Old & Odd, New York, Friday 7th November 2008

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 23:34 Sun 07 Sep 2008

I can't find the original thread for this tasting, but there was a tasting arranged in New York in May (if I recall correctly) that was postponed at my request so that I could attend.

I will be in New York on the 15 and 16th of October. Is anyone interested in resurrecting this planned offline?

Alex

[Title edited by jdaw1 8pm EST on Mon 8 Sep to include date]
[Title edited by jdaw1 11am BST on Tue 7 Oct to change date]

Post by **jdaw1** » 00:53 Mon 08 Sep 2008

I’m in. O&O became the LBV tasting — which is why you can’t find it.

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=11977#p11977]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Bottles so far known to be available:
1873 Schofield (FF);

1932 Butler Nephew (ED);

1947 Barros (JDAW);

1952 Barros (JDAW);

1938 Hooper (JDAW);

1942 Hooper (JDAW);

1944 Hooper (JG).

First question: Wednesday 15th October or Thursday 16th October 2008?

PM invitation sent to ajrh, differentdave, EricD, g-man, hwangs, jfacciol, SEAN C., SushiNorth, Andy V, bob and AHB himself.

jfacciol · Post by **jfacciol** » 02:09 Mon 08 Sep 2008

If it is Thursday, October 16, I would like to join.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 02:18 Mon 08 Sep 2008

nuts, I can only do the 15th of oct, and even so I dont think I should as I've got my first organic exam the day after.

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 02:41 Mon 08 Sep 2008

Considering i will have just gotten home from my trip overseas 3 days earlier and Alex's L.A. offline on the 21st., I will no doubt be broke and not able to fly across country again for another offline, as much as I want to. So unless something changes, I most likely won't be able to make this.

differentdave · Post by **differentdave** » 11:29 Mon 08 Sep 2008

Count me in, think think I may need to adopt or source though. I will keep my eye out for something very old and or odd though.

Post by **jdaw1** » 12:03 Mon 08 Sep 2008

I own four suitable bottles — adopt from me.

Jay wants Thu 16 Oct, and g-man probably shouldn’t come on either date. That suggests Thursday 16 October 2008.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 13:49 Mon 08 Sep 2008

I can make Thursday 16th, but do not yet know where I will need to be on Friday 17th or whether that day will be the day I am deposed by plaintiff's counsel.

Bearing in mind I may need to have my wits about me on the Friday, I would very much prefer to have the tasting on Friday evening, if that fits with the social plans of others.

I have a bottle of "Refreshed 1896" port shipped under the name of Garcia. I know nothing about this bottle but would welcome an excuse to open it in the company of others who would find it interesting. This was the bottle that I was hinting of bringing to keep Jay's Schofield from being lonely.

Post by **jdaw1** » 18:11 Mon 08 Sep 2008

Friday 17th October 2008 works for me.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 19:13 Mon 08 Sep 2008

Friday Oct 17th works well with me too...

Would be the hooper 44 from me

differentdave · Post by **differentdave** » 19:55 Mon 08 Sep 2008

Fridays are generally better for me, I can 1)drink more 2) stay out later and 3)not have to go into work the following the day.

jfacciol · Post by **jfacciol** » 23:44 Mon 08 Sep 2008

Friday sounds good to me. But there has been such a huge outbreak on this forum of sensible statements about when to drink port that I am not sure this is really theportforum.

Post by **jdaw1** » 00:21 Tue 09 Sep 2008

We have a date. Title edited to “Old & Odd, New York, Friday 17th October 2008†.

Jay: this thread has mentioned that Friday evening is a good time to drink port. That view is fully consistent with official

policy. Other good times to drink port, also consistent with official

policy, include Monday lunch, Monday afternoon, Monday evening, Tuesday lunch, …, Friday afternoon, Saturday lunch, …, and Sunday evening. This would not be the real ThePortForum if any of these self-evidently excellent times were widely denied.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 00:47 Tue 09 Sep 2008

jdaw1 wrote:We have a date. Title edited to “Old & Odd, New York, Friday 17th October 2008†.

Jay: this thread has mentioned that Friday evening is a good time to drink port. That view is fully consistent with official policy. Other good times to drink port, also consistent with official policy, include Monday lunch, Monday afternoon, Monday evening, Tuesday lunch, …, Friday afternoon, Saturday lunch, …, and Sunday evening. This would not be the real ThePortForum if any of these self-evidently excellent times were widely denied.

That sounds like we just drink too much, how about any day that ends in a "y"

SEAN C. · Post by **SEAN C.** » 05:29 Tue 09 Sep 2008

I certainly would be interested and I'm sure I have a few Ports that fit the "Old & Odd" title..I know offhand I have a 1962 Dow "Special Reserve" and a 1947 Barros Colheita

EricD · Post by **EricD** » 12:01 Sat 13 Sep 2008

Count me in! Friday works for me.

TBird · Post by **TBird** » 18:19 Tue 16 Sep 2008

i'm quite bummed to miss this but i will be out of the country.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 17:40 Wed 17 Sep 2008

I called up Henry's End and they're willing to host us late on friday for roughly 8 (as in 6 or 10 range) people.
They said if we come in at 9pm we'd get the restaurant for the rest of the night.

http://www.henrysend.com/

Corkage is 25$/bottle

and the wild game festival starts in 2 weeks.

jfacciol · Post by **jfacciol** » 22:24 Wed 17 Sep 2008

Jeff, do I understand correctly that we could not start until 9 pm? That's too late for me, although the restaurant looks quite tempting.

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:28 Wed 17 Sep 2008

We’ll have a bottle or so of port each. That needs most of five hours.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 01:23 Thu 18 Sep 2008

Unfortunately i don't own the restaurant so I couldn't say =)

But the guy that picked up the phone did strongly hint at "later" in the night for fridays that I took to mean 9 =) ... I'm sure we can get away with 8:15-8:30

jfacciol · Post by **jfacciol** » 02:33 Thu 18 Sep 2008

I need to start at about 6 pm. I have a memorial service that I am attending in Westchester the next day and cannot burn any midnight oil.
My vote, therefore, would be to keep looking for another venue.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 02:34 Thu 18 Sep 2008

would you guys be interested in joining me there for dinner regardless not related to this tasting?

It was very good last time and I found it perfect for colder weather?

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 11:44 Mon 22 Sep 2008

I'm a bit hacked off, but it seems that I will need to move my US visit back by a couple of weeks. It now looks like I will be in LA on November 2-4 and in New York on November 5-7.

While this will give T-Bird another shot at attending, do these dates work for other folks in New York?

Alex

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:23 Mon 22 Sep 2008

It’s no trouble at all fitting tastings around you Alex. No trouble.

Wed 5th Nov, Thu 6th Nov, Fri 7th Nov: all OK with me.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 00:05 Tue 23 Sep 2008

I'd vote for a friday agin
Nov. 7th.

jfacciol · Post by **jfacciol** » 00:21 Tue 23 Sep 2008

I also vote for Friday night, although, in a pinch, I might be able to do Wednesday night.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 15:07 Mon 06 Oct 2008

I'm going to make every effort to attend once we have settled on a date. My wife wants to go to New York to see Spamalot again, so we're going to make it a weekend and have some fun.

I don't believe I have anything that qualifies as "old" or "odd" though, so I may have to adopt. Is there a formal definition of "odd" so that I can check? (My cellar almost certainly doesn't qualify for "old" as the oldest bottle I have is a 375 of the 1957 Kopke Colheita.)

Post by **jdaw1** » 16:26 Mon 06 Oct 2008

I have five bottles that qualify: please adopt.

TBird · Post by **TBird** » 22:56 Mon 06 Oct 2008

i'm officially confused.

when is this? i couldn't do 10/17, but other dates are always cool and i'm ready to adopt!

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:55 Tue 07 Oct 2008

Title changed again, to Friday 7th November.

jfacciol · Post by **jfacciol** » 15:21 Tue 07 Oct 2008

The only date that works for me is Friday, Nov. 7.

TBird · Post by **TBird** » 17:08 Tue 07 Oct 2008

cool, i'm in, and adoptable...

jdaw1 wrote:Title changed again, to Friday 7th November.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 05:37 Sun 12 Oct 2008

Is this date now firm? Friday, November 7th?

If so, my wife and I are going to purchase tickets to New York so that I can attend on Friday night and we can go to a show on Saturday night.

Where is this being held? I have access to an apartment in Manhattan - will that be good enough or should I try to get a hotel closer to the event location?

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 20:45 Sun 12 Oct 2008

Friday 7th is definite - or at least as definite as I can ever make anything when I have to travel subject to the demands of work.

My preference would be for the tasting to be mid-town or downtown to allow me to stay conveniently in either the Millennium Hilton or the New York Hilton at 52nd and Sixth.

Alex

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 18:37 Sat 18 Oct 2008

Re-posting:

My wife and I have purchased tickets to New York and so I'll be able to attend on Friday, November 7th!

We arrive in Newark at about 3:00 which should allow plenty of time to get to the apartment we will be using in Manhattan and then on to the tasting, wherever that ends up being.

jfacciol · Post by **jfacciol** » 19:28 Sun 19 Oct 2008

Has anyone scared up a place in midtown? If not and if Alex can trek to Brooklyn, I am offering my home again.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 21:19 Sun 19 Oct 2008

Brooklyn would work for me - I should be able to remember the way from the subway station this time!

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 03:42 Mon 20 Oct 2008

I'll be using some sort of public transport - most likely a taxi - so Brooklyn is fine with me.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 13:42 Mon 20 Oct 2008

If you guys would like, I have that molly dooker tasting tonight at Nick and Stef's

I think they're a pretty good venue and I was thinking about asking them if they'd be interested in hosting us.

If you guys are around can I get a roll count of people. I would ask for a reservation of 10.

Confirmed so far:

Glenn - 1
Julian - 1
Jay - 1
Jeff - 1 (maybe 2)
Alex - 1
Tbird - 1
Eric D. - 1

Not Sure
Sean C. -?

Location - Either Nick n Stef's or Jay's awesome apartment in Brooklyn, in which case we'll order out again.

Wines present:

* 1873 Schofield (FF);
* 1896 Garcia (AHB);
* 1932 Butler Nephew (ED);
* 1947 Barros (JDAW);
* 1952 Barros (JDAW);
* 1938 Hooper (JDAW);
* 1942 Hooper (JDAW); -- Glenn E. Adopting.
* 1944 Hooper (JG).

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 15:05 Mon 20 Oct 2008

I just saw this,

Nick & Stef's Steakhouse
9 Penn Plaza, New York, NY 10001

Corkage Fee: 0

Join us for BYOB Friday and Saturdays Through August @ Nick & Stef's Steakhouse! Check out http://www.patinagroup.com for other exciting events!

I'll confirm tonight if this is still true.

If it is, I'd like to recommend this restaurant for our tasting.

http://www.patinagroup.com/cgi-bin/menu ... Steakhouse

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 18:06 Mon 20 Oct 2008

Correction on number for me - my wife is not a Port drinker, so I'll be the only one attending the tasting. She is coming with me to New York so that she can drag me to Spamalot on Saturday night.

TBird · Post by **TBird** » 19:05 Mon 20 Oct 2008

either brooklyn or nick & stef's works for me. brooklyn is closer tho....

jfacciol · Post by **jfacciol** » 19:39 Mon 20 Oct 2008

If there is no corkage and the steak is good, the restaurant works for me.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 19:55 Mon 20 Oct 2008

jfacciol wrote:If there is no corkage and the steak is good, the restaurant works for me.

The steak is good, as are their sides =) ...
but I agree, if there's corkage, I wouldn't want to get hit with 300$ (assuming 30$ / bottle standard)

Otherwise, I'm happy to have a trek to brooklyn too.

glenn, are you going to spamalot after the tasting? or is it a separate day?

TBird · Post by **TBird** » 19:56 Mon 20 Oct 2008

if so, i'd shake his hand for that feat!

g-man wrote:
jfacciol wrote:glenn, are you going to spamalot after the tasting?

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 20:17 Mon 20 Oct 2008

Hahaha... no, we're going to Spamalot on Saturday night. However, I will still be performing a feat of sorts - flying for 7 hours and getting pre-dehydrated before going to a Port tasting! I'm think I'm going to need extra water for this one...

And just to make it official, I will be adopting one of JDAW's bottles that he has so kindly offered up. Being a fan of WWII games & such, and having never tasted a Hoopers, I will lay claim to the 1942 Hoopers. Though the 1947 Barros was also tempting!

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 20:29 Mon 20 Oct 2008

Yes, how often does a hooper's vertical come around

g-man · Post by **g-man** » 03:37 Tue 21 Oct 2008

Alrighty. Here's the deal. The general manager, Jennifer, says she would either cut the corkage in half, so it's 12.50$ a bottle or if we order something(s) of equal value (of the corkage) on the WINE menu, she would wave the corkage for us.

I have a tentative reservation for 10 at 7:30pm.

Let me know what you guys want to do. I'll tally up the votes.

Edited for clairification.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 04:35 Tue 21 Oct 2008

g-man wrote:or if we order something(s) of like value on the menu, she would wave the corkage for us.

That's... a lot of steak! But being raised in Nebraska, I'm up to the challenge. BRING ON THE RED MEAT!