LBVs: New York, Thursday 8th May 2008?

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 20:42 Thu 24 Apr 2008

the 82 warres Lbv is on order and should be coming in on monday.

Post by **jdaw1** » 01:33 Fri 25 Apr 2008

OK, I reckon we are just five people then:

Do others agree with my counting?

Next, tell me what bottles we’re having so that I can make placemats before moving apartment.

jfacciol · Post by **jfacciol** » 01:43 Fri 25 Apr 2008

Niepoort 1992 and Churchill 1990.

Post by **jdaw1** » 02:11 Fri 25 Apr 2008

Two bottles only?! Oh dear, we have fallen on hard times.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 02:41 Fri 25 Apr 2008

i'll bring a dry red for dinner to celebrate the belated birthday =)

EricD · Post by **EricD** » 11:01 Fri 25 Apr 2008

I can bring a Javali 2001 and a Castelinho 1997. If my friend Eric wishes to join he can bring a Fonseca 2001. I will speak to him today and see if he can make it.

Post by **jdaw1** » 12:37 Fri 25 Apr 2008

We should buy the dry reds from the restaurant.

Post by **jdaw1** » 16:23 Fri 25 Apr 2008

Port quantities are still light. I have no LBVs, so am happy to adopt or share cost or something.

jfacciol · Post by **jfacciol** » 15:30 Sat 26 Apr 2008

Five bottles for five people is light? Is David bringing an LBV?

One other thought: if there are only five of us, I would be happy to host this at my home in Carroll Gardens, which is 1/2 block from the F train, rather than going to the upper West Side, where none of us (?) now live and is (at least for me) a long subway ride.

Jeff had once suggested, before the LBV became a substitute for the O&O tasting, that we make the LBV tasting a potluck. If folks were amenable to doing the tasting at my home, potluck would certainly work.

Post by **jdaw1** » 17:17 Sat 26 Apr 2008

I’m amenable to either of those suggestions.

(For those, like me, unsure of the meaning, Wikipedia defines Potluck.)

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 18:07 Sat 26 Apr 2008

hey Jay, is the G train anywhere near you? While the F train does work, I'd prefer not to take the F train back through Manhattan into queens again.

Also, perhaps we can get something catered? I'd be happy to chip in for the costs.

I would love to perhaps cater from Grimaldi's or Di Fara's

jfacciol · Post by **jfacciol** » 19:18 Sat 26 Apr 2008

The G train is half a block from my home. Grimaldi's (once Patsy's) did not deliver in the past. Does it now? For those who don't know, Grimaldi's makes excellent pizza, or at least did so five years ago.

Di Fara's I don't know.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 20:06 Sat 26 Apr 2008

they still dont but what we've done in the past is go there and pick up.

Heh i never realized that me and Jay are at exact opposite ends of the G line.

Post by **jdaw1** » 23:10 Sat 26 Apr 2008

The PM I sent to DifferentDave a few days ago hasn’t yet been collected. Could somebody able to contact him by another means please do so, and find out his plans.

Five amongst five is at the light end. May I sponsor an extra from someone’s collection?

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 23:42 Sat 26 Apr 2008

jdaw1 wrote:The PM I sent to DifferentDave a few days ago hasn’t yet been collected. Could somebody able to contact him by another means please do so, and find out his plans.

Five amongst five is at the light end. May I sponsor an extra from someone’s collection?

if we're doing it at jay's house, i'd bring the dry reds i've mentioned before.

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:00 Mon 28 Apr 2008

I have cancelled the booking at Bistro Citron.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 02:29 Fri 02 May 2008

My friend Subir will be joining us for some purple sunshine too.

Can I trouble someone to pitch in another bottle?

Jay, is there a wine shop near you that perhaps we might be able to scour for some hidden treasures?

EricD · Post by **EricD** » 03:07 Fri 02 May 2008

g-man wrote:My friend Subir will be joining us for some purple sunshine too.

Can I trouble someone to pitch in another bottle?

Jay, is there a wine shop near you that perhaps we might be able to scour for some hidden treasures?

Jeff

My friend cancelled, so I can bring an extra bottle for your friend. I'm bringing the Javali 2001 and the Castelinho 1997, but I can also bring either a Pocas 1998, a Rozes 1994 or a Fonseca 2001 Unfiltered. I think this is the first time Fonseca has done an unfiltered LBV, and I'm kind of curious about it. Let me know which one you want me to bring.

BTW, I think Grimaldi's is a great idea!

Post by **jdaw1** » 03:19 Fri 02 May 2008

Please could somebody make a list of what LBVs we’re serving. For the placemats, you see.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 03:27 Fri 02 May 2008

Niepoort 1992 and Churchill 1990
warres 82, fonseca 01, Javali 2001 and the Castelinho 1997
..
I'm going to sneak in a 79 bordeaux as perhaps the dinner wine (no guarantees on it's drinkability tho)

Post by **jdaw1** » 03:39 Fri 02 May 2008

g-man wrote:Niepoort 1992 and Churchill 1990
warres 82, fonseca 01, Javali 2001 and the Castelinho 1997

Which of these is unﬁltered, which ﬁltered? How much does each cost? EricD is bringing some (which being deducible from his recent post): is Jay bringing all the others?

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=13827#13827]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Seen on the shelves of Manor House Cellar (61 West 23rd Street, ☏ +1 212 206 7900):
$80, Hutcheson 1980;
$67, Hutcheson colheita 1975;
$31, RozÃƒÂ¨s LBV 1994.

Do we want the RozÃƒÂ¨s LBV 1994 as a supplement? (Edit: just noticed that EricD has the RozÃƒÂ¨s LBV 1994 in his list.)

EricD · Post by **EricD** » 10:47 Fri 02 May 2008

I believe all of the LBV's that people will be bringing are unfiltered. Maybe we should throw in a standard flitered LBV for comparison. I also just recently picked up a Quarles Harris 2001, which is filtered. Maybe I should add that one.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 12:38 Fri 02 May 2008

be interesting to do the two 01' filtered/unfiltered.

The warres I believe is unfiltered.

jfacciol · Post by **jfacciol** » 16:53 Fri 02 May 2008

I'm contributing the Nieepoort and the Churchill. I just looked at both bottles and neither one says anything about being filtered, so I assume that means they are both unfiltered. (Do I have it right Eric?) I am indifferent on having a filtered LBV unless it matched one of the unfiltered brands. I am a bit concerned that the house taste would overwhelm any differences in taste due to filtered versus unfiltered. This would argue for tasting two Fonseca LBVs, for example.

I assume that we are planning on pizza sometime after the first hour to hour and a half. At this point, I would not drive. Are folks thinking of taking a car service to Grimaldi's and back? We could certainly do this. Another possibility is an Italian restaurant that is three blocks from my house (Savoia) and makes excellent pizza. They will also deliver or we could actually walk there to pick up the pizza.

A reminder of my home address and directions: … [Deleted by jdaw1. I’m sure that, on reflection, Jay didn’t mean to publish it in a google-readable place.]

Are there going to be five of us? I assume so as there has been no word from Different Dave. The attendees at the moment are

Jay
Julian
Eric
Jeff
Subir

Starting time? 6 or 6:30 pm? I vote for 6 but am happy to defer to those of us who are employed other than as a professor.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 17:06 Fri 02 May 2008

jfacciol wrote:I'm contributing the Nieepoort and the Churchill. I just looked at both bottles and neither one says anything about being filtered, so I assume that means they are both unfiltered. (Do I have it right Eric?) I am indifferent on having a filtered LBV unless it matched one of the unfiltered brands. I am a bit concerned that the house taste would overwhelm any differences in taste due to filtered versus unfiltered. This would argue for tasting two Fonseca LBVs, for example.

I assume that we are planning on pizza sometime after the first hour to hour and a half. At this point, I would not drive. Are folks thinking of taking a car service to Grimaldi's and back? We could certainly do this. Another possibility is an Italian restaurant that is three blocks from my house (Savoia) and makes excellent pizza. They will also deliver or we could actually walk there to pick up the pizza.

A reminder of my home address and directions: … [Deleted by jdaw1. I’m sure that, on reflection, Jay didn’t mean to publish it in a google-readable place.]

Are there going to be five of us? I assume so as there has been no word from Different Dave. The attendees at the moment are

Jay
Julian
Eric
Jeff
Subir

Starting time? 6 or 6:30 pm? I vote for 6 but am happy to defer to those of us who are employed other than as a professor.

I wouldn't be able to leave work until 5:30 and it takes about 45 minutes to get down there from midtown. Dave has not written back but I did give him a heads up.
Savoia sounds good as I don't goto Brooklyn often, I'm happy to try the other restaurants

[Edited by jdaw1 to remove the quoted Jay’s address.]

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 17:30 Fri 02 May 2008

http://www.usmenuguide.com/savoia.html

here's the menu for savoia

Perhaps we should order food when we start our first flight with the food arriving when we finish with our first round of tastings?

I'd like to thank Jay for hosting it at his house too.

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:56 Fri 02 May 2008

EricD wrote:I can bring a Javali 2001 and a Castelinho 1997. If my friend Eric wishes to join he can bring a Fonseca 2001. I will speak to him today and see if he can make it.

Does this mean that we have two Erics?

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 21:46 Fri 02 May 2008

jdaw1 wrote:
EricD wrote:I can bring a Javali 2001 and a Castelinho 1997. If my friend Eric wishes to join he can bring a Fonseca 2001. I will speak to him today and see if he can make it.
Does this mean that we have two Erics?

the other eric bailed, but tPf Eric has kindly donated his Fonseca to our cause.

jfacciol · Post by **jfacciol** » 17:51 Sat 03 May 2008

Based on Jeff's work, it sounds like a 6:30 pm start.

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:25 Sun 04 May 2008

Placemats (I will print and bring).

Please confirm bottles:

Unfiltered
Churchill 1990 (Jay);
Niepoort 1992 (Jay);
Caselinho 1997 (Eric);
Javali 2001 (Eric);
Warre 1982 (Jeff);
RozÃƒÂ¨s 1994 (Julian).

Filtered
Fonseca 2001 (Eric).

Please confirm people:

Julian;
Jay;
Jeff;
Eric;
Subir.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 18:05 Mon 05 May 2008

Different Dave: initials DC, messaged me and confirmed he will be attending on thursday. He too will need to adopt a bottle.

differentdave · Post by **differentdave** » 18:17 Mon 05 May 2008

Sorry for long delay I suck at communications

I have been looking foward to my second port night for a while.
As mentioned earlier in thread and my g-man I would need to source, otherwise you name the time and place and I will be there.

G-man are you heading in from work or home? If at home I can meet you there.

differentdave · Post by **differentdave** » 18:20 Mon 05 May 2008

Maybe I should not go if it is in Someone's house, Joking. (I will be on my best behavior)
Thanks for the hospitality/opening your hime Jay... and I hereby open my house for an offline once the construction is done (three more months I am told), so come end of summer we can have one on Long Island.

jfacciol · Post by **jfacciol** » 20:50 Mon 05 May 2008

I am glad to hear that Different Dave is making the tasting. Six works just fine.

Decanting times? My thought is about four hours before the tasting (for those of us who have the flexibility). What do you think Eric and others?

P.S. Jeff, did you send Dave directions?

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 21:33 Mon 05 May 2008

I did not give Dave your address.

EricD · Post by **EricD** » 02:04 Tue 06 May 2008

Julian:

A correction. The Fonseca is also unfiltered. They just started making unfiltered LBV's.

Jay:

FYI: As far as decanting times goes, I will have to decant mine before I leave for work in the morning, so mine will be decanted for around 9 hours.

Different Dave:

Did you want to adopt one of mine? Here's what I have to choose from: Sao Pedro 1997, Quinta da Peca 2000 and Quinta do Santa Eufemia 2000. Let me know if you want to adopt any of those.

Post by **jdaw1** » 02:14 Tue 06 May 2008

One filtered, for comparison, would be worthwhile.

differentdave · Post by **differentdave** » 14:21 Tue 06 May 2008

Got the directions, thank you.
Eric I would like to adopt anyone of the three you can choose, surprise the group (may not work for placemats though) as I am not familiar with any of them. Thanks for the offer.
I will bring money with me on Thursday.

EricD · Post by **EricD** » 02:20 Wed 07 May 2008

I just picked up a Dow 2001, which is filtered. As Julian suggested, we should have at least one filtered LBV for comparison, so how about I bring the Dow instead of the Fonseca and allow Dave to adopt that instead. So I would be contributing the Javali and the Castelinho, and Dave would be contributing the Dow. Does that work for everyone?

Post by **jdaw1** » 03:42 Wed 07 May 2008

EricD wrote:I just picked up a Dow 2001, which is filtered. As Julian suggested, we should have at least one filtered LBV for comparison, so how about I bring the Dow instead of the Fonseca

Works for me.

differentdave · Post by **differentdave** » 10:27 Wed 07 May 2008

Sounds good to me, looking forward to tomorrow night

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 12:50 Wed 07 May 2008

differentdave wrote:
G-man are you heading in from work or home? If at home I can meet you there.

heading straight from work.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 12:52 Wed 07 May 2008

jdaw1 wrote:
EricD wrote:I just picked up a Dow 2001, which is filtered. As Julian suggested, we should have at least one filtered LBV for comparison, so how about I bring the Dow instead of the Fonseca
Works for me.

Hey Eric,

do you think we can replace the Caselinho 1997 (Eric); with the Fonseca 2001 .

That way we have a mini 01 horizontal of LBVs?

differentdave · Post by **differentdave** » 18:23 Wed 07 May 2008

I can grab a 01 Taylor LBV as well if needed/wanted.

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:05 Wed 07 May 2008

New state of play — please confirm.

Bottles:

Unfiltered
Warre 1982 (Jeff);
Churchill 1990 (Jay);
Niepoort 1992 (Jay);
RozÃƒÂ¨s 1994 (Julian);
Fonseca 2001 (Eric);
Javali 2001 (Eric).

Filtered
Dow 2001 (Dave);
Taylor 2001 (Dave).

People:

Julian;
Jay;
Jeff;
Eric;
Subir;
Dave.

[Edit: T01 moved to Filtered Ã‚§ following DRT’s comment below.)

Post by **DRT** » 21:52 Wed 07 May 2008

To the best of my knowledge Taylor do not produce unfiltered LBV.

Have fun guys

Derek (Attendee in spirit)

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:36 Wed 07 May 2008

Placemats updated. Somebody please check (and admire the new technology).

jfacciol · Post by **jfacciol** » 03:03 Thu 08 May 2008

Julian, everything looks fine. I especially like the different typefaces for unfiltered and filtered LBVs. A nice visual touch.

Post by **jdaw1** » 03:05 Thu 08 May 2008

jfacciol wrote:Julian, everything looks fine. I especially like the different typefaces for unfiltered and filtered LBVs. A nice visual touch.

Thank you for noticing. They aren’t quite different typefaces though; they’re just switched from inside to outside.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 13:34 Thu 08 May 2008

I would join you with a virtual contribution, but nasty Derek has locked away all my LBVs somewhere cold, damp and dark and says I can't have them back for at least 5 years.

Alex

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