Does all this mean that I missed 2 apostrophe's or just one?AHB wrote:I just did the same thing!JacobH wrote:I just spent far too long puzzling over why jdaw1 would prefer ‟1815’s” to ‟1815s”...jdaw1 wrote:[url=http://theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=22499#p22499]Here[/url] DRT wrote:I dont have nearly enough 1815s
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"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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At least one (don't) with the 1815's apostrophe being optional and dependant on the convention you would like to follow (as in, wines of 1815 or the bottles with 1815 written on them).
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
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JDAW: do you want to explain the rules about not reacting to intentionally laid traps or should I?AHB wrote:At least one (don't) with the 1815's apostrophe being optional and dependant on the convention you would like to follow (as in, wines of 1815 or the bottles with 1815 written on them).
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But I didn't react to the intentionally laid trap, did I? I just answered the question and ignored the trap - didn't I?DRT wrote:JDAW: do you want to explain the rules about not reacting to intentionally laid traps or should I?AHB wrote:At least one (don't) with the 1815's apostrophe being optional and dependant on the convention you would like to follow (as in, wines of 1815 or the bottles with 1815 written on them).
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
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My post should have been ignored completely. Thats the law.AHB wrote:But I didn't react to the intentionally laid trap, did I? I just answered the question and ignored the trap - didn't I?DRT wrote:JDAW: do you want to explain the rules about not reacting to intentionally laid traps or should I?AHB wrote:At least one (don't) with the 1815's apostrophe being optional and dependant on the convention you would like to follow (as in, wines of 1815 or the bottles with 1815 written on them).
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Today I was reprimanded for poor punctuation use, in German, by Somebody fluent in that language. Everybody gets a free indulgence on me.
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The back label of a bottle of 1992 Tuke Holdsworth LBV wrote:Tuke Holdsworth is an old and well established Port's brand.
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Not quite an apostrophe crime merely a general failure to know that no crime had been committed.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=22962#p22962]Here[/url] DRT wrote:it toppled over and broke its neck![]()
Derek
Note: Possible apostrophe crime "its". I never can remember that one.
Reminder:
- it’s = it is;
- its = possessive.
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I've spent the last few days trying to work out a good way of solving this as if it were a cryptic crossword clue. If only the word "remember" could be something else!Glenn E. wrote:Just remember: it's backwards.
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Andy V omits an apostrophe that’s not a new one.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=23169#p23169]Here[/url] Andy V wrote:now thats a new one
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Darn, and I was doing so good staying out of crime 

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[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=23677#p23677]Here[/url] DRT wrote:So, who's going to do the database of Colheita's?
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With the reducing frequency of posts on this thread by JDAW, either we're getting better or he has less spare time on his hands.
I wonder which it is?
I wonder which it is?
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
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You’re getting better. Even DRT!
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Thats because I'm trying really hard.jdaw1 wrote:You’re getting better. Even DRT!
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The sentiment, expressed of ale and bitter and port, is admirable, but the punctuation less so.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=23994#p23994]Here[/url] benread wrote:The drink's of a gentleman!
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Whilst it may not make much sense, the grammar is not necessarily incorrect, as it could deabbreviate into: ‟the drink is of a gentlemen”.jdaw1 wrote:The sentiment, expressed of ale and bitter and port, is admirable, but the punctuation less so.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=23994#p23994]Here[/url] benread wrote:The drink's of a gentleman!
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This is a mistake that I make too often. Not an apostrophe crime Andy V is a policeman but, as a punctuation crime, near enough to be posted here. I’m so accustomed to ending sentences in a full stop (translation: period), that I do so even for questions. I have sympathy with this error, but not so much that I didn’t post.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=24614#p24614]Here[/url] Andy V wrote:Tom how many actual 2007 cask samples have you had.
Attentive readers might catch me. Those who do should post here and feel smug.
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There are 5 hours left until dawn. I will search "jdaw1"+"." now and report back later.jdaw1 wrote:Attentive readers might catch me. Those who do should post here and feel smug.
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But would Derek recognise a question-mark error? Maybe we shall know by dawn.
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.jdaw1 wrote:But would Derek recognise a question-mark error? Maybe we shall know by dawn.
Ok - I'll give up and go to bed.
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Can I go back and add a "?" instead 

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Speaking of Andy, it used to be like nails on a chalkboard everytime I'd say him write, "yeap" as I had only known of the spelling for this slang of "yes" ... as "yep" but never wanted to correct him. Then one day, with nothing better to do, I went on to Google and plugged in Yeap and found this:
From - The Urban Dictionary: yeap - 3 definitions - yea + yup = yeap
So, I never take the officer to task.

From - The Urban Dictionary: yeap - 3 definitions - yea + yup = yeap
So, I never take the officer to task.
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In general, absolutely correct not to challenge the officer. ‟Yes officer!”Roy Hersh wrote:So, I never take the officer to task.
But if the officer is asking a question, and you don’t answer it, you won’t like the consequences. And if he isn’t asking a question, and, impertinently, you do answer it, things won’t be much better. So the officer’s question marks are particularly important.
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Yeah, and don't you two forget thatIn general, absolutely correct not to challenge the officer. ‟Yes officer!”





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Andy speaks the truth!
In the US, at least, anything you say to a police officer can be used against you in court. The reverse, unfortunately, is not true - NOTHING that you say to the police officer can be used to HELP you.
So answer the officer's relevant* questions politely, but say nothing else.
* "Do you know how fast you were driving?" is not relevant at the time of the traffic stop. It's a trap. Simply look at the officer and blink innocently like you didn't understand the question.
In the US, at least, anything you say to a police officer can be used against you in court. The reverse, unfortunately, is not true - NOTHING that you say to the police officer can be used to HELP you.
So answer the officer's relevant* questions politely, but say nothing else.
* "Do you know how fast you were driving?" is not relevant at the time of the traffic stop. It's a trap. Simply look at the officer and blink innocently like you didn't understand the question.
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‟Officer, I am sure that I was driving in a manner that was safe and courteous to other road users.”Glenn E. wrote:* "Do you know how fast you were driving?" is not relevant at the time of the traffic stop. It's a trap. Simply look at the officer and blink innocently like you didn't understand the question.
Lying to an officer rarely makes friends. Saying something allows the officer to hear an English accent might be worth a go.
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I always say "Why was I pulled over? I thought I was going the speed limit"Glenn E. wrote:Andy speaks the truth!
In the US, at least, anything you say to a police officer can be used against you in court. The reverse, unfortunately, is not true - NOTHING that you say to the police officer can be used to HELP you.
So answer the officer's relevant* questions politely, but say nothing else.
* "Do you know how fast you were driving?" is not relevant at the time of the traffic stop. It's a trap. Simply look at the officer and blink innocently like you didn't understand the question.
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In one local municipality here in Washington that could get you slapped with "Inattention to Driving" which carries a $250 fine. What? You admitted that you didn't know you were speeding, ergo you weren't paying attention.g-man wrote:I always say "Why was I pulled over? I thought I was going the speed limit"
Seriously. Anything you say can be used against you if presented (im)properly. So don't say anything that you aren't required to say. In fact, one traffic attorney out here has the following printed on the back of her business cards for her clients to have handy just in case:
To Law Enforcement:
1. I have provided you with my driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance;
2. I will not be answering any questions or making any statements;
3. I will not be volunteering to perform field sobriety tests, or blowing in a PBT; but I will blow in a BAC machine at the station if you have probable cause to arrest me.
4. If I am not under arrest, I wish to leave, otherwise I wish to speak to my lawyer immediately.
Glenn Elliott
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Not an apostrophe crime, but to avoid hijacking Roy’s hijack, posted here.
Guessing that ‟JDW” is JDAW is me, I think either is acceptable. Sogrape itself, a singular entity; or the management of Sogrape, being a plurality of people.[url=http://theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=25011#p25011]Here[/url] Roy Hersh wrote:Tom also wrote:Sogrape are (... is ... calling JDW for judgementIt's easy to presume that Sogrape are just too greedy, and would rather forego the business than compete with the Symingtons and TFP; but given that they sell a lot of Ruby to France, which is the most meagre market from a profit standpoint, that doesn't stack up..) too greedy you say?
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Sogrape are too greedy ... just sounds wrong. I like "is" better in that sentence. YMMV.
Thank you for your esteemed opinion Mr. Wiseman!

Thank you for your esteemed opinion Mr. Wiseman!
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I was thinking that it’s almost time for a G-breve: Äž, the lowercase version of which is found in the name of the Turkish prime minister. (And that’s ignoring Andy’s wrong tense.)[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=25323#p25323]Here[/url] Andy V wrote:Whats the next accent you've got line up?
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Sogrape is an entity, the management is an entity, 'Sogrape is too greedy' is correct (from a grammatical point of view, I have no idea about the reality).
This can be confirmed by considering a group structure, I go back a long way so I will take The Skids. If you say 'The Skids are Scottish', this is acceptable because the plural implies that each member is an individual 'Skid', but 'The Skids is a Scottish band' is also acceptable because we are dealing with an entity of the band. 'Ultravox is an electronic band' is correct as we are dealing with an entity whilst 'Ultravox are electronic' is just wrong, in so many ways.
The link, for those that are interested, is that Midge Ure is also Scottish and produced a Skids track. I know you don't care but humour me.
This can be confirmed by considering a group structure, I go back a long way so I will take The Skids. If you say 'The Skids are Scottish', this is acceptable because the plural implies that each member is an individual 'Skid', but 'The Skids is a Scottish band' is also acceptable because we are dealing with an entity of the band. 'Ultravox is an electronic band' is correct as we are dealing with an entity whilst 'Ultravox are electronic' is just wrong, in so many ways.
The link, for those that are interested, is that Midge Ure is also Scottish and produced a Skids track. I know you don't care but humour me.
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That's what happens when I post sober...must have more Port before typingjdaw1 wrote:I was thinking that it’s almost time for a G-breve: Äž, the lowercase version of which is found in the name of the Turkish prime minister. (And that’s ignoring Andy’s wrong tense.)[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=25323#p25323]Here[/url] Andy V wrote:Whats the next accent you've got line up?

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Does this mean that you will start up a new thread called "Äž - G-breve crimes"? I don't anticipate that it will grow very quickly.jdaw1 wrote:I was thinking that it’s almost time for a G-breve: Äž...
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
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It might grow with a discussion about how quickly it will grow.
Hence my use of this thread for general pedantic errors of a grammatical or typographic nature, especially apostrophe crimes.
Hence my use of this thread for general pedantic errors of a grammatical or typographic nature, especially apostrophe crimes.
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Annoyance. The US Immigration people, currently in possession of things relating to my Green Card, have written requesting further ‟evidence of a good faith marriage”. Is that really what they want? Proof that we are raising our children in a religious manner, and that our marriage is in other ways ‟good”? Church every Sunday, prayers every night. No hard liquor. How strange. One might have expected, in a less ecclesiastical country, ‟evidence of a good-faith marriage”. Which would be completely different.
I have not drawn the attention of the INS to this error.
I have not drawn the attention of the INS to this error.
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Would two children be sufficent evidence?! Do they require you to send them the evidence or just evidence of it?!
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One could suggest that this, in itself, is an act of good-faithjdaw1 wrote:I have not drawn the attention of the INS to this error.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
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Well, it might have been an act of good faith (or a good-faith act), but it wasn’t. Rather, it suggests that I fear vindictiveness.AHB wrote:an act of good-faith
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Perhaps it is a symptom of an overly-literal translation of the phrase bona fide?jdaw1 wrote:Annoyance. The US Immigration people, currently in possession of things relating to my Green Card, have written requesting further ‟evidence of a good faith marriage”. Is that really what they want? Proof that we are raising our children in a religious manner, and that our marriage is in other ways ‟good”? Church every Sunday, prayers every night. No hard liquor. How strange. One might have expected, in a less ecclesiastical country, ‟evidence of a good-faith marriage”. Which would be completely different.
I have not drawn the attention of the INS to this error.
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I haven’t yet mastered typing an em-dash (‟ ”) on an iPhone.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=28334#p28334]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:There are Wisemans in many towns - not particularly that one. So no.
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You must be desolated.jdaw1 wrote:I haven’t yet mastered typing an em-dash (‟ ”) on an iPhone.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=28334#p28334]Here[/url] jdaw1 wrote:There are Wisemans in many towns - not particularly that one. So no.
Port is basically a red drink
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[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=28727#p28727]Here[/url] DRT wrote:OK - AHBs guess is too far in the past.
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There are at least three apostrophe crimes in this even allowing for the etymologically dodgy new-fangled singular ‟kudo”.[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=29562#p29562]Here[/url] Andy V wrote:The Malvedos blog is wonderful! I've posted many times about it on. The Symington's, Miles Edlmann, Henry Shotton, and the rest of the Symington staff are doing a great job of updating it several times a day. Talk about get current up to date information from the front lines.
Many kudo's go to the Symington's for keeping it focused for us uber Port geeks to enjoy
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Someone has to keep you on your toes



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[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=30057#p30057]Here[/url] DRT wrote:However, the 1970 was quite simply "not ready" and showed much younger in comparison to it's not much older siblings.
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Although not an apostrophe crime, I feel disappointed that jdaw1 hasn't picked up on the three references to "daylight savings time" in this thread.
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Not an apostrophe crime and not grammatically incorrect as savings can be made. Where you are going to put your daylight savings and whether they will accrue interest is another matter.JacobH wrote:Although not an apostrophe crime, I feel disappointed that jdaw1 hasn't picked up on the three references to "daylight savings time" in this thread.
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