The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
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Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
London is an easier venue for me to attend than the rural no-where that is Wenden's Ambo. I would prefer a London venue, but would happily substitute TCP for the RAF Club if we were looking for a more informal venue.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
I would also find a London venue easier and it would not entail a hotel, which makes it easier to obtain a pass these days. Hotels result in Mrs Read being left to deal with two kids at both bed and breakfast time!
Ben
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Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
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Re: 2012 - The Birthday Boys' Tasting
Gentlemen...now I have emerged from the 'dark side' pretty much unscathed, so if acceptable, I declare myself available for this eventDRT wrote:The following note has been added to the main organisation post above in the interest of fairness:
Note: "Birthday Boys" have been added to the confirmed list of attendees by default but must confirm attendance no later than 31 January 2012 otherwise they might have to forfeit their place for someone on a reserve list, should such a list form between now and then.

Sadly the year of my birth did not afford the weather necessary to provide a VP so perhaps I could adopt a year close to it, but would like to take advice please.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Based on the plans above, I also have a birthday within ±6 months of the date of the event.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
RLC re-added to the attendee list.
The date remains 29 March 2012 and the venue will be in London.
The date remains 29 March 2012 and the venue will be in London.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
PS: As requested, I also confirm myself available for 29th March at a London venue! (And very likely to be thirsty!)benread wrote:I would also find a London venue easier and it would not entail a hotel, which makes it easier to obtain a pass these days. Hotels result in Mrs Read being left to deal with two kids at both bed and breakfast time!
Ben
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Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
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Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
It is time to decide what to do.
My proposal is:
Date: Thursday 29th March 2012
Venue: The Bung Hole, London
Theme!
My proposal is:
Date: Thursday 29th March 2012
Venue: The Bung Hole, London
Theme!
- Amuse-bouche: The Great International Ruby Reserve Taste-off.
- Entrée: Beer break.
- Plat principal: Bring a Port to Drink on Your Birthday.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
In which case the beer would have to be that of TBH, which should be quality-controlled in advance. I’ll take one for the team.DRT wrote:Theme!
- Amuse-bouche: The Great International Ruby Reserve Taste-off.
- Entrée: Beer break.
- Plat principal: Bring a Port to Drink on Your Birthday.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Your memory fails you because we have already done this...we had a pint of Wallop in pewter jugs...not bad as I recall.jdaw1 wrote:In which case the beer would have to be that of TBH, which should be quality-controlled in advance. I’ll take one for the team.DRT wrote:Theme!
- Amuse-bouche: The Great International Ruby Reserve Taste-off.
- Entrée: Beer break.
- Plat principal: Bring a Port to Drink on Your Birthday.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
If the Syms or TFP took one bottle from the production line, and tested just that one, would you think that sufficient quality control? Of course not. And we should also adopt the highest standards of thoroughness in quality control, even if that means ‘sacrificing’ one member of the team for that purpose. Nobly, to save others the anguish, I have volunteered myself.Cookie wrote:Your memory fails you because we have already done this...we had a pint of Wallop in pewter jugs...not bad as I recall.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Your selfless sacrifice is very much appreciated. I think it is essential that a test be performed to determine the respective merits of drinking Wallop from glass v pewter. Unfortunately this means you will have to "take two for the team". Will that be a problem?jdaw1 wrote:If the Syms or TFP took one bottle from the production line, and tested just that one, would you think that sufficient quality control? Of course not. And we should also adopt the highest standards of thoroughness in quality control, even if that means ‘sacrificing’ one member of the team for that purpose. Nobly, to save others the anguish, I have volunteered myself.Cookie wrote:Your memory fails you because we have already done this...we had a pint of Wallop in pewter jugs...not bad as I recall.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
May I be excused from the entree? Or perhaps bring my own entree?DRT wrote:
- Amuse-bouche: The Great International Ruby Reserve Taste-off.
- Entrée: Beer break.
- Plat principal: Bring a Port to Drink on Your Birthday.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
I think vegetarian entrees are available, such as apple-based sludge.AHB wrote:May I be excused from the entree? Or perhaps bring my own entree?DRT wrote:
- Amuse-bouche: The Great International Ruby Reserve Taste-off.
- Entrée: Beer break.
- Plat principal: Bring a Port to Drink on Your Birthday.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Wallop, in glass, tastes artificially carbonated. It is an acceptable beer, but partly for the reason in the previous sentence, not of the first rank.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
There has been a suggestion that six Ruby Reserves might not be enough. How large can an Amuse-bouche be before it ceases to be amusing?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
They do not necessarily have to be finished - small portions may be sufficient to make your assessment.DRT wrote:There has been a suggestion that six Ruby Reserves might not be enough. How large can an Amuse-bouche be before it ceases to be amusing?
They can then wait in the wings, ready for actions should a port emergency arise at 10.00pm or otherwise to be taken at the end of the evening by the various participants for home drinking.
Rob C.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
My GSG has arrived. I am about to perform a quality assurance test on one sixth of the delivery.
I visited 3 Fleet Street last week to purchase the Churchill Reserve. Unfortunately, it has been a sandwich shop for the past two years since the wine merchant that once resided there closed down.
I visited 3 Fleet Street last week to purchase the Churchill Reserve. Unfortunately, it has been a sandwich shop for the past two years since the wine merchant that once resided there closed down.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Can someone tell me if I need to do anything other than bring a bottle of the year of my birth (or thereabouts in my case) as I know nothing of this ruby reserve exercise other than what I have read...which makes no sense to me hence this post 

Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Has the venue been booked?
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Can we assume that it has been booked:?:DRT wrote:It is time to decide what to do.
My proposal is:
Date: Thursday 29th March 2012
Venue: The Bung Hole, London
Theme!Objections?
- Amuse-bouche: The Great International Ruby Reserve Taste-off.
- Entrée: Beer break.
- Plat principal: Bring a Port to Drink on Your Birthday.
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Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Not after Monday!Cookie wrote:Can we assume that it has been booked:?:
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Julian?AHB wrote:Not after Monday!Cookie wrote:Can we assume that it has been booked:?:
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
I don’t recall booking it. Somebody cope by phone I won’t have an opportunity for most of a week.Cookie wrote:Can we assume that it has been booked:?:
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
I remember you telling me you had booked, and that you had left both names. Was I dreaming?jdaw1 wrote:I don’t recall booking it. Somebody cope by phone I won’t have an opportunity for most of a week.Cookie wrote:Can we assume that it has been booked:?:
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
No recollection. Please cope.DRT wrote:I remember you telling me you had booked, and that you had left both names. Was I dreaming?
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
I have spoken to Jonathan and he confirmed that we had NOT booked this date....I have now...we have the room but will have to dine in there as well as there is another function in the main dining room...happy days 

Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Thanks, Cookie, very much appreciated.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
jdaw1 wrote:Please cope.
Cookie coped.Cookie wrote:I have now
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Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
I'm very sorry about this but I'd forgotten that my name was on the list for this tasting and I'm afraid I'm going to be away that week. Could my name be removed, with apologies for the list? Thanks.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Cookie (or Tom):Cookie wrote:Can someone tell me if I need to do anything other than bring a bottle of the year of my birth (or thereabouts in my case) as I know nothing of this ruby reserve exercise other than what I have read...which makes no sense to me hence this post
Are you willing to put The Port Society Reserve up in a blind test against Noval Black, Fonseca Terra Prima, Graham Six Grapes, Ramos Pinto Collector, de la Rosa Finest Reserve and Cockburn Special Reserve?
If so, please bring a bottle of that!
Rob C.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Tom will be attending in your place.JacobH wrote:I'm very sorry about this but I'd forgotten that my name was on the list for this tasting and I'm afraid I'm going to be away that week. Could my name be removed, with apologies for the list? Thanks.
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Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Confirm..
..now what was theme again? - this is a long thread to read through..!
..now what was theme again? - this is a long thread to read through..!
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
No one objected, so that is the theme.DRT wrote:It is time to decide what to do.
My proposal is:
Date: Thursday 29th March 2012
Venue: The Bung Hole, London
Theme!Objections?
- Amuse-bouche: The Great International Ruby Reserve Taste-off.
- Entrée: Beer break.
- Plat principal: Bring a Port to Drink on Your Birthday.
Everyone to bring "A Port to Drink on Your Birthday".
For the Ruby Reserve Taste-off I have Graham's Six Grapes and Cookie has agreed to throw in a Port Society Ruby Reserve. We need to find these: Noval Black, de la Rosa Ruby Reserve, Cockburn Special Reserve, Ramos Pinto Collector and Fonseca Tera Prima.
Does anyone know where to find these? If you can be helpful by going out and buying one please do so and post here to confirm what you have.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Derek - I have already purchased the de la Rosa, Noval Black and Terra Prima. Are you sure you did not buy the RP already (from Penistone wine cellars)?
Is it confusing to have two threads for the same event (even if they are two separate tastings!)?
Is it confusing to have two threads for the same event (even if they are two separate tastings!)?
Rob C.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Fantastic! Thank you.RAYC wrote:Derek - I have already purchased the de la Rosa, Noval Black and Terra Prima.
Oops! I forgot to go there. Will pick one up at the weekend.RAYC wrote:Are you sure you did not buy the RP already (from Penistone wine cellars)?
Should I lock the other thread and divert people here?RAYC wrote:Is it confusing to have two threads for the same event (even if they are two separate tastings!)?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Cookie sent me a tet to confirm that he has the Cockburn Special Reserve.
We now have 6 ruby reserves. If we can find the R-PC it will be a bonus, but we have enough to meet the minimum standard.
We now have 6 ruby reserves. If we can find the R-PC it will be a bonus, but we have enough to meet the minimum standard.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
At the risk of being pedantic, which CkSR?DRT wrote:Cookie sent me a tet to confirm that he has the Cockburn Special Reserve.
We now have 6 ruby reserves. If we can find the R-PC it will be a bonus, but we have enough to meet the minimum standard.
This one or this one?
And do we want both...?
Rob C.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Cookie to confirm which one.RAYC wrote:At the risk of being pedantic, which CkSR?DRT wrote:Cookie sent me a tet to confirm that he has the Cockburn Special Reserve.
We now have 6 ruby reserves. If we can find the R-PC it will be a bonus, but we have enough to meet the minimum standard.
This one or this one?
And do we want both...?
I think we should only have the new one.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
The intrepid Cookie has secured a Ramos-Pinto Collector. We have a full house!
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
We have the new one.DRT wrote:Cookie to confirm which one.RAYC wrote:At the risk of being pedantic, which CkSR?DRT wrote:Cookie sent me a tet to confirm that he has the Cockburn Special Reserve.
We now have 6 ruby reserves. If we can find the R-PC it will be a bonus, but we have enough to meet the minimum standard.
This one or this one?
And do we want both...?
I think we should only have the new one.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
First post updated.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Have another go....you are nearly right..blessDRT wrote:First post updated.

Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Cookie wrote:Have another go....you are nearly right..blessDRT wrote:First post updated.

"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Breaking News: The Yanks had nine in Seattle last night. Are we content with seven?DRT wrote:
- Amuse-bouche: The Great International Ruby Reserve Taste-off, comprising!
- Cockburn Special Reserve (RLC)
- Fonseca Tera Prima (RAYC)
- Graham's Six Grapes (DRT)
- Noval Black (RAYC)
- Ramos-Pinto Collector (RLC)
- Quinta de la Rosa Reserve (RAYC)
- The Port Society Ruby Reserve (RLC)
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
I'm about to go to Tesco. And Waitrose is a minute walk from my house. I'll see what else there is!
Rob C.
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Placemats, or first drafts thereof, will be made Sunday evening. Is the first post sufficiently up to date that it can be used for this purpose?
We are not competing with our American friends.DRT wrote:Breaking News: The Yanks had nine in Seattle last night. Are we content with seven?
Re: Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
With very interesting results, too. Neither or our winners (there was a tie) is on your list!DRT wrote:Breaking News: The Yanks had nine in Seattle last night. Are we content with seven?DRT wrote:
- Amuse-bouche: The Great International Ruby Reserve Taste-off, comprising!
- Cockburn Special Reserve (RLC)
- Fonseca Tera Prima (RAYC)
- Graham's Six Grapes (DRT)
- Noval Black (RAYC)
- Ramos-Pinto Collector (RLC)
- Quinta de la Rosa Reserve (RAYC)
- The Port Society Ruby Reserve (RLC)
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Glenn Elliott
Re: Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
Glenn E. wrote:With very interesting results, too. Neither or our winners (there was a tie) is on your list!

"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: The Birthday Boys' Tasting, London - 29 Mar 2012
On the plus side, you do have all three of the Ports that tied for 4th. 

Glenn Elliott