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Tomorrow I will be picking up a case that rejoices with the title:

"Burmester's Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo 1992 vintage port"

Including spaces, some 67 characters

- Can anyone better that?

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uncle tom wrote:Can anyone better that?
‟Burmester’s Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo 1992 Vintage Port, in magnum”?
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Julian was close but ...

‟Burmester’s Quinta Nova de Nossa Senhora do Carmo 1992 Vintage Port, in double magnum”?
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We'll be talking Nebuchadnezzars soon.. :D
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Isn't he dead already? :roll:
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Roy Hersh wrote:Isn't he dead already? :roll:
That’s why we should have a Methuselah instead ;-)

Although I’m sure some of the named rubies have longer names, a close second must be Ramos Pinto’s Quinta do Retiro Novo Twenty-Year-Old Tawny Port at 65 characters!
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Except that they don't use a possessive in the name, it's Quinta do Bom Retiro, and they use the numeral 20 in the name not the spelled-out word. It's one of my favorite Ports so I thought of it for this thread, too.

Ramos Pinto Quinta do Bom Retiro 20 Year Old Tawny Port does still have 55 characters though!
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Pick a port, vintage 2011, and add the words ‟Produced to celebrate the wedding of His Royal Highness Prince William of Wales and Miss Catherine Middleton, now Her Royal Highness, Princess William of Wales, at Westminster Abbey on Friday 29 April 2011”.
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now Her Royal Highness, Princess William of Wales
- Is that official?

He would normally be made a Duke upon marriage, so she will become a Duchess..

..of what, though, is the question - all the good ones are taken!

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One of the newspapers suggested Clarence was most likely, though advocated Albany since that includes St Andrews, where they met...
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Glenn E. wrote:Except that they don't use a possessive in the name, it's Quinta do Bom Retiro, and they use the numeral 20 in the name not the spelled-out word. It's one of my favorite Ports so I thought of it for this thread, too.

Ramos Pinto Quinta do Bom Retiro 20 Year Old Tawny Port does still have 55 characters though!
In fairness, I was simply copying the format of Tom’s: I very much doubt Burmester used the possessive on their bottle and it probably said Vinho do Porto or Vintage Porto, rather than Vintage Port...
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JacobH wrote:One of the newspapers suggested Clarence was most likely, though advocated Albany since that includes St Andrews, where they met...
Wikipedia wrote:In recent years, several royal princes who did not already have a title were given one upon marriage, including Prince Andrew, who was created Duke of York when he married in 1986. In a break with precedent Prince Edward was created Earl of Wessex; at the same time it was announced that he would be given the title Duke of Edinburgh when that title, currently held by his father, reverts to the Crown. According to The Daily Telegraph, it is expected that William will be offered a dukedom on his marriage, allowing his wife to be styled as a duchess, In an interview with This is Sussex, Charles Kidd, editor of Debrett's said that the title most likely to be bestowed on Prince William on the eve of his wedding was the Duke of Sussex, although he added that other available titles were the Duke of Cambridge or the Duke of Clarence.

In Letters Patent dated 21 August 1996 (shortly after the divorce of the Prince and Princess of Wales) it was acknowledged that "by convention the wife of the son of a sovereign of these Realms the wife of a son of a son of a Sovereign and the wife of the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales is entitled to the style title or attribute of Royal Highness". If William were not given a title then, after the wedding, Middleton would, by convention, be known as Her Royal Highness, Princess William of Wales taking her husband's first name on marriage (as with Princess Michael of Kent). If however William is given a title, she would be known as "Her Royal Highness the Duchess [or other rank if appropriate] of N".

In December 2010, it was reported in The Daily Telegraph that William did not wish to receive a dukedom, preferring to remain simply a prince. This was suggested as causing a dilema for the Queen, because of the question regarding the title Kate will be known as after the marriage.
(Not my typo, wikipedia’s, since fixed by me.)
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jdaw1 wrote:
Wikipedia wrote:In recent years, several royal princes who did not already have a title were given one upon marriage, including Prince Andrew, who was created Duke of York when he married in 1986. In a break with precedent Prince Edward was created Earl of Wessex; at the same time it was announced that he would be given the title Duke of Edinburgh when that title, currently held by his father, reverts to the Crown. According to The Daily Telegraph, it is expected that William will be offered a dukedom on his marriage, allowing his wife to be styled as a duchess, In an interview with This is Sussex, Charles Kidd, editor of Debrett's said that the title most likely to be bestowed on Prince William on the eve of his wedding was the Duke of Sussex, although he added that other available titles were the Duke of Cambridge or the Duke of Clarence.
Having read the underlying article, it seems complete speculation: there doesn’t seem to be any convention as to which traditional title he would take.
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Wikipedia wrote:In December 2010, it was reported in The Daily Telegraph that William did not wish to receive a dukedom, preferring to remain simply a prince. This was suggested as causing a dilema for the Queen, because of the question regarding the title Kate will be known as after the marriage.
I very much doubt there’s any truth in the story, since Charles is inevitably called ‟Prince”, despite his various dukedoms. I though the main purpose of giving out the title was to sort out what his wife would be called.
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jdaw1 wrote:
JacobH wrote:One of the newspapers suggested Clarence was most likely, though advocated Albany since that includes St Andrews, where they met...
Wikipedia wrote:In recent years, several royal princes who did not already have a title were given one upon marriage, including Prince Andrew, who was created Duke of York when he married in 1986. In a break with precedent Prince Edward was created Earl of Wessex; at the same time it was announced that he would be given the title Duke of Edinburgh when that title, currently held by his father, reverts to the Crown. According to The Daily Telegraph, it is expected that William will be offered a dukedom on his marriage, allowing his wife to be styled as a duchess, In an interview with This is Sussex, Charles Kidd, editor of Debrett's said that the title most likely to be bestowed on Prince William on the eve of his wedding was the Duke of Sussex, although he added that other available titles were the Duke of Cambridge or the Duke of Clarence.

In Letters Patent dated 21 August 1996 (shortly after the divorce of the Prince and Princess of Wales) it was acknowledged that "by convention the wife of the son of a sovereign of these Realms the wife of a son of a son of a Sovereign and the wife of the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales is entitled to the style title or attribute of Royal Highness". If William were not given a title then, after the wedding, Middleton would, by convention, be known as Her Royal Highness, Princess William of Wales taking her husband's first name on marriage (as with Princess Michael of Kent). If however William is given a title, she would be known as "Her Royal Highness the Duchess [or other rank if appropriate] of N".

In December 2010, it was reported in The Daily Telegraph that William did not wish to receive a dukedom, preferring to remain simply a prince. This was suggested as causing a dilema for the Queen, because of the question regarding the title Kate will be known as after the marriage.
(Not my typo, wikipedia’s, since fixed by me.)
Kate Middleton gave an interview to a local paper (which I will find online, if I ever get the time) in which she was quoted as saying that she did not believe that she needed a title and that if a title was considered necessary by "the public" then she rather liked the old title of Prince Consort - which I thought showed a nice sense of irreverent humour.

Have we not strayed into the realms of meaningless drivel?
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Have we not strayed into the realms of meaningless drivel?
Not if he becomes "Duke of Clarence" :D
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The Press Secretary to The Queen, in [url=http://www.royal.gov.uk/LatestNewsandDiary/Pressreleases/2011/Announcementoftitles29April2011.aspx]a statement on 29 April 2011[/url], wrote:The Queen has today been pleased to confer a Dukedom on Prince William of Wales. His titles will be Duke of Cambridge, Earl of Strathearn and Baron Carrickfergus.

Prince William thus becomes His Royal Highness The Duke of Cambridge and Miss Catherine Middleton on marriage will become Her Royal Highness The Duchess of Cambridge.
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