1963 Sandeman
- uncle tom
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1963 Sandeman vintage port
An odd bottle of no known provenance, decanted Dec 23rd.
What a hot tired dismal wine this was, both at D + 6hrs and again at D + 30hrs, when I had hoped it might have come round a little - but in vain..
(it was then drunk out of its misery!)
Somewhere in the ruins of this juice, their had probably been a decent bottle once..
One of the least impressive bottles of the year - no real enjoyment to be found..
Score 1-0
Tom
What a hot tired dismal wine this was, both at D + 6hrs and again at D + 30hrs, when I had hoped it might have come round a little - but in vain..
(it was then drunk out of its misery!)
Somewhere in the ruins of this juice, their had probably been a decent bottle once..
One of the least impressive bottles of the year - no real enjoyment to be found..
Score 1-0
Tom
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
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Re: Sandeman 1963 vintage port
Tom,
Was this bottle in reasonable condition? Reviews of this wine seem to vary quite a lot and I wonder whether there is any correlation between the condition of the cork or where it was bottled and how well it has matured?
Was this bottle in reasonable condition? Reviews of this wine seem to vary quite a lot and I wonder whether there is any correlation between the condition of the cork or where it was bottled and how well it has matured?
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Re: Sandeman 1963 vintage port
Sandeman (and, indeed, Noval) are in my experience very variable ports from the 1963 vintage. I've had great bottles of both and also bottles of both that performed the way that Tom has just described. In my experience, it's difficult to predict how any particular bottle will perform.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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Re: Sandeman 1963 vintage port
Jacob,
It was English bottled, level VTS and had a sound cork, so no major cause for concern..
Tom
It was English bottled, level VTS and had a sound cork, so no major cause for concern..
Tom
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
Re: Sandeman 1963 vintage port
By whom?uncle tom wrote:It was English bottled
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: Sandeman 1963 vintage port
We had a great bottle of this at the October off-line at The Bell - did anybody take any notes at all?
Port is basically a red drink
Re: Sandeman 1963 vintage port
Wasn't that a Sandeman 66?KillerB wrote:We had a great bottle of this at the October off-line at The Bell - did anybody take any notes at all?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: Sandeman 1963 vintage port
It was the 1960 Sandeman VP, bottled by BB&R (as was stamped on the cork, yet had no mention of that on the label which was odd). It appeared to have been a fairly recent release, possibly from their collection if they have one, as it had a newer label and the wax top didn't look all that old. Or it could have been bought back by the Sandeman company some years ago and recently re-released. Either way it was stunningly good bottle considering most 1960's are on the downhill decline now.DRT wrote:Wasn't that a Sandeman 66?KillerB wrote:We had a great bottle of this at the October off-line at The Bell - did anybody take any notes at all?
Re: Sandeman 1963 vintage port
Actually, Alex K. is correct. We did have the 1963 Sandeman and it was the third bottle in our lineup, which followed directly after the 1927 Fonseca. The 1960 Sandeman VP which we also enjoyed that night at The Bell, was served 7th of the 12 notes I have.
My notes on the Sandeman 1963 for that evening reflect a very good showing. Dark ruby in color, herbal/minty, some strawberry and spirit on the nose as well. At peak but not over-the-hill like other bottles in recent years. This was a BB&R bottling. I gave it 91 points and blathered on a bit more in my notebook.
My notes on the Sandeman 1963 for that evening reflect a very good showing. Dark ruby in color, herbal/minty, some strawberry and spirit on the nose as well. At peak but not over-the-hill like other bottles in recent years. This was a BB&R bottling. I gave it 91 points and blathered on a bit more in my notebook.
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Re: Sandeman 1963 vintage port
Don't know, but was in the typical English green glass '60's bottle.By whom?It was English bottled
Tom
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill