Summer offline in The Netherlands - 9 July 2010

RonnieRoots · Post by **RonnieRoots** » 14:45 Mon 14 Jun 2010

Joost wrote:Hi Ronald,

Jeroen will attend as well! I assume his contribution will be revealed soon...

Santé,
Joost

Good! Please tell him we're still short of a 1948.

RonnieRoots · Post by **RonnieRoots** » 10:09 Tue 15 Jun 2010

Jeroen and Thijs (both regulars on the Dutch wine board) have also confirmed their attendance. Updated list:

Definite attendees:
- LadyR
- RonnieRoots
- Joost
- Sandra
- KillerB
- Smisse
- StevieCage
- Petra
- Chris
- Jeroen
- Thijs

Ports so far:

Fonseca 2003 (RonnieR / LadyR)

Fonseca 2000 (StevieC / Petra)

Fonseca 1997 (StevieC / Petra)

Guimaraens 1995 (Thijs)

Fonseca 1992 (Joost / Sandra)

Guimaraens 1988 (KillerB)

Guimaraens 1987 (Joost / Sandra)

Guimaraens 1986 (KillerB)

Fonseca 1985 (likely to be adopted by Chris)

Fonseca 1983 (Smisse)

Fonseca 1977 (Thijs)

Guimaraens 1976 (RonnieR / LadyR)

Fonseca1970 (Jeroen)

RonnieRoots · Post by **RonnieRoots** » 16:53 Sun 20 Jun 2010

Proposed planning for the evening:

Start at 6PM with some drinks and some simple but tasty dinner. Start of tasting around 7.30-8PM.
Joost has enough glasses to supply everyone with 2 glasses, which means we can taste the port in pairs. That should give us some fun comparing vintages that are likely to be somehow alike.

If anyone needs directions to Joost's house please send him a PM.

Post by **jdaw1** » 17:23 Sun 20 Jun 2010

By what names should people appear on the placemats?

RonnieRoots · Post by **RonnieRoots** » 11:26 Mon 21 Jun 2010

jdaw1 wrote:By what names should people appear on the placemats?

Thanks for making placcemats Julian. Actually, I don't know the full names of all the participants, so probably best use the handles I wrote above.

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:12 Mon 21 Jun 2010

First draft of the placemats. Comments please.

Questions:

Will you want decanter labels?
Place names (does everybody know everybody)?
Glasses could be squeezed onto two sheets if space is tight: is it?

Herman G · Post by **Herman G** » 11:07 Tue 22 Jun 2010

Very, very late, but is it still possible to attend?
I would provide the Guimaraens 1984.

Herman G

Post by **jdaw1** » 07:38 Wed 23 Jun 2010

I will not be able to change the placemats after Friday 2nd July, a week ahead of the tasting. Hence it might be better if comments, and particularly requested changes, could be received sooner rather than later.

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:40 Thu 24 Jun 2010

The tasting-note sheets have column titles:

Times (meaning decanting and drinking times);
Eye;
Nose;
Mouth;
Score.

Please translate into Dutch.

Post by **DRT** » 22:38 Thu 24 Jun 2010

Google translator says that:

Time
Appearance
Smell
Taste
Points

Translates to...

Tijd
Verschijning
Geur
Smaak
Punten

These could be used in an emergency if JDAW has to depart before a Dutch speaker confirms the precise translations.

RonnieRoots · Post by **RonnieRoots** » 07:59 Fri 25 Jun 2010

Herman G wrote:Very, very late, but is it still possible to attend?
I would provide the Guimaraens 1984.

Herman G

Hi Herman,

Of course that's possible! The Guimaraens 1984 is a lovely addition to the list and it will be great to see you again.

Ronald

RonnieRoots · Post by **RonnieRoots** » 08:02 Fri 25 Jun 2010

Hi Julian, I am on holiday now and have limited access to internet, but I will send Joost an email and ask him to have a look at the placemats. Derek's translations are spot on! Only possible change: instead of 'verschijning' you could also use 'kleur' (colour).

Herman G · Post by **Herman G** » 10:42 Fri 25 Jun 2010

Please Joost can you contact me on ipw@infoportwine.com ?

I was not able to send you a personal message.
Thanks in advance.

Joost · Post by **Joost** » 11:13 Sat 26 Jun 2010

Hi Julian,

The placemets tasting forms look great.

Some small comments:
- HermanG attends with a FG84
- No translation to Dutch necessary, please keep it in English!
- Can you reserve 2 places for 'Mystery Ports'

Furthermore I think everything is great!!!

Santé,
Joost

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:36 Sun 27 Jun 2010

Most recent draft of the placemats.

+α??, +β??;
+Herman, +FG84;
Stencil font just to please DRT.

Please check carefully and comment.

Questions:

Do you want decanter labels?
Place name sheets (does everybody know everybody)?

Conversation about stencil fonts was moved to here by DRT.

RonnieRoots · Post by **RonnieRoots** » 13:12 Mon 28 Jun 2010

Decanter labels can be useful so yes please. I don't think seAting arrangements will be necessary.

Post by **jdaw1** » 07:23 Tue 29 Jun 2010

In a new thread entitled [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4105]Stencil Fonts[/url] DRT wrote:Split from Summer offline in The Netherlands - 9 July 2010 by DRT.

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:21 Tue 29 Jun 2010

Most recent draft of the placemats.

Reverting to Times New Roman Bold, whilst Stencil is discussed elsewhere (and on typophile.com).

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 12:43 Wed 30 Jun 2010

Ronald,

would you happen to have a space for me and a friend of mine. I might be able to make it, but need to know if a participation is still possible.

Axel

RonnieRoots · Post by **RonnieRoots** » 13:52 Wed 30 Jun 2010

Axel P wrote:Ronald,

would you happen to have a space for me and a friend of mine. I might be able to make it, but need to know if a participation is still possible.

Axel

most certainly! I've sent you a PM. It seems that we are with 14 now, that's a full house.

RonnieRoots · Post by **RonnieRoots** » 13:55 Wed 30 Jun 2010

Updated list:

Definite attendees:
- LadyR
- RonnieRoots
- Joost
- Sandra
- KillerB
- Smisse
- StevieCage
- Petra
- Chris
- Jeroen
- Thijs
- Herman G
- Axel
- Axel +1

Ports so far:

Fonseca 2003 (RonnieR / LadyR)
Fonseca 2000 (StevieC / Petra)
Fonseca 1997 (StevieC / Petra)
Guimaraens 1995 (Thijs)
Fonseca 1992 (Joost / Sandra)
Guimaraens 1988 (KillerB)
Guimaraens 1987 (Joost / Sandra)
Guimaraens 1986 (KillerB)
Fonseca 1985 (likely to be adopted by Chris)
Guimaraens 1984 (Herman) (edit by jdaw1)
Fonseca 1983 (Smisse)
Fonseca 1977 (Thijs)
Guimaraens 1976 (RonnieR / LadyR)
Fonseca1970 (Jeroen)

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Post by **jdaw1** » 14:41 Wed 30 Jun 2010

Axel: for the placemats, what is the name of your +1? And will your presence imply more port if so, what?

RonnieRoots: your most recent list omitted Herman’s FG84.

Post by **jdaw1** » 16:10 Wed 30 Jun 2010

Most recent draft of the placemats.

+Axel;
+Axel’s +1.

RonnieRoots · Post by **RonnieRoots** » 16:23 Wed 30 Jun 2010

jdaw1 wrote:RonnieRoots: your most recent list omitted Herman’s FG84.

Yes I noticed that but somehow my iPod didn't allow me to view the bottom half of the quote. Could you edit and add? Thanks!

Post by **jdaw1** » 16:37 Wed 30 Jun 2010

Ronnie: fixed.

Most recent draft of the placemats.

Axel’s +1 given the name ‟Martin”.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 15:51 Fri 02 Jul 2010

Congrats to the Netherlands. What a fantastic game.

Axel

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 19:25 Sun 04 Jul 2010

Please put down the following on the TN-sheets:

Fonseca 1994
Fonseca Guimaraens 1991
Fonseca 1975

These (and some more) are the ones that I will bring

Axel

StevieCage · Post by **StevieCage** » 20:15 Sun 04 Jul 2010

I dropped off the '97 & '00 at Joost's yesterday - really looking forward to friday; See you all then! Nice contributions, Axel...

Joost · Post by **Joost** » 22:01 Sun 04 Jul 2010

Hi Axel,

That sounds really great! You're really filling the gaps... Now we have almost have the last 40 years of Fonseca complete, what are we still missing and can we complete?
I think Fonseca 1980 and 2007?

Santé,
Joost

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 07:18 Mon 05 Jul 2010

80 is one of the worst Vintage Ports I have ever had. We had an 80s Horizontal at AHBs house and I brought a 80 Fonseca Magnum and we had additionally one normal bottle and all were way below Fonseca standards. So there is no need to bring this.

But I think we are missing the two 05s and 04 as well, arent we? I do have all bottles here (04 Guimaraens, 05 Panascal and Guimaraens and 07). Is anyone really about to get them complete? Anyone willing to adopt?

Axel

Joost · Post by **Joost** » 08:00 Mon 05 Jul 2010

No need for completeness. The serie is already great!

I have Guimaraens 05 available, if necessary...

Santé,
Joost

smisse · Post by **smisse** » 15:35 Wed 07 Jul 2010

Gents,

Unfortunately I will not be able to join Friday afterall. I'll only be coming home from Hamburg this Friday evening

Apologises for any inconvenience caused. I was actually really looking forward to the tasting.

Dries

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 21:44 Wed 07 Jul 2010

Thats a pity, Dries. I thought we d share some nice port together after such a lousy game from our football team.

Axel

RonnieRoots · Post by **RonnieRoots** » 13:40 Thu 08 Jul 2010

Indeed a pity Dries, I was looking forward to meeting you.

Axel, it would have been great to have a Netherlands / Germany final...

StevieCage · Post by **StevieCage** » 10:18 Sat 10 Jul 2010

Petra and I had a great time - what a nice offline: thanks all!

Post by **jdaw1** » 10:43 Sat 10 Jul 2010

I'm accessing

from an iPhone, so would much rather not create the TN threads myself. Please could somebody else cope?

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 11:23 Sat 10 Jul 2010

What a perfect combination of wonderful hosts, perfectly made food and a very good lineup of Port bottles. Thanks Ronnie and Joost for organising all this and inviting us.

Furthermore thanks as well for not bringing football to the table. I really enjoyed just tasting and chatting about the port. .

Julian: I will post a Review thread as soon as someone explains to me how to link the TNs to the Review thread. I just wrote an email to Alex K.

Thanks again for an amazing evening with the soccer world champions

Axel

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KillerB · Post by **KillerB** » 10:31 Sun 11 Jul 2010

Fabulous day, evening, night. Thank you to Joost and Sandra for being such wonderful hosts and providing the baby with the biggest hair I've ever seen - Noor's adorable.
Thanks to Ronald and Maartje for coming over and making it an event and providing the new Romeo of Utrecht, Luka. Thanks to Karen (spelling) and Chris for the fabulous food and thanks to Jeroen and the lovely Leontien, who I didn't even see this time, for providing me with a couch to sleep on.

Great to see everybody again. Food was excellent, Ports were great and the company absolutely outstanding.

RonnieRoots · Post by **RonnieRoots** » 17:30 Sun 11 Jul 2010

Just before the WC final I have a bit of time to post from my iPod so I'll make it short. Thanks all for making it a great evening, and especially Joost and Sandra for their wonderful hospitality and Karen and Chris for the lovely food. Axel, thank you for providing the 08 samples and polos! I'll post my TN's when we get back from holiday mid August.

Post by **jdaw1** » 07:13 Mon 12 Jul 2010

jdaw1 wrote:I'm accessing from an iPhone, so would much rather not create the TN threads myself. Please could somebody else cope?

Experience has shown that if threads aren't made TNs are less likely to be posted. Please could somebody with a real computer cope?

KillerB · Post by **KillerB** » 12:22 Mon 12 Jul 2010

jdaw1 wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:I'm accessing from an iPhone, so would much rather not create the TN threads myself. Please could somebody else cope?
Experience has shown that if threads aren't made TNs are less likely to be posted. Please could somebody with a real computer cope?

Already done, yesterday as it happens - here's the Review thread

Post by **jdaw1** » 13:41 Mon 12 Jul 2010

KillerB wrote:Already done, yesterday as it happens - here's the Review thread

Thank you.

KillerB · Post by **KillerB** » 14:26 Mon 12 Jul 2010

jdaw1 wrote:
KillerB wrote:Already done, yesterday as it happens - here's the Review thread
Thank you.

No need for thanks, you can't be expected to do it for all tastings. I've sorted a spreadsheet that can be used with an SQL download for future reference. If somebody posts the TN threads I can knock the links out in about a minute (maybe two).