduce the picture quality on your iPhone camera settings (you probably have the quality set to max or near max - as you should, but it does create problems when trying to upload to forums or message boards, as they usually have a size limit) or you first upload the pictures to a picture-hosting website (like imgbb or imgur, for example) and then post the direct links (so the pics actually appear, not just the link) in your post here.

JacobH · Post by **JacobH** » 11:09 Tue 12 Oct 2021

DanSelk wrote: ↑07:38 Tue 12 Oct 2021 Wanting to add some photos to here of recent purchases but when I use my iPhone it says the size is too big to upload to the site.
I can't see anywhere how to reduce image quality
I've messaged Admin on here but not had a reply for weeks. Can anyone help please??

I asked about this here. It seems the options are: a) resize the images on your computer to under 500KB before uploading; b) use a screen-shot function on your computer to do the same; or c) use the Tapatalk App to upload them.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 12:53 Tue 12 Oct 2021

I also use an iPhone. I email myself the picture I want to upload. When I send the email my phone asks me what size I want the image and basically gives me a choice of small, medium or large. I always choose small and find the image I receive by email loads up to the site perfectly well.

But I still have problems if I try to upload more than one image per post.

DanSelk · Post by **DanSelk** » 15:26 Tue 12 Oct 2021

Thanks everyone, will try these suggestions.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 20:32 Tue 12 Oct 2021

DanSelk wrote: ↑07:38 Tue 12 Oct 2021 Wanting to add some photos to here of recent purchases but when I use my iPhone it says the size is too big to upload to the site.
I can't see anywhere how to reduce image quality
I've messaged Admin on here but not had a reply for weeks. Can anyone help please??

Macs and PCs both have software that can edit images for you fairly trivially. I'm only familiar with the process on a PC, but for that I just use Paint. It has an option to resize an image which is very straightforward.

DanSelk · Post by **DanSelk** » 08:56 Wed 13 Oct 2021

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Been able to add them, finally, thanks all. Only tried the Sandeman Tawny Ports so far, which were excellent.

DanSelk · Post by **DanSelk** » 08:57 Wed 13 Oct 2021

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DanSelk · Post by **DanSelk** » 08:58 Wed 13 Oct 2021

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Not tried any of these yet but plan to very soon!

MigSU · Post by **MigSU** » 09:08 Wed 13 Oct 2021

I'm running out of cellar space. A most unwelcome development.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 10:08 Wed 13 Oct 2021

I'm running out of cellar space. A most unwelcome development.

Double depth racks are really useful for making better use of cellar space. Companies like Cranville will also make racks to whatever pitch you specify between the bottles. The vast majority of wine and port bottles are less than 85mm in diameter, but the standard pitch of wine racks is usually 96 or 98mm, so there's scope for squeezing more bottles in with a tighter rack pitch.

MigSU · Post by **MigSU** » 12:05 Wed 13 Oct 2021

Most people would say "buy less wine", or even "drink more wine", but you went with "here are some ways for you to accumulate more wine". I respect that.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 19:33 Wed 13 Oct 2021

MigSU wrote: ↑12:05 Wed 13 Oct 2021 Most people would say "buy less wine", or even "drink more wine", but you went with "here are some ways for you to accumulate more wine". I respect that.

You are talking to the man with three cellars. He has managed to overcome the challenge of running out of storage space without slowing down the pace at which he buys wine and Port.

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 02:40 Thu 14 Oct 2021

DanSelk wrote:
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Been able to add them, finally, thanks all. Only tried the Sandeman Tawny Ports so far, which were excellent.

I do enjoy the Sandeman and Kopke TWAIOA.

Justin K · Post by **Justin K** » 17:25 Thu 14 Oct 2021

Finally found a place supplying Quevedo Port, Oscar will be pleased, not in Ireland but Yorkshire (The Horseshoe Inn Egton Bridge near Whitby). So tonight we’ll be drinking his 10 year old Tawny which will be a first for me.

JacobH · Post by **JacobH** » 07:54 Fri 15 Oct 2021

Justin K wrote: ↑17:25 Thu 14 Oct 2021 Finally found a place supplying Quevedo Port, Oscar will be pleased, not in Ireland but Yorkshire (The Horseshoe Inn Egton Bridge near Whitby). So tonight we’ll be drinking his 10 year old Tawny which will be a first for me.

It’s really pleasing to see Quevedo out “in the wild”, as it were, rather than limited to special interest groups. It also happened to me, recently: I went round to a friend’s for dinner; he said he’d had a bottle of white Port that he’d been meaning to open for ages; I was a bit worried that it might be the Chip Dry but it turned out to be the Quevedo one.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 15:49 Fri 15 Oct 2021

Is anyone going to head to Strakers to pick up after today’s sale? If so, I’m after a small favour…

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 15:57 Fri 15 Oct 2021

Is anyone going to head to Strakers to pick up after today’s sale? If so, I’m after a small favour…

Don't know if I've won anything yet - and was not bidding very aggressively. I do have a small stash at Brightwells to collect tho'

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 20:48 Fri 15 Oct 2021

uncle tom wrote: ↑15:57 Fri 15 Oct 2021
Is anyone going to head to Strakers to pick up after today’s sale? If so, I’m after a small favour…
Don't know if I've won anything yet - and was not bidding very aggressively. I do have a small stash at Brightwells to collect tho'

Tom,

I’ve sent you an email.

winesecretary · Post by **winesecretary** » 17:22 Sat 16 Oct 2021

Case of Warre 1977 from Straker Chadwick for drinking over the next few years. Hurrah!

MigSU · Post by **MigSU** » 17:26 Sat 16 Oct 2021

winesecretary wrote: ↑17:22 Sat 16 Oct 2021 Case of Warre 1977 from Straker Chadwick for drinking over the next few years. Hurrah!

I'm being offered a few bottles of that but I'm not sure the asking price is worth it (will try to negotiate, of course). Would it be indiscreet of me to ask how much you paid? Feel free to PM me, if you'd prefer.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 21:13 Sat 16 Oct 2021

Case of Warre 1977

Still, incredibly, I think for over ten years now, the most frequently seen VP at auctions in the UK..

..and for that reason, it tends to sell at less than full weight. Pre-pandemic it was going for £600-£750 for a dozen, hammer; since then, prices for all collectibles have gone utterly insane..

Still, I've just secured a half case of Sandeman '75 VP - a missing mainstream VP from my cellar - at a very modest - long shot price..

Mike J. W. · Post by **Mike J. W.** » 03:13 Mon 18 Oct 2021

1 x 1968 Krohn's Colheita
2 x 1979 Kopke Colheita (bottled 2019)
1 x 1988 Graham's Malvedos SQVP
1 x 2011 Graham's VP
1 x 2017 Niepoort VP

winesecretary · Post by **winesecretary** » 05:59 Mon 18 Oct 2021

@ Mike J.W. - I think you'll be impressed with the Niepoort. Best young VP I've ever drunk.

Post by **flash_uk** » 10:13 Mon 18 Oct 2021

uncle tom wrote: ↑15:57 Fri 15 Oct 2021
Is anyone going to head to Strakers to pick up after today’s sale? If so, I’m after a small favour…
Don't know if I've won anything yet - and was not bidding very aggressively. I do have a small stash at Brightwells to collect tho'

Ah…a stash at Brightwell’s. Email on the way to you Tom…