NY : March 17th ACPT: A full decade of Taylors
NY : March 17th ACPT: A full decade of Taylors
NY : March 17th ACPT
6pm : A full decade of Taylors
mbibers:
Glenn
Jay Hack
Sandy
Ruth
Josh
Jeff + 2
lamont huxley
John B
Chris
Chris + 1?
Location
http://www.northsquareny.com/
103 Waverly Place,
New York, NY 10011
Time: March 17th, 6:00pm
Costs: BYOB
but dinner should be $100/all in
Will post menus shortly.
Theme: Back half of the 60s taylor tasting + TBD
Wines in attendance
Veuve Cliquot 1978 (G-man)
Taylor 1963 (josh/chris)
Taylor 1965 (Ruth)
Taylor 1966 (Sandy)
Taylor 1967 (John B)
Taylor 1968 (Glenn)
Taylor 1969 (G-man + 2)
Taylor 1970 (Chris/Josh)
Taylor 1977 (Chris + 1)
Taylor 1983 (Jay Hack)
Taylor 1985 (Jay Hack via josh)
Taylor 1994 (Lamont Huxley)
6pm : A full decade of Taylors
mbibers:
Glenn
Jay Hack
Sandy
Ruth
Josh
Jeff + 2
lamont huxley
John B
Chris
Chris + 1?
Location
http://www.northsquareny.com/
103 Waverly Place,
New York, NY 10011
Time: March 17th, 6:00pm
Costs: BYOB
but dinner should be $100/all in
Will post menus shortly.
Theme: Back half of the 60s taylor tasting + TBD
Wines in attendance
Veuve Cliquot 1978 (G-man)
Taylor 1963 (josh/chris)
Taylor 1965 (Ruth)
Taylor 1966 (Sandy)
Taylor 1967 (John B)
Taylor 1968 (Glenn)
Taylor 1969 (G-man + 2)
Taylor 1970 (Chris/Josh)
Taylor 1977 (Chris + 1)
Taylor 1983 (Jay Hack)
Taylor 1985 (Jay Hack via josh)
Taylor 1994 (Lamont Huxley)
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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT tasting : Redux
planning on bringing something or looking to adopt?Glenn E. wrote:Original planning thread here.
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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT tasting : Redux
I can go either way. If you have some options let me know and I'll pick one.
I'll have to check my inventory but I think I have a G70 that I could bring. Or rather, that I could ship to you.
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I'll have to check my inventory but I think I have a G70 that I could bring. Or rather, that I could ship to you.
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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT tasting : Redux
Okay
I can also throw in a cockburn 70
I can also throw in a cockburn 70
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My memory fails me, I do not have a G70.
I have a 1960 Croft or several different 1977s that I could bring (including a Graham), or I could adopt an extra leaker if you have another you'd like to dispense with. I also have a couple of "extra" T70s and I'd be happy to bring one of those if they're not too passé in this crowd.
I have a 1960 Croft or several different 1977s that I could bring (including a Graham), or I could adopt an extra leaker if you have another you'd like to dispense with. I also have a couple of "extra" T70s and I'd be happy to bring one of those if they're not too passé in this crowd.

Glenn Elliott
Re: NY : March 17th ACPT tasting : Redux
As a fun little palate wetter, I'll be supplying the Grahams 6 grape and the Noval Black to be tasted along side of port.
Btw, we need to determine a location
Sushi please chime in as i'm sure our out of town guests would be open to wherever.
Btw, we need to determine a location
Sushi please chime in as i'm sure our out of town guests would be open to wherever.
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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT tasting : Redux
I will go downstairs later today to survey the situation and identify some leakers. Sadly, i don't think I have any young leakers. We'll just have to drink the old stuffGlenn E. wrote:My memory fails me, I do not have a G70.
I have a 1960 Croft or several different 1977s that I could bring (including a Graham), or I could adopt an extra leaker if you have another you'd like to dispense with. I also have a couple of "extra" T70s and I'd be happy to bring one of those if they're not too passé in this crowd.

Re: NY : March 17th ACPT tasting : Redux
location, location, locationSushiNorth wrote:I will go downstairs later today to survey the situation and identify some leakers. Sadly, i don't think I have any young leakers. We'll just have to drink the old stuffGlenn E. wrote:My memory fails me, I do not have a G70.
I have a 1960 Croft or several different 1977s that I could bring (including a Graham), or I could adopt an extra leaker if you have another you'd like to dispense with. I also have a couple of "extra" T70s and I'd be happy to bring one of those if they're not too passé in this crowd.
With only a month left, we need to reserve a place
esp since it's a saturday
If nothign comes to mind, I'll put in a call for North Square again as I liked the really private room.
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I'm fine with whatever location you decide on, and am aware that food will be $100+/person.
Re the theme - have we decided that it's going to be 'leakers'? If so, I have a '63 Cockburn I can ship in advance, but since there's two of us, I'll need to acquire or adopt another bottle.
If that's not the theme, can we decide soon, so I can acquire and ship a couple of bottles, unless adoption is an option again?
Sandy & Ruth
Re the theme - have we decided that it's going to be 'leakers'? If so, I have a '63 Cockburn I can ship in advance, but since there's two of us, I'll need to acquire or adopt another bottle.
If that's not the theme, can we decide soon, so I can acquire and ship a couple of bottles, unless adoption is an option again?
Sandy & Ruth
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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT tasting : Redux
I'm also fine with whatever location the locals choose, as their choice will be far better informed than any I might make. North Square sounds fine to me, and like Sandy I'm fine with $100-ish per head for food. The incremental cost of even doubling the Port budget doesn't make a significant impact on the cost of my trip - we're staying at the Brooklyn Bridge Marriott for the Crossword Puzzle Tournament, after all.
I'd be happy to adopt a leaker or pre-ship one of my bottles. Adopting a leaker would certainly be easier if you guys have enough of them to go around.
I'd be happy to adopt a leaker or pre-ship one of my bottles. Adopting a leaker would certainly be easier if you guys have enough of them to go around.
Glenn Elliott
Re: NY : March 17th ACPT tasting : Redux
I acutally don'tGlenn E. wrote:I'm also fine with whatever location the locals choose, as their choice will be far better informed than any I might make. North Square sounds fine to me, and like Sandy I'm fine with $100-ish per head for food. The incremental cost of even doubling the Port budget doesn't make a significant impact on the cost of my trip - we're staying at the Brooklyn Bridge Marriott for the Crossword Puzzle Tournament, after all.
I'd be happy to adopt a leaker or pre-ship one of my bottles. Adopting a leaker would certainly be easier if you guys have enough of them to go around.
the 60 is my only leaker
But we do have an emerging 60s theme going on
so let's keep with stuff from the 60s.
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Okay all of the taylors have been ordered
we have the 65,66,67,68 and 69 for this tasting
we have the 65,66,67,68 and 69 for this tasting
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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT tasting : Redux
Wow -- this rapidly turned into a pretty impressive tasting. If only we had the 70... and perhaps a 63.g-man wrote:Okay all of the taylors have been ordered
we have the 65,66,67,68 and 69 for this tasting
Also, if we're going with north square, and a tasting like this, we have room for people. We might as well open it up a bit.
Re: NY : March 17th ACPT tasting : Redux
SushiNorth wrote:Wow -- this rapidly turned into a pretty impressive tasting. If only we had the 70... and perhaps a 63.g-man wrote:Okay all of the taylors have been ordered
we have the 65,66,67,68 and 69 for this tasting
Also, if we're going with north square, and a tasting like this, we have room for people. We might as well open it up a bit.
10 people already Sushi.
though
Chris hasn't replied back to me yet, so.
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Though I'm part of the 65-69 purchase, I do also have a 70 that I could contribute and ship to Jeff. There are 63s available online, but they're at least half again what we're paying for the 65-69 per bottle. 64 also exists - I have one - but I'd rather not contribute my only birthday bottle.SushiNorth wrote:Wow -- this rapidly turned into a pretty impressive tasting. If only we had the 70... and perhaps a 63.g-man wrote:Okay all of the taylors have been ordered
we have the 65,66,67,68 and 69 for this tasting
Also, if we're going with north square, and a tasting like this, we have room for people. We might as well open it up a bit.
63, 66, and 70 would be the only Taylors; the rest are Vargellas. It will be interesting to see which 67 we're getting - I have had both the Oporto 1970 bottling and a UK 1969 bottling.
Glenn Elliott
Re: NY : March 17th ACPT Taylor and friends from 60s
Would there be room for one or two Brits armed with suitable contributions beginning with T?
Nothing certain yet, but I'm working on it
Nothing certain yet, but I'm working on it

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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT Taylor and friends from 60s
\you are more than welcome to join us =)DRT wrote:Would there be room for one or two Brits armed with suitable contributions beginning with T?
Nothing certain yet, but I'm working on it
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i believe the 67 is the BBR 69 bottling.Glenn E. wrote:Though I'm part of the 65-69 purchase, I do also have a 70 that I could contribute and ship to Jeff. There are 63s available online, but they're at least half again what we're paying for the 65-69 per bottle. 64 also exists - I have one - but I'd rather not contribute my only birthday bottle.SushiNorth wrote:Wow -- this rapidly turned into a pretty impressive tasting. If only we had the 70... and perhaps a 63.g-man wrote:Okay all of the taylors have been ordered
we have the 65,66,67,68 and 69 for this tasting
Also, if we're going with north square, and a tasting like this, we have room for people. We might as well open it up a bit.
63, 66, and 70 would be the only Taylors; the rest are Vargellas. It will be interesting to see which 67 we're getting - I have had both the Oporto 1970 bottling and a UK 1969 bottling.
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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT Taylor and friends from 60s
i will qualify the private room can fit up to 24 peopleg-man wrote:\you are more than welcome to join us =)DRT wrote:Would there be room for one or two Brits armed with suitable contributions beginning with T?
Nothing certain yet, but I'm working on it
but will sit 10-14 very comfortably
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I think we're going to need a bigger boat.DRT wrote:Would there be room for one or two Brits armed with suitable contributions beginning with T?
Nothing certain yet, but I'm working on it
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Glenn E. wrote:I think we're going to need a bigger boat.

"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT Taylor and friends from 60s
Slow down, folks, don't ship just yet. Let's see what happens tomorrow at auction. We may have some interesting adds, but i need to see how it all turns out.
Re: NY : March 17th ACPT Taylor and friends from 60s
i think he meant that they may ship themselves.
in which case, auction or no, we'd love to have them
in which case, auction or no, we'd love to have them

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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT Taylor and friends from 60s
I meant that if a couple of Brits show up, including Derek, then we might need more than our usual one bottle per person. 
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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT Taylor and friends from 60s
A least one person got it, GlennGlenn E. wrote:I meant that if a couple of Brits show up, including Derek, then we might need more than our usual one bottle per person.


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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT Taylor and friends from 60s
DRT wrote:A least one person got it, GlennGlenn E. wrote:I meant that if a couple of Brits show up, including Derek, then we might need more than our usual one bottle per person.- one of my favourite movie lines of all time
wait you working your way over to NY or did i get confused?
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It's hard to figure out what that means, or whether or not you are confused. Perhaps this helps?g-man wrote:wait you working your way over to NY or did i get confused?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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I believe the correct answer is...g-man wrote:DRT wrote:A least one person got it, GlennGlenn E. wrote:I meant that if a couple of Brits show up, including Derek, then we might need more than our usual one bottle per person.- one of my favourite movie lines of all time
wait you working your way over to NY or did i get confused?
Yes.

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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT Taylor and friends from 60s
and I meant Yes, please DO ship DRT to NY. Please don't ship T70 or T63 just yet, as there's a high probability I'll have them for us in short order. More soon.Glenn E. wrote:I meant that if a couple of Brits show up, including Derek, then we might need more than our usual one bottle per person.
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ps, i do have T77, 80, and 85, but they seem well beyond the range of our tasting

Finally, I recall being asked at the #PortDay Virtual tasting about a Hooper63 in my cellar. Could someone remind me who was asking?
Re: NY : March 17th ACPT Taylor and friends from 60s
was Andy I believe.
So, i think there are also a 61 and a 64 of the taylors floating around
so if we wanted a true 60s tasting
we'd only be missing the
60, 61, 64
we have the 63, 65,66,67,68,69
So, i think there are also a 61 and a 64 of the taylors floating around
so if we wanted a true 60s tasting
we'd only be missing the
60, 61, 64
we have the 63, 65,66,67,68,69
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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT Taylor and friends from 60s
All the wines ordered and they're being shipped out tonight
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Confirmed, the T63 was acquired last night at auctiong-man wrote:was Andy I believe.
So, i think there are also a 62 and a 64 of the taylors floating around
so if we wanted a true 60s tasting
we'd only be missing the
60, 62, 64
we have the 63, 65,66,67,68,69



Now, according to someone's definition, the 60's actually go from 61-70... maybe we just need to get a 70 from WC.
Re: NY : March 17th ACPT: A full decade of Taylors
I have a "spare" T70 that I can ship to one of you guys if we want it.
I'd love to get to try a TV64... I have one but am saving it for a future birthday. Possibly my 55th. VPs from 1964 are hard to find so I have to ration mine very carefully.
I'd love to get to try a TV64... I have one but am saving it for a future birthday. Possibly my 55th. VPs from 1964 are hard to find so I have to ration mine very carefully.

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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT: A full decade of Taylors
Perhaps we can find some overseas assistance for these hard-to-find Taylors?Glenn E. wrote:I have a "spare" T70 that I can ship to one of you guys if we want it.
I'd love to get to try a TV64... I have one but am saving it for a future birthday. Possibly my 55th. VPs from 1964 are hard to find so I have to ration mine very carefully.
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That is obviously an American definition.SushiNorth wrote:according to someone's definition, the 60's actually go from 61-70
In the UK, the traditional home of Port, a "60's vertical" goes from 1912 to 2009.
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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT Taylor and friends from 60s
The (19)60s run from 1960 to 1969. The 197th decade is 1961-1970. Just in case there is any confusion about which decade we intend to celebrate, we should include both 1960 and 1970.SushiNorth wrote:Now, according to someone's definition, the 60's actually go from 61-70... maybe we just need to get a 70 from WC.

Glenn Elliott
Re: NY : March 17th ACPT Taylor and friends from 60s
As I was reading this thread, a reply was forming in my mind. Only to find that others were there long before me:
DRT wrote:In the UK, the traditional home of Port, a "60's vertical" goes from 1912 to 2009.
Glenn E. wrote:we should include both 1960 and 1970.
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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT: A full decade of Taylors
I've seen Vargellas 1961 and 1964, but never 1962.
Nice line up - I look forward to hearing about the 1968 and 1969 Vargellas, neither of which are ports that I have ever tried.
Nice line up - I look forward to hearing about the 1968 and 1969 Vargellas, neither of which are ports that I have ever tried.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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I, too, look forward to those two bottles. And also the 1965, as that is my wife's... no wait, scratch that, my wife is only 29. I have no idea what I was thinking.AHB wrote:I look forward to hearing about the 1968 and 1969 Vargellas, neither of which are ports that I have ever tried.
I looked far and wide for a Port from 1969 three years ago to give a friend for his 40th birthday, but could find nothing. So I settled on a 1967 Vargellas reasoning that at least it was bottled in 1969 and so still fit the theme.
Naturally, the bottle I acquired for him was the (rather fabulous) 1970 Oporto bottling.

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I've had the 68 too at harry's and it's amber colored but incredibly smooth after the initial heat blows off.
btw,
what are recommended decant times for these?
the 67 was a pop and pour which i thougth was good
68 was popped and decanted for an hour before we drank and that was fantastic. (i think sushi had this with me since it was on my bday)
btw,
what are recommended decant times for these?
the 67 was a pop and pour which i thougth was good
68 was popped and decanted for an hour before we drank and that was fantastic. (i think sushi had this with me since it was on my bday)
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is there room for one more attendee?
Ican bring an older talyor, a bubbly or source_-_-
lemme know if I can attend/waitlist, thx.
Ican bring an older talyor, a bubbly or source_-_-
lemme know if I can attend/waitlist, thx.
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yer in dave.
please see first post for what wines are missing
please see first post for what wines are missing
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Bottles arrived and are now standing up in the cellar for consumption
should inspect it, but i'll do it later
should inspect it, but i'll do it later
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differentdave wrote:is there room for one more attendee?
Ican bring an older talyor, a bubbly or source_-_-
lemme know if I can attend/waitlist, thx.
Did you just turn down the offer of an "older Taylor"...?!!g-man wrote:yer in dave.
please see first post for what wines are missing

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if the house doesn't have the name of fonseca in it,RAYC wrote:differentdave wrote:is there room for one more attendee?
Ican bring an older talyor, a bubbly or source_-_-
lemme know if I can attend/waitlist, thx.Did you just turn down the offer of an "older Taylor"...?!!g-man wrote:yer in dave.
please see first post for what wines are missing
the answer should always be yes =)
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You need to get out more ofteng-man wrote:if the house doesn't have the name of fonseca in it,RAYC wrote:differentdave wrote:is there room for one more attendee?
Ican bring an older talyor, a bubbly or source_-_-
lemme know if I can attend/waitlist, thx.Did you just turn down the offer of an "older Taylor"...?!!g-man wrote:yer in dave.
please see first post for what wines are missing
the answer should always be yes =)

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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT: A full decade of Taylors
Well no, not really. Jeff's carefully phrased response side-stepped the questionable offer of an older Talyor in the hopes that, upon review of the first post, an older Taylor might arrive instead.RAYC wrote:differentdave wrote:is there room for one more attendee?
Ican bring an older talyor, a bubbly or source_-_-
lemme know if I can attend/waitlist, thx.Did you just turn down the offer of an "older Taylor"...?!!g-man wrote:yer in dave.
please see first post for what wines are missing

But along those lines, didn't Josh just acquire a T63? I have a T70 that I can ship (if we do it soon) so that Josh can supply the T63.
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i dind't want to presume for josh if he'd be so generousGlenn E. wrote:Well no, not really. Jeff's carefully phrased response side-stepped the questionable offer of an older Talyor in the hopes that, upon review of the first post, an older Taylor might arrive instead.RAYC wrote:differentdave wrote:is there room for one more attendee?
Ican bring an older talyor, a bubbly or source_-_-
lemme know if I can attend/waitlist, thx.Did you just turn down the offer of an "older Taylor"...?!!g-man wrote:yer in dave.
please see first post for what wines are missing![]()
But along those lines, didn't Josh just acquire a T63? I have a T70 that I can ship (if we do it soon) so that Josh can supply the T63.

but yea, we do have bottles for adoption now.
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Re: NY : March 17th ACPT: A full decade of Taylors
You've no idea -- i've been hunting the T63osaur for a while now, it being the first truly great port I had (thanks jdaw -- it was at the anniversary tasting (la sirene), and first time i met you guys). I finally acquired two at auction, so it's a little sad to be popping it so soon. But why get em if we don't drink em, right? I haven't seen them yet, but I hope to pick them up this weekend.g-man wrote:i dind't want to presume for josh if he'd be so generousGlenn E. wrote:
But along those lines, didn't Josh just acquire a T63? I have a T70 that I can ship (if we do it soon) so that Josh can supply the T63.
but yea, we do have bottles for adoption now.
Given that it's a rather pricey bottle, perhaps someone wants to bring something a little on the lower end and we'll split the difference?